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Sneak & Peak Warrants

njlefty

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Tactic Reserved For Terrorists Now Used On Sex Workers and Their Clients

A central component of the recent investigation into Chinese massage-parlor sex was the secret installation of hidden cameras at the Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida.

Now defense attorneys are challenging the legality of this move. On February 25, the law firm Kibbey Wagner filed paperwork in Martin and Palm Beach counties seeking an emergency declaratory judgment that police may not release images, audio, or video obtained from the secret cameras.

Permission for such surveillance stems from a provision of the PATRIOT ACT that was passed with promises only to use the power against possible terrorists.

"But the tactic has spilled over to infiltrating other crimes, most recently the alleged sex acts at the Jupiter business," notes Lisa J. Hurriash at the South Florida Sun Sentinel.

"In such cases, so-called sneak-and-peek warrants let authorities access private property so the government can secretly do a search without notifying people under investigation."

-- www.reason.com
 

njlefty

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Jupiter's spa was not the only one with video. Another spa in Vero Beach had cameras secretly installed by police. We know of two now, so far, and there may be more yet to be divulged.
 

kgirler

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The War on Terrorism has become the War on Sex.

A former Federal Prosecutor said that use of video surveillance under the PATRIOT ACT against AMPs is "very, very troubling."
The passage of the Patriot Act was when America started to fall down the slippery slope. I knew we were screwed when one day I walked into the checkout line at the grocery store and saw a sign that said “in accordance with the Patriot Act, we can no longer sell PseudoFed or other allergy medication containing pseudoephedrine hydrochloride”. It's fucking allergy medicine! Bikers make methamphetamine with it. Ok, that is illegal, but does not warrant using the Patriot Act as justification.

So now they are going to film people getting massages in the hope to catch a big fish getting a handy. The terrorists have won.
 

njlefty

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The passage of the Patriot Act was when America started to fall down the slippery slope. I knew we were screwed when one day I walked into the checkout line at the grocery store and saw a sign that said “in accordance with the Patriot Act, we can no longer sell PseudoFed or other allergy medication containing pseudoephedrine hydrochloride”. It's fucking allergy medicine! Bikers make methamphetamine with it. Ok, that is illegal, but does not warrant using the Patriot Act as justification.

So now they are going to film people getting massages in the hope to catch a big fish getting a handy. The terrorists have won.
This is the first instance I know of in the United States that provisions of the PATRIOT ACT were used against AMPs. We should realize that ten AMPs may have been wired in Florida. So far, we know of only two.

Police copy tactics that work. Expect the worse.
 

kgirler

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This is the first instance I know of in the United States that provisions of the PATRIOT ACT were used against AMPs. We should realize that ten AMPs may have been wired in Florida. So far, we know of only two.

Police copy tactics that work. Expect the worse.
May 20 is “I Love You Day” in China. It’s similat to Valentine’s Day. May I suggest the perfect gift for your favorite girl?

An electronic bug sweeper.
 

driverseven

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The funding that was made available for terrorism policing has been mis-used a lot. When all that money was made available to fight al qaeda after 9/11, congress made it available to local police forces. The local police could claim some of that money if they could show there is terrorsit activity in small towns. That's why LE always is sure to say that there is a connection between terrorism and human trafficking when they bust a massage parlor. It's all about the money and the toys they get to buy with it.
 

ASHP585

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You guys realize that this thing gets national attention because Robert Kraft was involved?

I am just saying, I don't see a need to be hitting the panic button and pretending this is the end of the hobby as we know it. The media simply had a reason to dive head first all over this story, and therefore, we are hearing tons of details that have probably been around for some time but we were not concerned with. A "what you don't know, won't hurt you" type of mentality. Now, we know, and everybody seems the think the entire game has changed.
 

driverseven

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You guys realize that this thing gets national attention because Robert Kraft was involved?

I am just saying, I don't see a need to be hitting the panic button and pretending this is the end of the hobby as we know it. The media simply had a reason to dive head first all over this story, and therefore, we are hearing tons of details that have probably been around for some time but we were not concerned with. A "what you don't know, won't hurt you" type of mentality. Now, we know, and everybody seems the think the entire game has changed.
It's not the end of hobbying but the risk of going to an AMP went up significantly because of the attention. It will die down ... eventually.
 

njlefty

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You guys realize that this thing gets national attention because Robert Kraft was involved?

I am just saying, I don't see a need to be hitting the panic button and pretending this is the end of the hobby as we know it. The media simply had a reason to dive head first all over this story, and therefore, we are hearing tons of details that have probably been around for some time but we were not concerned with. A "what you don't know, won't hurt you" type of mentality. Now, we know, and everybody seems the think the entire game has changed.
In a way, this attention was needed.

This is the first known instance of police using the Patriot Act to get a warrant to install video at an AMP.

Once the dam gets a crack, it becomes a bigger problem soon enough.
 

Hardrobert

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About 35 years ago in New York in a large apartment building there were 2 next door apartments of "ill repute", building was located in the mid 50's. They were "wired" and under surveillance, not once, but twice, at the same time. Both the NYPD & FBI unbeknowst to each other had cameras in the living room, bedrooms, etc. The inevitable bust happened and it was a cluster fuck of monumental proportion. The Feebies had NYPD on film hustling the places for money and NYPD had the Feebies on film getting freebies. I think some badges were lost, but no Johns or Janes were charged. The place was closed. Had been there probably 10 years. Landlord lost a good tenant that always paid their rent on time and the building staff liked the generous tips they received. All that, and they didn't have a FISA warrant.
 
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