I'm gonna jump in. I'll see your four points and raise you to seven.
1. I will stipulate that absolutely yes all of us here, very much including myself, are pieces of shit and are guilty of exploiting and dehumanizing the girls in a variety of ways and to varying degrees. But sometimes I'm gonna throw stones in my beautiful glass house filled with cute Asian whores with nice cleavage anyway.
2. I have no issues with the the session itself as described. It was consensual and you didn't put any more physical stress on her body than the average client it seems. Probably less, I imagine, since you only penetrated one of her holes. Agreed the guys who laugh about smacking the girls or being rough in other ways (non-consensually) are destined to a much lower ring of hell.
3. But re-read your words. It does come off that you kinda get a kick out of putting her down and reveling in the dehumanization outside the confines of the room.
4. I've met Sara briefly, but never had a session with her, so have no particular feelings for her either way. From what I hear from dudes who know her well, she's a tough lady, and likely doesn't give a shit about you either or what you say about her here. (Not sure about the "very very" part in the headline though. I thought at least one of the verys was a bit gratuitous). So you're right there. Sounds like she's better than most at compartmentalizing and leaning in HARD to the dehumanization-for-profit. She also sounds intelligent and very funny in her own way, albeit possibly batshit crazy, but then again, she IS a woman after all. So this isn't really about Sara per se.
5. That said, there's a difference between not viewing the girls as your girlfriends vs viewing them (or writing about them) as pure holes. I feel like there should be a place in between those two extremes. I of course view them as more than holes - they are holes with tits. And faces. And holes with tits and faces who can kiss well. And maybe holes with tits and faces and personalities who can kiss well and hopefully hold my head while doing all these things and/or vocalizing their own simulated pleasure with me. Do they view us as non-human and just as ATM's? Maybe some view all of us that way, and most view some of us that way. But I think, again, there's a difference between them not really thinking we're most handsome, best in bed, having a special relationship, etc etc., vs viewing us as non-human ATMs. One example comes to mind. I read a review recently where some guy had some sort of medical episode after getting drained by Victoria H and nearly fainted. As I recall, V was reported to be very sweet and offered to stay with that guy, even if it meant cancelling some appointments and losing some money. In other words, she viewed that guy as both an ATM but also as a human being, and showed some basic human decency. I wonder what ever happened to that guy? Or if that incident changed his perspective at all.
6. In conclusion, I agree with one of the comments, but more for your own sake, not so much the girls' sake: be better. Granted, it's really just marginally better, and when we're marginally better pieces of shit we're still pieces of shit.
7. Wishing everyone, including both sides of this conversation - very fine people on both sides - an early Happy Day of Atonement!
1. I will stipulate that absolutely yes all of us here, very much including myself, are pieces of shit and are guilty of exploiting and dehumanizing the girls in a variety of ways and to varying degrees. But sometimes I'm gonna throw stones in my beautiful glass house filled with cute Asian whores with nice cleavage anyway.
2. I have no issues with the the session itself as described. It was consensual and you didn't put any more physical stress on her body than the average client it seems. Probably less, I imagine, since you only penetrated one of her holes. Agreed the guys who laugh about smacking the girls or being rough in other ways (non-consensually) are destined to a much lower ring of hell.
3. But re-read your words. It does come off that you kinda get a kick out of putting her down and reveling in the dehumanization outside the confines of the room.
4. I've met Sara briefly, but never had a session with her, so have no particular feelings for her either way. From what I hear from dudes who know her well, she's a tough lady, and likely doesn't give a shit about you either or what you say about her here. (Not sure about the "very very" part in the headline though. I thought at least one of the verys was a bit gratuitous). So you're right there. Sounds like she's better than most at compartmentalizing and leaning in HARD to the dehumanization-for-profit. She also sounds intelligent and very funny in her own way, albeit possibly batshit crazy, but then again, she IS a woman after all. So this isn't really about Sara per se.
5. That said, there's a difference between not viewing the girls as your girlfriends vs viewing them (or writing about them) as pure holes. I feel like there should be a place in between those two extremes. I of course view them as more than holes - they are holes with tits. And faces. And holes with tits and faces who can kiss well. And maybe holes with tits and faces and personalities who can kiss well and hopefully hold my head while doing all these things and/or vocalizing their own simulated pleasure with me. Do they view us as non-human and just as ATM's? Maybe some view all of us that way, and most view some of us that way. But I think, again, there's a difference between them not really thinking we're most handsome, best in bed, having a special relationship, etc etc., vs viewing us as non-human ATMs. One example comes to mind. I read a review recently where some guy had some sort of medical episode after getting drained by Victoria H and nearly fainted. As I recall, V was reported to be very sweet and offered to stay with that guy, even if it meant cancelling some appointments and losing some money. In other words, she viewed that guy as both an ATM but also as a human being, and showed some basic human decency. I wonder what ever happened to that guy? Or if that incident changed his perspective at all.
6. In conclusion, I agree with one of the comments, but more for your own sake, not so much the girls' sake: be better. Granted, it's really just marginally better, and when we're marginally better pieces of shit we're still pieces of shit.
7. Wishing everyone, including both sides of this conversation - very fine people on both sides - an early Happy Day of Atonement!