I don't mind the increase, the problem is that we're stuck with a not so good talent if they start bringing talent as we have it a few years ago that will be a different story
To respond to both you and Viptraveler2022, it's about orgs better understanding of market dynamics especially in growing monger/provider markets in SF pennisula/southbay, LA, and LV since there is a lot of providers moving between them.
I don't want to pay $300/hr for all providers even if tourists are paying more than that in LV. It was $220/hr around here before pandemic. The problem is the trend, does it go to $400/hr next year? Few people here are grateful they aren't paying LV or LA prices, only maybe if you are from there.
The orgs doing this are are actually undermining their market. Part of the problem, is that I think the providers are driving this, going to orgs who will promise them the higher prices, without understanding that raising prices at a new org may cause faster drop in bookings. It's normal that bookings drop after a while for a provider like Niya, but how much of the drop is a desire for new pussy vs I won't pay more than $280 unless FB9+, I don't know.
Topoyiyo:
I don't think they will bring in crappier providers unless that's all that is available. It's an issue of are the good looking providers making more or less than in South Korea. The South Korean won has gone down 15% against dollar in last year, so this means providers are making 15% more in won per dollar than a year ago
. So, this suggests more providers for orgs to choose from. And, they need better looking providers to justify higher prices. But I'm probably wrong...
More general discussion of market dynamics;
I mostly have experience in south bay, and only ancedotally about LA and LV. But those with more info, experience feel free to disagree, you won't hurt my feelings (much). I find that putting out a usually wrong in some way, hypothesis, will prompt objections that are more instructive than just asking for info which usually I get no responses.
I think the key difference in Southbay is the high density of regular, frequent mongers due to the Silicon Valley which provides a larger concentration of highly paid high tech workers than elsewhere. Also, a large percentage are foreign born asians where p4p is common and legal. In addition, there is large business traffic to from asian high tech areas. This dynamic market, I believe, has led to lower prices and better choices than in other markets.
I think frequent, experienced mongers, more common in Southbay, tend to care more about the quality of service, attitude than the more monger infrequent, hot looks driven markets like LA or LV. Generally, larger, denser markets where total number of providers are accessible by the most mongers in less than 1/2hr drive to San Mateo or Southbay is most competitive in terms of pricing tiers and provider choice, and tends to be more rational, driven by good reviews and less by hot pics.
Regular, repeat mongers, commonly will refer to a repeat provider as "in my rotation". However, they get bored and are always trying new providers, one of the reasons orgs will change out providers since new providers will get a lot of initial traffic until novelty wears off and bad reviews slows business.
LA has a reputation of hotter looks, and lesser importance of service. LA has a lower density of mongers who can afford regular visits. Although LA may have similar number of providers, my understanding is they are spread out. You can't see them all without having to drive an hour. So, in LA, pricing reflects looks.
Las Vegas market I think is high price, driven by tourists. In that market, non asian or white providers command highest price while asian being more unfamiliar to white american tourist sex fantasies, can't get bookings unless almost half price. (I'm caucasian)
The fact that providers rotate between higher priced LA and LV and lower priced Southbay suggests they get more consistent bookings here. In addition, there is a submarket difference among korgs between Pennisula and Southbay. San Mateo gets more traffic from San Francisco and East bay, but San Mateo I think has less than 1/2 the traffic of Southbay.
In my experience, each geographic area has a different market dynamic, even dominate review/ad forum is different.
The total amount spent in the market could go up by several fold by dropping prices less than intuition suggests, by stealing business from amps, live cam girls, going to strip clubs with extras, expensive sex travel, etc. The key is that a relative small drop in price can pull large volumes of regular customers from other markets. I think the total monger/provider market in Southbay has gone up several fold over last 10-15 years since SF Redbook got the ball rolling.
However, one of the keys to better competition, better value selection is accurate reviews.
I would like feedback from mongers or PO's or those in the know who talk to providers who have gone back and forth between, Southbay, LA, and LV who can both challenge and validate my simplistic assumptions. So, is the number of repeat customers higher in Southbay? What percent of LV are tourists, or in LV do they see the same monger over a few days and then never see them again? Is the total Southbay market growing, but bookings are down because of an increase in total number of repeatable providers?
You can pm me if you think your info disclosure might compromise you. I know some POs and providers read reviews and comments for useful feedback about orgs and providers.
Finally, it seems a popular provider at $260/hr even after room and org cut is making a killing tax free, way more per hour than most of her highly paid clients who can afford to see her. I'm not crying about that, but resistant to paying more than $260 hr which got jacked up from $220 hr before pandemic.
