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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)
- Thread starter VJLUTZ
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If you had guys wanting to give you 50 dollars to fuck you in the ass bare, you don’t think you might start a little higher with your opening price.
Also why see 5 guys for 100 dollars when if you wait long enough you will find one guy to give you 500?
Cheap guys are just as bad for the game as guys who over pay.
I see guys on other sites bragging about how they spent 2 hours throat fucking some girl and fucking her raw every which way and then gave her 50 bucks. You don’t think that will change how you see the next guy?
Also why see 5 guys for 100 dollars when if you wait long enough you will find one guy to give you 500?
Cheap guys are just as bad for the game as guys who over pay.
I see guys on other sites bragging about how they spent 2 hours throat fucking some girl and fucking her raw every which way and then gave her 50 bucks. You don’t think that will change how you see the next guy?
That situation sometimes happens and would definitely affect how the girl would feel going forward. But that’s not the only reason some are asking for exorbitant allowances. Some of these SBs network with each other and exchange tips on how to soak the guy for as much as possible. There are entire blogs on this. Best to avoid girls like that if possible
I have seen those BS blogs. How one girl got one guy one time to give her 5k a month for two months straight and now she thinks 5k is her new min rate. And now also thinks she is the new authority on how to negotiate with a guy. She didn’t add in her blog was how she just took it in the ass for a 150 by the 15 last guys she met cause she doesn’t know shit. I laugh my balls off at those blogs. What’s worse is the new girls believing their bullshit. I have talked to a few of those and spoke to them reasonably. Spoke to them from our side. After that lesson they thanked me for giving them proper knowledge. And of course asked me to meet up. Lol.
If you talk to them as ho’s you are going to get a ho’s answer. If you talk to them like a business transaction and take a moment you will get her in the sack.
Most of the time it’s women bragging and posturing trying to look sophicated and business savvy.
I've had excellent success with SA, I've been a member on and off since 2013. Most of the women have been less than 30 years old, and my typical rate has been $400 per meet. Occasionally you get the pro, and the fat one. But I've had some real beautiful ones. My last long term was 26 (I'm 60), she would come over after work during the week, always the same night. I would make her some drinks, we would have dinner, each shower, and some of the best sex of my live, BBBJ and bareback. Did she not have a BF and was she not doing this with someone else, no, I don't think so. $400 consistently for her once a week, that's and extra $1,600 cash on top of her full time job salary. We would fuck again at 4 am, she'd be out the door on her way to work at 7, and so would I. Lasted about 7 months, got boring, and decided to move on, no hard feelings. Once in a while we would meet twice in a week, and naturally there were times where we could not meet, but I was pretty consistent. She felt safe, and I treated her like a queen. How many BF's make you delicious cosmos, Martinis, the occasional bracelet, etc.. In return, she would rock my world.
Most recently, I had a 21 year old, just stunning, College Junior, come over. Within 2 hours she gave me the time of my life, I love eating that delicious stuff, so sweet. We are now on a once a week thing, and she is also staying over this week. Again, my top end is $400 cash per meet, I don't budge from that. Obviously you have to be able to afford that, and be consistent. My opinion is when 1 girl from that site finds a guy, in good shape, that is single, decent looking, fun to be with, and lives alone, and can come over, feel safe, be treated like a queen, and go home each time consistently with $400, it's a no brainer. The key I've found is to treat them very well, get their favorite drink, cheese, whatever, and take it from there. It can be time consuming, and there are a lot of scammers and pros, but put up a natural profile, have pictures available, and be normal. There are some very delicious 21 to 25 year olds on there just looking for 1 guy to hook up with. Could there be a second guy, perhaps, but who cares? Other than the time we are together, I leave her alone. No texting, no stalking, nothing. I always am respectful and wait until I hear from them, they always come back, as long as they feel comfortable, and feel like they are treated well. I try to have a good time with them. It's fun. Typically they do have F'ed up stories, divorced parents, father treated them like crap, etc., but who cares.
I've had no less than 50 women over since 2013 - I always insist on hosting at my place. No hotels, no back seat of the car. Sometimes they want to meet for dinner or a drink somewhere first, which I'm agreeable to as long as it's not more than 20 miles from me. Often they follow me home, occasionally it doesn't work out. But often, after some texting, they agree to come over, as crazy as that sounds. Make them feel comfortable, don't be an asshole, and be normal. Is the AMP easier? Of course it is. But 30 minutes of 69 with a hot 21 to 30 year old, shower together, all of that, some good talk and laughter, is much more enjoyable to me. Just my take on SA.
Most recently, I had a 21 year old, just stunning, College Junior, come over. Within 2 hours she gave me the time of my life, I love eating that delicious stuff, so sweet. We are now on a once a week thing, and she is also staying over this week. Again, my top end is $400 cash per meet, I don't budge from that. Obviously you have to be able to afford that, and be consistent. My opinion is when 1 girl from that site finds a guy, in good shape, that is single, decent looking, fun to be with, and lives alone, and can come over, feel safe, be treated like a queen, and go home each time consistently with $400, it's a no brainer. The key I've found is to treat them very well, get their favorite drink, cheese, whatever, and take it from there. It can be time consuming, and there are a lot of scammers and pros, but put up a natural profile, have pictures available, and be normal. There are some very delicious 21 to 25 year olds on there just looking for 1 guy to hook up with. Could there be a second guy, perhaps, but who cares? Other than the time we are together, I leave her alone. No texting, no stalking, nothing. I always am respectful and wait until I hear from them, they always come back, as long as they feel comfortable, and feel like they are treated well. I try to have a good time with them. It's fun. Typically they do have F'ed up stories, divorced parents, father treated them like crap, etc., but who cares.
I've had no less than 50 women over since 2013 - I always insist on hosting at my place. No hotels, no back seat of the car. Sometimes they want to meet for dinner or a drink somewhere first, which I'm agreeable to as long as it's not more than 20 miles from me. Often they follow me home, occasionally it doesn't work out. But often, after some texting, they agree to come over, as crazy as that sounds. Make them feel comfortable, don't be an asshole, and be normal. Is the AMP easier? Of course it is. But 30 minutes of 69 with a hot 21 to 30 year old, shower together, all of that, some good talk and laughter, is much more enjoyable to me. Just my take on SA.
Also, I do ignore a lot of them. When they ask me how much allowance right away, I'll say I'm not interested. Many are there fo sell videos and photos, again, I'm not interested. There are ones that have hotel rooms, and want you to come to them, no thanks. I know what I want. Again, it's time consuming, but when you find a nice one, that's pretty, single, and looking for some extra cash, and you can get in to a good routine with them, there is nothing better in my book. Again, I just turned 60, am in good shape, work out a lot, but I am 60. Nevertheless, 21 to 28 year olds, very pretty ones, are easy to find if you play it right. That's what I've found out.
Excellent post, great insight. I agree with a lot of what you said (e.g., be natural, act normal, don't be clingy). Unlike you, I am married, so the girl has to host. And, even if I was single, I'd avoid having the girl come to my place. I try to protect my identity. I also shy away from women who are under 23. My sweet spot is 25-35. I did one month of SA last Jan end had four encounters, but narrowed it down to one keeper who I see 2-3X per month. Its 2-3 hours per meet (@300), but not being rushed, not following the tired AMP script and not worrying about LE makes it worth it.
Once they have your trust, and you know them, via facebook and Instagram, then I feel that being up front and honest as far as identity goes a long way. I try to explain to them early on that if it does not work out, then no harm done, and we part as friends. Ultimately, there is really nothing they can do to me. I'm single, live alone, am divorced, and own my own business. So other that telling my two sons, which I really don't give a rats ass about, there is really nothing they can do to me. And I love the overnights. 21 to 28 tastes so delicious.
Excellent post. Some can't host at home. However all the rest is 100pct. ALL Women want to feel comfortable and ALL Women want to feel safe and be with someone normal.
That not over texting is key. They get that shit from thirsty young dudes. That confidence and non clingyness just makes them see you as a better more confident Man. A successful Man who other Women want. So she stays with you. Fuck her right and she's yours typically as long as you want her.
Women are like cats. Men are like dogs. Cats like to come and go as they please. And come to get petted from time to time.
That not over texting is key. They get that shit from thirsty young dudes. That confidence and non clingyness just makes them see you as a better more confident Man. A successful Man who other Women want. So she stays with you. Fuck her right and she's yours typically as long as you want her.
Women are like cats. Men are like dogs. Cats like to come and go as they please. And come to get petted from time to time.
Yes if you’re single, it might be ok to be upfront and honest about your personal info. But married guys need to be careful about this. I never reveal anything about my identity to them. I make up a fake name and cover story. One problem is that seeing them over time they start getting used to the cash coming in regularly. Eventually you get tired of them and want to break it off but some don’t like the idea that their cash flow is ending and they have to start the hunt again. Then they might become resentful, upset, or even vengeful. If they know your identity and personal details, that might be a potential problem. Not being paranoid, but I’ve heard stories about this. So it’s good to enjoy them while it lasts, but always be safe
My biggest concern about identity with SA is that who knows who she might share info with - girlfriends, family, boyfriends, etc. Life is long and I don't want that floating around out there in who knows what hands. Much more risk here for instance than with the MMS of a good AMP, I think. Have had to break a few SA deals off/not even start because we didn't see eye to eye on maintaining anonymity, but there seem to be plenty of girls who don't mind.
I dunno. You might imagine there is nothing they can do to you, but human beings can be very innovative. Especially a woman who is pissed off about something.
As far as trust goes, that does not seem to be an issue, even thought they know I'm withholding my identity. That's probably because I come off as a very mature, normal, non threatening guy (which is what I am).
Ditto.
As far as trust goes, that does not seem to be an issue, even thought they know I'm withholding my identity. That's probably because I come off as a very mature, normal, non threatening guy (which is what I am).
Ditto.
I like the AMPs, but I'm not married, so SA gives me young fresh pussy to eat and have fun with. I'd never do the things I've done with the SA girls at an AMP, never. And if your lucky and get the right one, you can fuck them all night, or two or three times in one session, and the sessions are much more enjoyable, in my opinion, then an AMP. From my perspective, there is no risk involved. There is nothing they can really do to me. I would never be nasty, or revengeful, or hurtful. Yes, all these relationships eventually end, and they usually don't end on a good note, mostly for them, but, oh well, life goes on for them. And you, for the most part, can just find another. A very pretty, 20 something, 115 pounds, caucasian or Columbian woman is so delicious for me, WOW. I just love it. It's worth all of that risk. Treat them like a queen, cook them dinner, have good food, good wine, grey gooses, whatever they want. Get them feeling buzzed, and go crazy with them. Again, I'm not married, divorced, live alone in a nice large condo, own my own business, so from my perspective, what can they really do to hurt me? Tell my 2 boys, who are 27 and 30, they don't give a rats ass, in fact, the older guy knows about a few of them. He's probably jealous.
Well, for starters, even if I was single, I would never let these girls on my social media accounts. Who know WTF they could post if they got their pussies in a snit (including embarrassing pics you may not realize they took). I guess, technically, that's called "cyberbullying" (a term I used to laugh off). Could that hurt you? I guess it depends on how you define "hurt". But if they do it in a forum where your family, friends and clients can see, it could leave a mark. Even if you eventually discover and delete it, once its on the Internet you have to assume its there forever. All it takes is for one person to make a screenshot and post it somewhere else.
They could also make up BS stories about abuse and even rape, and go to the authorities. Of course, they could do that without knowing your identity too, but they would look more idiotic & slutty if they did so. I concede that the chance of any of this is very small, especially if you treat them right, but its not zero. I also think it much more likely a early 20s student type would pull this shit. All these girls really know is how thinks work in the Ivy Tower vs. the Real World. But unfortunately, they probably do know how to exact damage with social media before they are mature enough to understand the nature of the damage they are doing.
I also save all my conversation logs with these girls. Just in case.
They could also make up BS stories about abuse and even rape, and go to the authorities. Of course, they could do that without knowing your identity too, but they would look more idiotic & slutty if they did so. I concede that the chance of any of this is very small, especially if you treat them right, but its not zero. I also think it much more likely a early 20s student type would pull this shit. All these girls really know is how thinks work in the Ivy Tower vs. the Real World. But unfortunately, they probably do know how to exact damage with social media before they are mature enough to understand the nature of the damage they are doing.
I also save all my conversation logs with these girls. Just in case.