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Standards and/or lack there of

Jackboner

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In some cases, I’ve had to in order to get screened for a session. One of the best California indies I used, had this standard thing where every time you tried to book, she wanted a single photo that included the cash fanned, your license, and a third random object that varied, like a bar of soap. No photo, no service. She was too nervous about guys. A tiny girl, 4’ 11” and 85 pounds.
She’s in the wrong business.
 

Srhsrh

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She’s in the wrong business.
Her rules. She's very popular. If you don't like the rules, pick someone else.

I don't really care, as long as she removes the photo from her phone, which she does when we meet.

She's just an example anyway. There's plenty of Indies that ask for ID.
 

ALXC38

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I'm not sure if it's just my luck, but it seems like every time I try a new amp, or indy, based on a few recent positive reviews. I end up walking right into a shit-show.

I know one person's trash is another person's treasure. But when some dude comment about a provider being gorgeous, and then when I show up, she's missing teeth, then who the hell am I supposed to believe.

I'm not going to bash or ruin the providers livelihood by giving her a shit review. But maybe we all need to come up with some secret hand signals or something to warn others about the dangers that lurk ahead?

Or better yet, should I just write a simple little app for us mongers, that lets us "hot or not" a bunch of women, tranies, golden girls, methheads, bar flies, and Jersey housewives. Then based on those results we can determine if your idea of sexy is the same as mine.

Thoughts?

Could still be gorgeous and not have the best teeth ! Many providers are very attractive but will often have some other cosmetic issues that lie down under. Dental issues are common among many Asian providers. Lack of having dental or any other kind of good medical coverage forces them to pay most freight out of there own pocket.
Local free clinics are the extent of what most have available.
I get your point though. I have seen some posts that get a bit descriptive on those features but could be viewed as being too critical.
 

East Lake II

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Sometimes the shit show is a result of the conflict and drama of the moment and the MMSs inability to reign it all in. In which case the one you are with is as much a victim of the circumstances as you are. The big difference is, she collects the cash and you are the one out the cash. Shit shows don’t benefit anyone, and ultimately all lose.
 

East Lake II

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Most agencies require some form of proof of identity.

However, a recent venture I had with an Indy. I didn't provide any personal info, she just wanted my Handle on the site I used. However, I probably still won't post a negative review, because who knows if she didnt get my license plate when I drove off.

Which is lame because she came with amazing reviews, and when I walked up to the door, she was more like this... But with really bright makeup on.

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“However, I probably still won't post a negative review, because who knows if she didnt get my license plate when I drove off.”

I guess that’s a good as reason as any not to post a negative review.

Another reason might be, it’s over and the monger just wants to move on. Writing it up means you have to relive it. Who wants to do that?

Another reason, you have been to the spa over 100x, all visits have been good and you see a newly arrived “young beautiful” provider and the minute you see her you feel the vibe is not good. You could change but you go ahead abs make the most of it and it’s OK, but when is just OK not OK? When you are spending money and time in a spa and there is someone else you could see.
 

dbiz2

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I'm not sure if it's just my luck, but it seems like every time I try a new amp, or indy, based on a few recent positive reviews. I end up walking right into a shit-show.

I know one person's trash is another person's treasure. But when some dude comment about a provider being gorgeous, and then when I show up, she's missing teeth, then who the hell am I supposed to believe.

I'm not going to bash or ruin the providers livelihood by giving her a shit review. But maybe we all need to come up with some secret hand signals or something to warn others about the dangers that lurk ahead?

Or better yet, should I just write a simple little app for us mongers, that lets us "hot or not" a bunch of women, tranies, golden girls, methheads, bar flies, and Jersey housewives. Then based on those results we can determine if your idea of sexy is the same as mine.

Thoughts?
It gets down to mongers giving honest reviews, something a tad foreign to those giving false reviews.
 

Thumper

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In my eyes, all women are beautiful. My standards are more open then anyone I have ever crossed on the internet. Do not follow me into the bowels of hell.
Some of my best sessions were with some of the least attractive women.
Let me put it this way. If the only issue were her looks, I would agree with you. I can see beyond just looks. But this last experience was a smorgasbord of awful.

To paint a picture, I'm not a smoker, and I like nice clean things, my house, cars are typically spotless. So if I walk into a room that probably hasn't seen a duster since the 90's, reaks of smoke and cats. That's a big turn off for me. That being said, there are plenty of guys that would be ok with that. Hence... Standards vary greatly
 

charliebrown

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Let me put it this way. If the only issue were her looks, I would agree with you. I can see beyond just looks. But this last experience was a smorgasbord of awful.

To paint a picture, I'm not a smoker, and I like nice clean things, my house, cars are typically spotless. So if I walk into a room that probably hasn't seen a duster since the 90's, reaks of smoke and cats. That's a big turn off for me. That being said, there are plenty of guys that would be ok with that. Hence... Standards vary greatly
Your original post focused on looks. If you are expanding the experience then I would agree with you. If you walk into a spa and you are stimulated with all 5 senses in a positive manner, you will leave in a wonderful state. Any one of the senses gets disturbed, then you are in deep trouble.

I went to a spa last night and the smell was horrible. If I had not been here before, I would have turned around and walked out. Since the four other senses were taken care of in spades, I managed to fight thru the smell.
 

RickeyRomance

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I'm not sure if it's just my luck, but it seems like every time I try a new amp, or indy, based on a few recent positive reviews. I end up walking right into a shit-show.

I know one person's trash is another person's treasure. But when some dude comment about a provider being gorgeous, and then when I show up, she's missing teeth, then who the hell am I supposed to believe.

I'm not going to bash or ruin the providers livelihood by giving her a shit review. But maybe we all need to come up with some secret hand signals or something to warn others about the dangers that lurk ahead?

Or better yet, should I just write a simple little app for us mongers, that lets us "hot or not" a bunch of women, tranies, golden girls, methheads, bar flies, and Jersey housewives. Then based on those results we can determine if your idea of sexy is the same as mine.

Thoughts?
I've now officially turned to the types of AMPs where the providers are outside trying to drum up business because of the very experiences you just mentioned. Show up to a place and out comes someone's grandmother and I'm too nice of a guy to turn tail and run. This way, I don't even go near if I'm not FULLY attracted. If I'm paying money, I need to be attracted. That's base level and she and I can talk skills then.
 

bronzeharbor

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Generally, you'll get exaggerated reports from most mongers because they tend to be older than the mid 30s providers. I'd keep an eye out for more reputable reviewers.
I can confidently say that some of these super hyped girls on this forum won't actually live up to your expectations appearance wise.
Also the white folk can't gauge the Asian age too well
 

Uniquelyme

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I'm not sure if it's just my luck, but it seems like every time I try a new amp, or indy, based on a few recent positive reviews. I end up walking right into a shit-show.

I know one person's trash is another person's treasure. But when some dude comment about a provider being gorgeous, and then when I show up, she's missing teeth, then who the hell am I supposed to believe.

I'm not going to bash or ruin the providers livelihood by giving her a shit review. But maybe we all need to come up with some secret hand signals or something to warn others about the dangers that lurk ahead?

Or better yet, should I just write a simple little app for us mongers, that lets us "hot or not" a bunch of women, tranies, golden girls, methheads, bar flies, and Jersey housewives. Then based on those results we can determine if your idea of sexy is the same as mine.

Thoughts?
Write about how you were duped. How she isnt what was described. Session was subpar.

Those reviews need to see the light. She chose to provide and this is a review site/forum.
 

cool313

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So on the "Indy based" boards, there are a few reasons not to give bad reviews, and also reasons for when and why you should.

1) They often have dirt on you. When it comes to AMPs, none of them know who Thumper is. But most Indy's ask for your real name, a photo, references, and board names. If no refs are available, they may ask for proof of identity like LinkedIn Profile, or work email. So I am not going to risk posting a bad review, only to have some psycho chick show up at my office, or start sending emails to my CEO.

2) Just because I don't find the provider attractive, doesn't mean that all other men won't as well. And my idea of clean, might not match someone else's. So why should I cost her business because I prefer my providers to be younger than my parents? This poor chick flips tricks for a Living, why should I make life any harder then it already is.

When to absolutely post negative reviews about Indy's ...

1) She gives you an std.
2) Vomits on your arm (this recently happened to me at an amp)
3) You get robbed, attacked, etc...
4) Services not as advertised
5) Chick was a dude

You get my point

Now AMPs are a little different, I don't mind posting truthful experiences, because it helps the hobby. And let's face it, the MMS could give 2-shits.


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In some cases, I’ve had to in order to get screened for a session. One of the best California indies I used, had this standard thing where every time you tried to book, she wanted a single photo that included the cash fanned, your license, and a third random object that varied, like a bar of soap. No photo, no service. She was too nervous about guys. A tiny girl, 4’ 11” and 85 pounds.
Lol, anybody who actually does this to humor a provider deserves the repercussions. I wouldn't send a pic of my driver's license to the guy bringing me pizza delivery. Do you think a girl selling her body for cash is going to be more responsible? Yikes x1000.

Mongers make this market, not the providers. There are plenty of reasonable (and hot, and affordable) providers who will accept references and leave it at that. If they want to find suckers who will send deposits, personal info, etc they can go for it but you all should only understand that providers ask for this shit because idiots will actually do it and not move on to another hot chick who isn't nuts. This behavior doesn't do any of us any favors.
 

Koujiao

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I've now officially turned to the types of AMPs where the providers are outside trying to drum up business because of the very experiences you just mentioned. Show up to a place and out comes someone's grandmother and I'm too nice of a guy to turn tail and run. This way, I don't even go near if I'm not FULLY attracted. If I'm paying money, I need to be attracted. That's base level and she and I can talk skills then.

You could actually do a fly over with a drone while having a snack, never get up if you don't see what you like, and if someone appears interesting, dive in and give her your number to call.
 

Thumper

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Lol, anybody who actually does this to humor a provider deserves the repercussions. I wouldn't send a pic of my driver's license to the guy bringing me pizza delivery. Do you think a girl selling her body for cash is going to be more responsible? Yikes x1000.

Mongers make this market, not the providers. There are plenty of reasonable (and hot, and affordable) providers who will accept references and leave it at that. If they want to find suckers who will send deposits, personal info, etc they can go for it but you all should only understand that providers ask for this shit because idiots will actually do it and not move on to another hot chick who isn't nuts. This behavior doesn't do any of us any favors.
To be clear.. I've only used my ID twice, and all my vital info was blacked out and they were both agencies. This was only so I could build up references. Most Indy's only care about references.

That being said, I'm not dumb enough to think they couldn't use that against me if they wanted to. But that is the same blind-faith I have with AMPs and their hidden cams lol
 

Srhsrh

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Lol, anybody who actually does this to humor a provider deserves the repercussions. I wouldn't send a pic of my driver's license to the guy bringing me pizza delivery. Do you think a girl selling her body for cash is going to be more responsible? Yikes x1000.

Mongers make this market, not the providers. There are plenty of reasonable (and hot, and affordable) providers who will accept references and leave it at that. If they want to find suckers who will send deposits, personal info, etc they can go for it but you all should only understand that providers ask for this shit because idiots will actually do it and not move on to another hot chick who isn't nuts. This behavior doesn't do any of us any favors.
Well I've done it for a few girls who I think are worth the risk, and I don't think I'm an idiot. I just care about quality more than the pump and dumper morons, that waste their money and only get half the value for their money.

It's a free world, I could point out all the crap other guys do that hurts the business. It's sounding just like the panty wearing boys who whine about other guys overtipping.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Well I've done it for a few girls who I think are worth the risk, and I don't think I'm an idiot. I just care about quality more than the pump and dumper morons, that waste their money and only get half the value for their money.

It's a free world, I could point out all the crap other guys do that hurts the business. It's sounding just like the panty wearing boys who whine about other guys overtipping.
Hey....I guess this is something else you and I can agree on...
Cripes!
End of days are upon us!
 

Jackboner

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Lol, anybody who actually does this to humor a provider deserves the repercussions. I wouldn't send a pic of my driver's license to the guy bringing me pizza delivery. Do you think a girl selling her body for cash is going to be more responsible? Yikes x1000.

Mongers make this market, not the providers. There are plenty of reasonable (and hot, and affordable) providers who will accept references and leave it at that. If they want to find suckers who will send deposits, personal info, etc they can go for it but you all should only understand that providers ask for this shit because idiots will actually do it and not move on to another hot chick who isn't nuts. This behavior doesn't do any of us any favors.
Mongers do make the market. If certain type whores advertise for $800 an hour and mongers pay it then that’s the market rate. Me personally, I think it’s a lot of money to spend for an hour on a woman’s body
 

AutomaticSlim

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Mongers do make the market. If certain type whores advertise for $800 an hour and mongers pay it then that’s the market rate. Me personally, I think it’s a lot of money to spend for an hour on a woman’s body
TBH I've done it.
Not all the time, obviously, but I have paid that rate and even slightly higher, occasionally, for legit 10s.
Haven't done it in almost 2 years, though.
 
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