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Review: LSC Leedia

Slowmonkey56

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I remember now. It was aampmaps site. pictures were published daily in set of three or four and it went on for two or three days and that site got shut down because of weird things happening. I think it was some kind a org wars and some idiot belonging to the org, must be a PO who was throwing all these pictures out in public. this fucker even started posting pictures of the apartment buildings with door entrances and asking LE to arrest the mongers and orgs. There was someone masking as FBI handle also. It was the most bizarre moments and it all ended very quickly and abruptly shutting down the site
Wow that is crazy
 

SJ_Jav

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I remember now. It was aampmaps site. pictures were published daily in set of three or four and it went on for two or three days and that site got shut down because of weird things happening. I think it was some kind a org wars and some idiot belonging to the org, must be a PO who was throwing all these pictures out in public. this fucker even started posting pictures of the apartment buildings with door entrances and asking LE to arrest the mongers and orgs. There was someone masking as FBI handle also. It was the most bizarre moments and it all ended very quickly and abruptly shutting down the site
I 100% remember this! I thought it was a former monger that found religion or something like that?
 

Crowdedstreet

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I 100% remember this! I thought it was a former monger that found religion or something like that?
I think it was a PO who had access to the pictures of mongers. That dude even stated the profession of the mongers .. like CEO, software engineer etc. How they got so much detail and connected the dude to linked in etc was bizarre
 

Slowmonkey56

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I think it was a PO who had access to the pictures of mongers. That dude even stated the profession of the mongers .. like CEO, software engineer etc. How they got so much detail and connected the dude to linked in etc was bizarre
How did he know their jobs, that is so weird. Those guys got doxxed bad
 

Crowdedstreet

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Ah, I only remember some of the pics was like the guy was stalking the entrances of buildings and snapping pics of dudes waiting outside. I didn't know he was posting full selfies of dudes sent to orgs. Not good.
He had lot of details on the mongers with their pictures. I still remember their names, their employers, what they did at the companies … lots of gory details were published and it was so fucking scary … it was surreal.
 

Slowmonkey56

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He had lot of details on the mongers with their pictures. I still remember their names, their employers, what they did at the companies … lots of gory details were published and it was so fucking scary … it was surreal.
How did he get that info? Do people just tell that dutf to get screened?
 

Crowdedstreet

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How did he get that info? Do people just tell that dutf to get screened?
It’s not difficult. Once you’ve the picture and ID which they must have given the PO, they can connect the pictures and ID to linked in and track the monger to the place they work at. That’s why they keep asking for ID and selfie. They want your name and from that they create a profile and use it to blackmail later like ransomware
 

Slowmonkey56

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It’s not difficult. Once you’ve the picture and ID which they must have given the PO, they can connect the pictures and ID to linked in and track the monger to the place they work at. That’s why they keep asking for ID and selfie. They want your name and from that they create a profile and use it to blackmail later like ransomware
I am sure the POs have hidden cameras in the rooms and took all our pictures already. Does that mean PO will ransom us? I mean will they just put all our pictures on the website like that guy? I think this is not good
 

bonerhope

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I remember now. It was aampmaps site. pictures were published daily in set of three or four and it went on for two or three days and that site got shut down because of weird things happening. I think it was some kind a org wars and some idiot belonging to the org, must be a PO who was throwing all these pictures out in public. this fucker even started posting pictures of the apartment buildings with door entrances and asking LE to arrest the mongers and orgs. There was someone masking as FBI handle also. It was the most bizarre moments and it all ended very quickly and abruptly shutting down the site
I was on aampmaps but missed this bru ha ha with the monger pics, but remember it getting shutdown. aampmaps my understanding was owned by rubmaps. With hindsight with my experience with follow on Erotic Monkey, also owned by rubmaps, where after Sesta/Fosta they were trashing real reviews and promoting fake ones, evidently to validly claim the reviews are fantasy, amd consequently aren't promoting prostition. I deduced rubmaps was very wary of any legal or liability problems. They didn't want to risk their rubmaps cash cow.
 

bonerhope

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I am sure the POs have hidden cameras in the rooms and took all our pictures already. Does that mean PO will ransom us? I mean will they just put all our pictures on the website like that guy? I think this is not good
Slowmonkey56 I see you just joined. Were you previously on ampreviews or not? If so, under what handle? You appear to be fear mongering lacking any evidence. Are trying to scare mongers (scare mongering mongers - ha ha) into abstinence from seeing providers. So, 1) Cameras (video is better) in provider rooms, surely there should be audio which is easier to identify? 2) PO blackmails, not ransomes, mongers over illicit pictures, like old movie plot, and 3) expose us on the internet for the adultorers we are, like having to wear the A in the Scarlet Letter. Why did you just realize now this is not good? It seems more likely you are not a monger but trolling us with our own fears you really don't understand?

Crowdedstreet actually dug up a real situation to justify his fears. Also, you're are off topic. This has nothing to do with the review of Leedia. You should start your own topic, express these thoughts to a wider audience, and see what responses you get.

In case you are a monger..
If you say for sure the POs have hidden cameras in the room, where's your evidence, or when you got scared you stopped thinking critically (happens all the time to smart people)? You seem clueless that it's not the POs but the provider would be more likely to use her own cellphone (some have two). I find it highly improbable that POs are putting cameras in rooms, and I have never heard of one being found despite, 10s of thousands of visits by tech savvy mongers. You know if a credible monger finds a hidden camera in a provider room, it could seriously impact the providers business, just like if a monger gets caught recording a provider, the monger usually gets banned.

Same argument for why POs don't ransome (blackmail?) their customers? Maybe you're a kid who doesn't know the difference between ransome and blackmail? You have evidence? Surest way to drive all of your customers away. POs have reputations, they go thru a bunch of different orgs, but the reputation of the PO is more important. Also, if you are a monger what is a monger's biggest fear?
 

bonerhope

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I was a regular there for years and they know that. Last year, despite knowing me as a long time regular there, that PO was insisting on selfie. Go figure. Why selfie? Who knows, get your picture in their databases for use in the futures whichever way they want. There was a dude (maybe a snitch) on one of the previous sites … can’t remember that site name ampsomething … he started publishing all the pictures on the public forum on a daily basis, threatening, blackmailing them. He even said he was sending those to the LE. Well, I guess he was one of them , a close confidante of these orgs. Trust me, you don’t want your ID, selfies, pictures in any of these org fuckers hands. It could come back to haunt you, and you’ll never know when and how. Adios
Ok, I'm trying hard to respectfully budge your mind/fear, and lots of others about giving your picture to LSC, with both factual business reasons and pointing out alternative risks that are larger, also about why it's normal to exaggerate a small fear you have control over if there is a larger underlying fear you don't have control of. I'm interested if I'm wrong about anything, or if you have evidence to the contrary like you did with the pics, ID info that got onto aampmaps.

When LSC asked for selfie, how long had it been since you had last seen a provider there? For newbies LSC I hear now asks for DL and work id. I think they changed screening after shutting down SM operation after it got outed by a monger stupidity. I got in probably like you at beginning of LSC. I was on their monger list from predecessor GSC. They haven't asked for a selfy from me, either because I've been fairly regular, or because I'm a really old white dude.

I'm not sure why orgs ask for pics after the monger has been gone awhile. It makes sense for newbie's in order to make sure the org has pics if the new monger misbehaves, gets banned. So, I think they keep the pics and IDs of the ones banned to help screen them out if they change their burner number to try to get back in, but do ditch the good behaving monger pics, IDs.

I had Ceroni's PO ask me what I would be wearing at the door, but that I think was Ceroni being careful that it was the monger at the door rather than a thief rapist who figures out the timing, and shows up at the door right before the monger.

I now think korgs asking for the latest pic after the monger hasn't booked any providers in a while to prevent swapping mongers on the same burner number like similar korean providers being swapped with a white guy monger, which I have suspected a few times. (I think some POs think Koreans with similar body, age all look the same to white guys.).

It's not that the PO actually has an older pic of the monger, it's the fear of the newly swapped monger who doesn't know better that if he sends his photo, they will catch and ban him, or if instead the original monger sends his pic, they will check if the guy showing up at door is the same or not, and if different also ban the burner number.

In my experience, after 6 months, I know some korgs require a reduced screening, like send us your pic with today's date written on paper included in pic. AA asked me to do that to see Niya who moved there briefly, probably because I hadn't been to AA in several years, but I was in their database.

Of all the POs, I trust the LSC PO most who runs a tight ship and has a German's strictness for following the rules. She is the only PO with a whole page called Candy 101, on how a monger should behave which I have found is pretty good advice for avoiding issues with difficult POs. It's this strictness with rules that makes it sometimes unpleasant to deal with her, but I also I believe she does what she says that she will destroy the pics and IDs after first 1 or 2 successful visits.

And, the reason to destroy pics and IDs of good mongers is to prevent the escaping of user ID info by a hacker, or malfeasant like you pointed out maybe worked for a Korg, the guy who outed pics of mongers going into buildings on aampmaps. POs also have to protect their reputation not only that they know how to screen to keep providers safe (which includes saving pics, ID info on banned mongers who try to change burner number to get back in), but also trusted with mongers, because korgs like Silicon Valley startups change every few years, but I think POs hang around a lot longer like startup engineers do.

If mongers had stories on ampreviews that a certain PO (many read ampreviews) didn't destroy their pics, IDs and they got disclosed to public, it would seriously hurt their very lucrative PO business. Most POs appear to be full or partial owners of Korgs. I don't think PO owners want to hire PO help, because it helps newbie POs learn the ropes so they can start their own Korg.

Your picture is probably on security video in lots of apts that Korgs use. Apt management doesn't want to make it public for privacy of residents, but someone might hack or gain access. In my experience some individual apts have been used by multiple korgs, but I think now the orgs try to cooperate to minimize monger traffic. I know that LSC seems to use a different apt for each pair of providers, but I might be wrong.

There are lots of ways your picture/ID associated with the hobby could get out there to your detriment. Anti-prostition or socio paths enjoying ruining people could stake out these apts, take pictures of mongers and pics of car including license plate. It's not hard, just takes time. The pictures and ID isn't evidence or that useful and can't be published by police unless arrested.

If you are bbfs or even bbbj, there is s way more significant risk of getting a symptomless STD like chlamydia and giving it to your SO. I recently heard of one bbfs guy who got something, but luckily didn't get in trouble.

I think mongers blank out the very large risks they are taking with the hobby, mostly with SO, but also with work and family if their hobby is found out. These large risks they have virtually no control over, so when they have a choice to say no to a new smaller risk like giving LSC their picture, all that frustrated lack of control gets piled on to it making it seem a much bigger risk than it is. By saying "No" to the small risk makes it feel like you have control over the more serious larger risk. It's how fear works - to expend large efforts no matter how ineffective to escape the terrible thing you are afraid of.

This is also the reason there is a lot of interest in any LE associated with the hobby due to the underlying larger outing fear, which tends to inflate any related fear. With LE there is this mostly unfounded fear that if the korgs get busted mongers will get outed.

In Silicon Valley considering the income of mongers mentioned elsewhere, if they get outed by the police, the police will probably face a big lawsuit, and guys will get fired. Look at what happened in Fort Lauderdale with Robert Kraft and about 3 dozen others video taped at massge parlor in Jupiter, Florida who are now sueing the police for stupidly video taping them without permission.
https://apnews.com/article/ebcd3b95d39947bbbbb5157ab070e7b0
Notably, the clients got off, but the providers had to pay big fines.

Full disclosure - I don't have an SO, my liberal friends have no issue which I think because I don't have fear it lets me think more rationally about the risks. I think modern society should accept that probably half of all guys and women are sexually polygamous, and getting caught having extramarital sex shouldn't alone lead to divorce. It's more beneficial to me to have more mongers which drives more providers, more choices for me.

I don't have a burner which is also a risk if discovered. I hope you guys have a good explanation, like you use it for dealing drugs, which is probably less serious to your SO than it's real use.

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