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Standards and/or lack there of

Srhsrh

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TBH I've done it.
Not all the time, obviously, but I have paid that rate and even slightly higher, occasionally, for legit 10s.
Haven't done it in almost 2 years, though.
I've done it too. And thought it was totally worth the money sometimes. Sometimes not. There can be a huge gulf between the best girls and the average ones. Its the same as everything. If you get arrested, and you can afford it (Like Kraft) you buy the $5000 dollar an hour legal team, not the 150 an hour ones. I drive a nice car, not a shitbox for the same reason. If you're happy dumping that seed into a Ford Escort of an Escort, go ahead. I think I can tell the difference, and sometimes I'm very willing to pay for it. A lot of times, its a reward for some hard work.
 

dbiz2

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SHEEEETTTT!! I NEVER provide personal info to a AMP provider. Now when I've done mongering in Toronto or Montreal and the escort does an outcall to my hotel, I'm verifiable because I need to give my room number (always stay at 4 star, and an occasional 5 star hotel during the off peak tourist period). I've shown my passport upon the escort's arrival but that's it. Communication is normally via e-mail or text on my burner phone.
And it works for me.
 

AutomaticSlim

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I've done it too. And thought it was totally worth the money sometimes. Sometimes not. There can be a huge gulf between the best girls and the average ones. Its the same as everything. If you get arrested, and you can afford it (Like Kraft) you buy the $5000 dollar an hour legal team, not the 150 an hour ones. I drive a nice car, not a shitbox for the same reason. If you're happy dumping that seed into a Ford Escort of an Escort, go ahead. I think I can tell the difference, and sometimes I'm very willing to pay for it. A lot of times, its a reward for some hard work.
One of the girls...from LA, who I've mentioned here more than once...was absolutely one of the best I've had in my life.
She's moved on, God bless her. I met her at 23.
And now, at 26, she's actually been on the cover of magazines.
Including an International version of Playboy.
It was worth it.
 

Jackboner

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I don’t think I ever had a 10. Maybe a solid 8.5- 9.0. Who can tell the difference?
some of the best sessions were with enthusiastic 7’s. Nice all around, maybe some belly fat and the occasional C section scar. But that’s life.
 

cool313

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Well I've done it for a few girls who I think are worth the risk, and I don't think I'm an idiot. I just care about quality more than the pump and dumper morons, that waste their money and only get half the value for their money.

It's a free world, I could point out all the crap other guys do that hurts the business. It's sounding just like the panty wearing boys who whine about other guys overtipping.
Sure, do whatever you want. But girls only ask for this stuff because guys like you are willing to give it. In every part of the world I've been to where sex work is more mainstream (UK, HK, Japan, etc), nobody will ever ask for this stuff from a client, but they WILL go head over heels to provide you verification that the girl you are paying for is the girl in the pictures. This is how it is supposed to work.

Clients are the customers and are paying the money. There are other ways to ensure safety rather than making somebody send you sensitive personal information. Beyond that, sending a "blacked out" ID provides literally no value, as they can't run a LE or criminal history check on you on that basis. All you're doing in that case is sending a criminal selfies.

The girl is not going to trust you with a photo of her ID, her legal name, or her LinkedIn profile. Why would you trust her with yours? Would you send a verification photo to a drug dealer? No? Then why would you send it to a prostitute? Would you believe a drug dealer if he said he deleted your photos? No? So, why do you believe a prostitute?
 

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Sure, do whatever you want. But girls only ask for this stuff because guys like you are willing to give it. In every part of the world I've been to where sex work is more mainstream (UK, HK, Japan, etc), nobody will ever ask for this stuff from a client, but they WILL go head over heels to provide you verification that the girl you are paying for is the girl in the pictures. This is how it is supposed to work.

Clients are the customers and are paying the money. There are other ways to ensure safety rather than making somebody send you sensitive personal information. Beyond that, sending a "blacked out" ID provides literally no value, as they can't run a LE or criminal history check on you on that basis. All you're doing in that case is sending a criminal selfies.

The girl is not going to trust you with a photo of her ID, her legal name, or her LinkedIn profile. Why would you trust her with yours? Would you send a verification photo to a drug dealer? No? Then why would you send it to a prostitute? Would you believe a drug dealer if he said he deleted your photos? No? So, why do you believe a prostitute?
What's to believe?
I don't care.
No wife. No kids. No family.
I have nothing to lose.
Don't care who knows my real name.
I understand where you're coming from. I really do.
But your restrictions do not apply to all of us.
 

AutomaticSlim

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I don’t think I ever had a 10. Maybe a solid 8.5- 9.0. Who can tell the difference?
some of the best sessions were with enthusiastic 7’s. Nice all around, maybe some belly fat and the occasional C section scar. But that’s life.
I've had 10s. Legit 10s.
Maybe 8 or 9 of them.
That's about it, by my standards.
3 or 4 have been among the best I've had in my life.
But I will admit, as I have said here before.
I would take my #1 all time ATF over ALL OF THEM. Every single one.
She was a 1000/10 to me.
RIP my angel.
 

Srhsrh

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One of the girls...from LA, who I've mentioned here more than once...was absolutely one of the best I've had in my life.
She's moved on, God bless her. I met her at 23.
And now, at 26, she's actually been on the cover of magazines.
Including an International version of Playboy.
It was worth it.
My best was this girl in HK. I’d gotten her as a thank you from a customer for a good job, and the next time I was in town I contacted her, not knowing the price. I probably wouldn’t have done it, had I not been with her before. She was a dinner and overnight kinda girl and it was significant money. I was lucky she took credit cards. Even so I’d do it again, but she got married to some rich Chinese guy.
 

cool313

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What's to believe?
I don't care.
No wife. No kids. No family.
I have nothing to lose.
Don't care who knows my real name.
I understand where you're coming from. I really do.
But your restrictions do not apply to all of us.
Like I said, do whatever you want. All I'm saying is you don't have to.

My provider visits are in the triple digits and there are only two times I can think of where a provider ultimately refused because I wouldn't provide personal info. At the end of the day, references work just fine and anybody asking for more should be viewed with suspicion. They don't want your personal info for their own safety - in most cases they want it as an insurance policy at your expense.

By the way, even if you have no family or career you care about protecting, you place yourself at legal and arguably safety risk by sending personal information to criminals.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Like I said, do whatever you want. All I'm saying is you don't have to.

My provider visits are in the triple digits and there are only two times I can think of where a provider ultimately refused because I wouldn't provide personal info. At the end of the day, references work just fine and anybody asking for more should be viewed with suspicion. They don't want your personal info for their own safety - in most cases they want it as an insurance policy at your expense.

By the way, even if you have no family or career you care about protecting, you place yourself at legal and arguably safety risk by sending personal information to criminals.
I accept my risks.
My provider visits are well, well, well into 4 digits.
And hey, I'm still standing.

 

dbiz2

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Sure, do whatever you want. But girls only ask for this stuff because guys like you are willing to give it. In every part of the world I've been to where sex work is more mainstream (UK, HK, Japan, etc), nobody will ever ask for this stuff from a client, but they WILL go head over heels to provide you verification that the girl you are paying for is the girl in the pictures. This is how it is supposed to work.

Clients are the customers and are paying the money. There are other ways to ensure safety rather than making somebody send you sensitive personal information. Beyond that, sending a "blacked out" ID provides literally no value, as they can't run a LE or criminal history check on you on that basis. All you're doing in that case is sending a criminal selfies.

The girl is not going to trust you with a photo of her ID, her legal name, or her LinkedIn profile. Why would you trust her with yours? Would you send a verification photo to a drug dealer? No? Then why would you send it to a prostitute? Would you believe a drug dealer if he said he deleted your photos? No? So, why do you believe a prostitute?
Gotta a real fuckin small world story. I was bonking this very freaky escort (real Greek trooper). After the deed was finished, we started talking, and I was bitching about a former bank I had been a customer. She got quiet and asked the name. I told her. She said, "that's where I remember you from!" She proceeded to say she'd been a teller at that bank branch approximately 3 years. She said I came in with my daughter, who was 3 years old at the time--even describing a summer dress she would wear.
There must have been a serious look of panic on my face. She laughed and told me to relax. I wasn't married when I met this gal but nonetheless I was still shocked at the probability of such an event happening.
 

Srhsrh

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What's to believe?
I don't care.
No wife. No kids. No family.
I have nothing to lose.
Don't care who knows my real name.
I understand where you're coming from. I really do.
But your restrictions do not apply to all of us.
I was gonna say same thing, but about money. No wife, no kids, no mortgage, no alimony, no car loans, no other major financial drains and a decent job means I can chase the a different kind of girl for my hobby when I’m in the mood. Not bragging, just saying everyone’s situation is different.
 

AutomaticSlim

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I was gonna say same thing, but about money. No wife, no kids, no mortgage, no alimony, no car loans, no other major financial drains and a decent job means I can chase the a different kind of girl for my hobby when I’m in the mood. Not bragging, just saying everyone’s situation is different.
This is weird. We are in agreement on too many things lately.

What I will say is that the "married guy perspective" is very heavy here.
They need to open their minds a bit. Just IMO.
 

TGBeldin

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Interesting thread.

Several women know my real info, but only once have I used it for screening. The others have gotten it over time, just like I've gotten theirs. After I trust them, I feel safer if they have my info. Medical things happen-and have happened-on overnights and on trips.

The clients don't "make" this business. The women don't either. It's a free market in that regard. And when LE, pimps, and politicians don't mess with it, it actually works well. Can't afford a woman's rate? See someone else. She charges too much? Her business will fail.
 
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