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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)
- Thread starter VJLUTZ
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I think it depends on what you looking for...You can't be too picky, and only set your sight on a handful of girls, most girls are flakey and flooded with hundreds of messages it's a little hard to stand out, that's why it's a numbers game, favorite a bunch of profiles/or just say hi, I would say at least 50-100 and then see what comes back, I wouldn't put too much stock on the photos especially if they are glam shots and they only have 1, they likely will look worse in person or in some occasions they may be look better in person...I also look at the profile and how the conversation is going to gauge if we might vibe in person, I then narrow it down to a short list of who I actually like to me...Having some nice profile photos and a well written profile doesn't hurt either...Be open minded and cast a wide net, and you should be able to get some responses...Good Luck
The Japanese call this "compensated dating". That's a pretty spot on term for what it is.
The brass ring for Seeking is to find a woman who gives you that GFE and is more interested in you as a person than the money. Maybe even to the point where she will eventually do it for free (though a lot of these girls really DO need financial help). Unlike a spa, it's more expensive, more work and are lots of dead ends. But it is possible to find a quality SB (beautiful, reliable, reasonable and sane) that you see for many years. If you look through this thread, you can find lots of stories of mongers who have found unicorns on Seeking. Of course, luck is a factor too.
It is very possible to find unicorns at spas too. That is really a great source for them, especially since the girls who work there tend to need everything. But there are drawbacks to that approach too. The cultural gap can be both a good thing and a real drag at times.
I've never done Agencies myself, but I know the big motivator there is the high quality of the girls (at least in terms of looks).
So, in the end, its all in what you are looking for and what you can tolerate. For a lot of us, the "hunt" is part of the challenge and is a form of entertainment. But, beyond that, I think a lot of need our heads examined in any case.
The brass ring for Seeking is to find a woman who gives you that GFE and is more interested in you as a person than the money. Maybe even to the point where she will eventually do it for free (though a lot of these girls really DO need financial help). Unlike a spa, it's more expensive, more work and are lots of dead ends. But it is possible to find a quality SB (beautiful, reliable, reasonable and sane) that you see for many years. If you look through this thread, you can find lots of stories of mongers who have found unicorns on Seeking. Of course, luck is a factor too.
It is very possible to find unicorns at spas too. That is really a great source for them, especially since the girls who work there tend to need everything. But there are drawbacks to that approach too. The cultural gap can be both a good thing and a real drag at times.
I've never done Agencies myself, but I know the big motivator there is the high quality of the girls (at least in terms of looks).
So, in the end, its all in what you are looking for and what you can tolerate. For a lot of us, the "hunt" is part of the challenge and is a form of entertainment. But, beyond that, I think a lot of need our heads examined in any case.
I have found $500 to be the number where you'll get the interest of a number of legit girls who are open to 4-5 hour hotel meets. On my last go round in July I had so many texting me that it was a bit overwhelming. I got ghosted a few times on meet and greets . And I ghosted a few myself. All part of the game. But well worth the effort.
It takes a mix of skill, luck and patience. Here’s a list of some quick thoughts I have on your question. Call it Best Practices and I hope my fellow entrepreneurs here will add to it:
- It’s fishing not catching so limit your Expectations
- Use a decent pic , write something interesting with correct grammar and spelling and be specific… altho’ few likely will read it but the ones who do are the keepers
- Know that the real SBs are the ones who didn’t sign up last night but months ago. Last night’s crop are mostly scammers. You can play with them but few are meeting up
- Latinas are fairly represented and seem not to be scammers in my view. They are fun and good value
- Be wary if they want to chat offline immediately. It’s as scam
- Take the initiative. Say hello first but comment on something and start a conversation. Don’t lead with Hiya or hi.
- The less undying a SBs profile the less likely it’s real.
- Look for ones with photos or photos available.
- Be funny and sincere. Stand out in a good way.
- Don’t waste time on out of state or country. You’re not going and they’re not coming!
There’s a ton more but I hope this helps.
- It’s fishing not catching so limit your Expectations
- Use a decent pic , write something interesting with correct grammar and spelling and be specific… altho’ few likely will read it but the ones who do are the keepers
- Know that the real SBs are the ones who didn’t sign up last night but months ago. Last night’s crop are mostly scammers. You can play with them but few are meeting up
- Latinas are fairly represented and seem not to be scammers in my view. They are fun and good value
- Be wary if they want to chat offline immediately. It’s as scam
- Take the initiative. Say hello first but comment on something and start a conversation. Don’t lead with Hiya or hi.
- The less undying a SBs profile the less likely it’s real.
- Look for ones with photos or photos available.
- Be funny and sincere. Stand out in a good way.
- Don’t waste time on out of state or country. You’re not going and they’re not coming!
There’s a ton more but I hope this helps.
I don't doubt it. But for me (and probably others), a big part of the challenge is seeing how much I can get for the least. It's always been that way. I hate paying 2X for something I could have gotten for X. Obviously, this approach is more work, but also a lot more satisfying when it pays off. Simply because you feel like she is doing you for YOU and not the Benjamins.
I always go to an SA date very relaxed and don’t give a f**k because if I strike out, then I’ll just go to an amp.
Am I the only one who didn’t f**k the Tibetan girl from Brooklyn? She was passed around more often than Covid and Bird Flu combined. Two members from this site offered her to me but I didn’t bother calling. lol
Am I the only one who didn’t f**k the Tibetan girl from Brooklyn? She was passed around more often than Covid and Bird Flu combined. Two members from this site offered her to me but I didn’t bother calling. lol
Apparently, there is a whole thing called simping (see video). I don't understand it. Hopefully no one in this forum falls into that category.
SIMPS - YouTube
SIMPS - YouTube
$500 for 4-5 hours ain't bad that averages roughly $100/hr...is it discussed or implied that the majority of time will be fucking? I have also found the average in NYC to be around $500, the question is for how long and what you getting for that....My initial offer which I send every girl is $300 for 3 hours of "hotel fun"...
To which:
a.) I will be called a cheap ass, or some other name which I ignore
b.) ghosted and blocked on the site
c.) if we are close they will counter maybe at $500, and we settle on $400 or something like that
d.) or they highball me at some absurd number like $800-$1000 , and I don't bother countering because we too far apart and will not be able to bridge the gap
If the chick is not as attractive or in the milf territory she will likely readily accept the low offer (which I prefer milfs anyways), or Latina, Black chicks are more readily to accept the offers in the lower range however be careful because they will try to spring the Uber me roundtrip BS on you last minute from Deep Bronx, Mt Vernon, or White Plains which will cost you almost as much as as the ppm amount, they will try to tell you that they can't or won't take the trains, Lolz
Some guys like to wine and dine before the hotel fun, I like to do it the opposite 3 hours of fun at the hotel we fuck, hang out whatever and I bring snacks, wine and weed if the girl wants to hotel...Then IF we vibe and we both want to hang out we can go for dinner afterwards but that time is off the clock. Of the roughly 3 dozen girls I met, I have never really done meet and greet...Only twice did I do lunch/dinner first but the girl knew if there was no part 2 of the date in the bedroom they would not get squat from me,
Most of my arrangement are $300-$500 range with $500 being the unofficial line in the sand I will almost never cross...I paid as little as $200 to a tall skinny black chick who was a complete whack job who marked her ethnicity as Native American to get more attention on her profile...The most I paid was to my ATF (now off the site, pls no pm's) we initially started at $400 but asked to go $600 since she wasn't seeing any other SD (and yes I have reasons why I believe her), I made the exception because she checked all my boxes in terms of what I was looking for tall, and thick Chinese PAAG with cute face with sexy body, complete nympho who fucks like the energizer bunny and we usually hang for like at least 4-5 hours minimum...To me that was dumb luck and the first girl I met on Seeking, everybody else hasn't been able to compare to her, and they get less....
To which:
a.) I will be called a cheap ass, or some other name which I ignore
b.) ghosted and blocked on the site
c.) if we are close they will counter maybe at $500, and we settle on $400 or something like that
d.) or they highball me at some absurd number like $800-$1000 , and I don't bother countering because we too far apart and will not be able to bridge the gap
If the chick is not as attractive or in the milf territory she will likely readily accept the low offer (which I prefer milfs anyways), or Latina, Black chicks are more readily to accept the offers in the lower range however be careful because they will try to spring the Uber me roundtrip BS on you last minute from Deep Bronx, Mt Vernon, or White Plains which will cost you almost as much as as the ppm amount, they will try to tell you that they can't or won't take the trains, Lolz
Some guys like to wine and dine before the hotel fun, I like to do it the opposite 3 hours of fun at the hotel we fuck, hang out whatever and I bring snacks, wine and weed if the girl wants to hotel...Then IF we vibe and we both want to hang out we can go for dinner afterwards but that time is off the clock. Of the roughly 3 dozen girls I met, I have never really done meet and greet...Only twice did I do lunch/dinner first but the girl knew if there was no part 2 of the date in the bedroom they would not get squat from me,
Most of my arrangement are $300-$500 range with $500 being the unofficial line in the sand I will almost never cross...I paid as little as $200 to a tall skinny black chick who was a complete whack job who marked her ethnicity as Native American to get more attention on her profile...The most I paid was to my ATF (now off the site, pls no pm's) we initially started at $400 but asked to go $600 since she wasn't seeing any other SD (and yes I have reasons why I believe her), I made the exception because she checked all my boxes in terms of what I was looking for tall, and thick Chinese PAAG with cute face with sexy body, complete nympho who fucks like the energizer bunny and we usually hang for like at least 4-5 hours minimum...To me that was dumb luck and the first girl I met on Seeking, everybody else hasn't been able to compare to her, and they get less....
One member showed me her profile,
Face: 7 (She looks like a younger Chloe who used to work at AW)
Body: I don’t know. She’s petite
Age: I don’t know exactly. Early 20s
Rate: 200-300
She would host at her apartment.
Now that I’m thinking about it, she’s either Nepalese or Tibetan. My bad. lol
There was a separate thread (I think it was two years ago) in this site about a member mentioning about a girl in Brooklyn going batshit crazy at him. Sounds like her. lol
Face: 7 (She looks like a younger Chloe who used to work at AW)
Body: I don’t know. She’s petite
Age: I don’t know exactly. Early 20s
Rate: 200-300
She would host at her apartment.
Now that I’m thinking about it, she’s either Nepalese or Tibetan. My bad. lol
There was a separate thread (I think it was two years ago) in this site about a member mentioning about a girl in Brooklyn going batshit crazy at him. Sounds like her. lol