I've seen Dr Pat twice. Once was enough. As others have said, the edging is very enjoyable. On my second visit, I donated a little more for upgraded service that went beyond the nude massage option. It was just meh. Pat is in her mid-seventies, at least, and IMHO looks it. If appearance isn't an issue or if you are really into older grannies, Pat is worth one visit to check her off your list.