The Point of No Return

[AutomaticSlim]

@Schecter42

"it was easier for her to do this kind of work if she pretended to be more involved with the person she was with. Not sure I am even clear on what she meant. "

- What she is saying is that it is easier for her to do the sessions if she puts herself into a positive mindset about the guy she is seeing. This is the same thing as an actress getting into her role.


"From what I can gather, she likely didn't think of me once during the time she was away."

- They only "think" about us when:

1) Business is slow and she wants to see her regulars
2) They would rather see a regular than some unknown guy (there is the possibility of the unknown being "rough" or "a creep" or "a slob")
3) They want an extended session due to (2)

Regarding these points, they think these things of guys who are their "good clients". There is nothing wrong with this. Good clients very often get preferred service. Speaking for myself, I like being considered a good client. But that's all it is -- business. Always have to remember that.

 

[Zuckerman]

Long-time lurker, first-time poster

Dude, I had a dream I was playing against you, and I had a pretty solid position, but then you sacced your queen to get a knight on f5. Having studied your games, I know that once you get your knight onto f5 it’s hopeless to resist. Then I saw you smirk. I woke up shaking and in a deep sweat.

 

[Zuckerman]

Long-time lurker, first-time poster

Visited an NYC spa girl in the ballpark of three dozen times over the last 1.5 yrs and we've moved our play outside the spa.

On several occasions she has signaled to me her desire to leave the spa life behind, and I've pretty much acted like I didn't catch on to what she was getting at.

She's very well-known and has a banging body, who in my estimation, shouldn't have any difficulty landing some wealthy dope to give her her heart's desire.

I’ve posted about this before. I used to see this spectacularly beautiful Russian indie. She had a gorgeous face that looked like a certain British actress and skinny model’s body with natural double Ds. I really liked her and the sex was great. I became friendly on one of these forums with a guy who fell head over heels in love with her, and he left his wife for her, and basically bought her out of the business. They are still together and both are still super happy.

i would guess that this doesn’t usually happen, that it usually turns out badly or even catastrophically. That said, I’m a romantic and I believe that people really do fall in love. The one thing I would most look out for is any dishonesty. Lying is a huge red flag.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

 

[Eforel]

I’ve posted about this before. I used to see this spectacularly beautiful Russian indie. She had a gorgeous face that looked like a certain British actress and skinny model’s body with natural double Ds. I really liked her and the sex was great. I became friendly on one of these forums with a guy who fell head over heels in love with her, and he left his wife for her, and basically bought her out of the business. They are still together and both are still super happy.

i would guess that this doesn’t usually happen, that it usually turns out badly or even catastrophically. That said, I’m a romantic and I believe that people really do fall in love. The one thing I would most look out for is any dishonesty. Lying is a huge red flag.

Good luck and let us know how it turns out.

WOW!

 

[srowe]

Checkmate!

There's a strain of being sensitive to her situation and wanting to play the hero to this damsel in distress and partly out of curiosity, but I'm coming at this from the wrong place. I'm gonna let it play out for a bit longer but will b ready to blow the lid off the cockpit if my heart is compromised.

Good luck to you, hope it works out for both you and the chick. I think if you keep it business like it works out better for everyone. Emotions + business = bad decisions (most of the time)

 

[rigandine]

Any woman that has taken thousands of cocks should be avoided at all costs.

They are incapable of making moral decisions.

Entering a relationship with these women is like buying a rolls Royce for 80k that has 200k miles on it. It sounds like a deal until there's a problem and fixing it costs alot of money.

These girls are nasty and used to making close to six figures.

In the civilian sector people don't like moving down tax brackets. Neither do these girls.

Yeah it works out for some guys. Some guys also make it to the nba, while most don't. Be smart.

 

[Schecter42]

I started seeing a popular provider last year. This provider is very very experienced and I'm sure she has broken many hearts. She became my ATF, and I travelled over 2 hours each way to see her. We had great sex like you mentioned and she seemed really into it. She said things like I like your smile and you're sexy, but basically stuff I figured she said to everybody.
I fell in love with her and on around the 9th time I saw her, I told her I loved her. This was the first time I said this to a woman in a very long time and it was difficult to do.
The next week, she tells me out of the blue that she loves my smile. Then, as we are cuddling at the very end of the session, I tell her she's perfect. She says "so are you". I say what do you mean by that and she says she's talking about my body. Then the session ended. Keep in mind she knew that I loved her and that I was traveling far to see her.
After that session, I had all intensions to tell her the next weekend that I would take her out of the business. A few days later, the spa closed however and I didn't have her contact info.
I was basically left hanging. I actually was not even sure she would be coming back to work. I had no way of contacting her, but she did have a way to contact me if she wanted to. I assumed she was well aware how I felt about her and I actually thought she would contact me. She didn't. That she didn't really crushed me and it caused me massive hurt. I got really depressed. I thought about her every day.
When she returned I went to see her. I think I had lost some of my feelings for her by this time just because I waited so long and didn't even know if I would see her again. I was a little distant. She was very friendly as usual but she didn't seem to have any understanding of the situation. Funny thing is, she tells me at this session that she really likes my smile. I'm thinking WTF. Anyway, I didn't bring up the previous years last session.
The next week I confronted her. I asked her if she would go out with me and she said she doesn't date people while she works in the spa. I asked her why she paid me those compliments and she didn't say anything. I asked her if she wasn't working in a spa, would she go out with me. She didn't answer. I asked her again about the things she said to me, and I got the answer that it was easier for her to do this kind of work if she pretended to be more involved with the person she was with. Not sure I am even clear on what she meant.
From what I can gather, she likely didn't think of me once during the time she was away.

Forgot to mention in the previous post that she was away for about a year.

 

[srowe]

Forgot to mention in the previous post that she was away for about a year.

Yea i was curious how long. are you still seeing her or moved on?

 

[Schecter42]

I'm over her. I have no illusions about being with her. I might try to see her in a few months if I'm in the area. My mind is stronger than my heart.

 

[jrothberg]

Lots of wisdom here. I will just note, for those who talk about how messed up most of these girls are, that we are in the same boat as mongers.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

Lots of wisdom here. I will just note, for those who talk about how messed up most of these girls are, that we are in the same boat as mongers.

I will speak for myself here.
I agree with you.
I am damaged as f*ck.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Lots of wisdom here. I will just note, for those who talk about how messed up most of these girls are, that we are in the same boat as mongers.

It depends how much you hobby. How much of your income you devote to this. How long you've been doing this. Myself I've been hobbying for 8 yrs and have taken 3 hiatuses one for over a yr one for about a yr and one recently for 9 mos. I don't go crazy spending wise either. I've always balanced regular non pros into the mix.

 

[Kinosellis]

I've known a number of extremely popular providers that left and found relationships with hobbyists. It happens, unlikely but it does happen. More often than not, its not going to work out well for anyone. I know a few hobbyists that dated girls and the girls were basically cheated. Aka the guy was abusive, used her money or something else thats bad. I know that its common for guys here to tell stories where they're screwed. But, it goes both ways I've known enough girls and stories to know that no one should be dating on either side. The girls get cheated by guys as often as the other way around.

 

[Eforel]

The girls are fucked up, hobbyists are fucked up.... We're all doomed.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

The girls are fucked up, hobbyists are fucked up.... We're all doomed.

 

[Rogermoore]

This thread has been enlightening and has offered some clarity for me....I am going to try an fuck my girl one last time bare back....and then call it quits with her. That will remedy my mental and emotional state for sure.

 

[Schecter42]

I've known a number of extremely popular providers that left and found relationships with hobbyists. It happens, unlikely but it does happen. More often than not, its not going to work out well for anyone. I know a few hobbyists that dated girls and the girls were basically cheated. Aka the guy was abusive, used her money or something else thats bad. I know that its common for guys here to tell stories where they're screwed. But, it goes both ways I've known enough girls and stories to know that no one should be dating on either side. The girls get cheated by guys as often as the other way around.

Any idea whether these providers have normal or good sex lives after they leave the business? Providers who worked for a number of years will have had thousands of customers. It would seem that a significant number of these would be with guys they found repulsive. I would think these experience would likely have a very negative impact on their future sex lives, but I am not sure.

 

[Eforel]

Any idea whether these providers have normal or good sex lives after they leave the business? Providers who worked for a number of years will have had thousands of customers. It would seem that a significant number of these would be with guys they found repulsive. I would think these experience would likely have a very negative impact on their future sex lives, but I am not sure.

I've often wondered the very same thing!
After so many hours per day of dick (undoubtedly = thousands) over many years... seems they would be pretty desensitized, both physically and emotionally speaking.

 

[Daveinqueens]

Always be whores.

 

[Bricktop]

Long-time lurker, first-time poster

Visited an NYC spa girl in the ballpark of three dozen times over the last 1.5 yrs and we've moved our play outside the spa.

On several occasions she has signaled to me her desire to leave the spa life behind, and I've pretty much acted like I didn't catch on to what she was getting at.

She's very well-known and has a banging body, who in my estimation, shouldn't have any difficulty landing some wealthy dope to give her her heart's desire.

I've read the advice throughout this forum, warnings not to get involved with spa girls.

I've toed the line and although my better senses tells me its a bad idea, my curiosity is pulling me closer to trying for a relationship with her.

I guess my questions are:

• In times where you were presented with the opportunity to take things to the next level with a spa girl, how did you go about weighing the pros and cons?
• Have you ever went cold turkey and completely stopped seeing a spa girl that you realized you were getting in too deep with?
• Were there any repercussions to turning down a spa girl who had committed more and more of her time/ energy to you? (Keeping in mind that the spa girl in question knows intimate details about your personal life)
• How would you react if a spa girl made blatant comments about getting her pregnant? (Whether it be by your consent or without your consent)

Next level? There is no next level. Get a grip man!