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Open letter to mods on BB and STDs
- Thread starter cool313
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Just a die hard realist. Look at the conversations we take place in here. Look at the topics on the topic boards. If you want to realized just what a bunch of depraved animals we are .. consider sitting down in a room of your peers and telling them all to open up this awesome website u are a member of and join you in scrolling through the topics. That would be am awesome social experiment..
Can u really tell me that every day u don't read something that makes u just shake your head and say I can't believe I am not just reading this as a bystander ( which I did for a while) but I'm a contributor! I do think that. Lol
Can u really tell me that every day u don't read something that makes u just shake your head and say I can't believe I am not just reading this as a bystander ( which I did for a while) but I'm a contributor! I do think that. Lol
Is it just me who thinks that anyone that uses the word "simp", was running around calling everyone they disagree with "snowflakes" 5 years ago?
I think for me the real question/issue is whether you are 100 percent sure you are right, given the damage this accusation can cause. For instance- there is this girl I know who I believe is likely to have HSV-1. This is because although she is a HE and massage girl, she knows i like to kiss and she conforms to me wishes normally, but wears a mask other times and has shown me sores/blisters.
If I reviewed her here (I can't - she is a provider in Seoul) I would state the facts as i saw them.
1. normally she provides DFK
2. she didnt this time- and showed me a sore on her lips
I wouldnt say she had HSV1 - i dont know that for certain. But I'd expect a halfway intelligent person to draw the connection. Likewise if an otherwise healthy young lady disappears for a couple months and she tells you it is for medical/health reasons, unless she comes back with new man made additions you can report it just like that.
I get tested all the time, virtually once a month. If i only had sex with one girl in between tests and i was negative one time and positive the next, I would most definitely turn that in. But i dont just have sex with one girl a month, and its never happened.
I think for me the real question/issue is whether you are 100 percent sure you are right, given the damage this accusation can cause. For instance- there is this girl I know who I believe is likely to have HSV-1. This is because although she is a HE and massage girl, she knows i like to kiss and she conforms to me wishes normally, but wears a mask other times and has shown me sores/blisters.
If I reviewed her here (I can't - she is a provider in Seoul) I would state the facts as i saw them.
1. normally she provides DFK
2. she didnt this time- and showed me a sore on her lips
I wouldnt say she had HSV1 - i dont know that for certain. But I'd expect a halfway intelligent person to draw the connection. Likewise if an otherwise healthy young lady disappears for a couple months and she tells you it is for medical/health reasons, unless she comes back with new man made additions you can report it just like that.
I get tested all the time, virtually once a month. If i only had sex with one girl in between tests and i was negative one time and positive the next, I would most definitely turn that in. But i dont just have sex with one girl a month, and its never happened.
As described above, this is an instant ban. Everyone knows that "I hate hot food" is the excuse teens give parents when they have their first herps outbreak, but when a provider uses it, and texts you pictures of her open sores, it's taken 100% as truth. Best advice, let others catch whatever they catch, this kind of intel is so dangerous that it cannot be mentioned. Being halfway intelligent or a common sense person is no always enjoyed by the others.
[QUOTE="markkennedy, post: 1225379, member: 231100]this kind of intel is so dangerous that it cannot be mentioned. /QUOTE]
I think that is the core of this debate.
If you value a provider's reputation above monger safety, then this point of view makes sense. I've been clear where I stand on that.
To be honest, I don't even find such intel to be really harmful to the girls. These girls change shops, names and cities constantly. And there are new marks born every day.
As an example, there are Vegas scammers who have been "providing" for 10yrs+ with trash reputations, they just change their working name and phone number every few months so reviews can't be traced back to them. Also, most mongers don't read or write reviews.
I think that is the core of this debate.
If you value a provider's reputation above monger safety, then this point of view makes sense. I've been clear where I stand on that.
To be honest, I don't even find such intel to be really harmful to the girls. These girls change shops, names and cities constantly. And there are new marks born every day.
As an example, there are Vegas scammers who have been "providing" for 10yrs+ with trash reputations, they just change their working name and phone number every few months so reviews can't be traced back to them. Also, most mongers don't read or write reviews.
I haven't had time to read all 8 pages of comments, but will address the OP the best way I can. Keep in mind that the ONLY person who has the power to decide what is acceptable on the site is TJ, as the admin of the site.
1) BB talk is not forbidden. Which is another way of saying it's (discreetly) allowed. That said, at a minimum, we'd like for it to stay under the radar as much as possible, given the potential complications it can cause. We definitely discourage its discussion in public comments and discussions (i.e., accessible to the entire Internet). By keeping it in the private details of a review, or in the private access section, or in PMs (private messages), the only 3 places that are NOT available to the general public, keeps it only amongst members with active review balances. Even then, my personal philosophy is discretion over valor.
Yes, this board is for us members and not for anyone else, and yes, it's for information and intel sharing. But there's a fine line between being too vague vs. being too detailed/graphic. The old-timers will know that in the early days of boards like these, certain topics like BB talk was/is taboo. It was just one of those things that was known but wasn't really acknowledge, for a variety of reasons. And there's quite a few reasons...mongers lie and embellish, just like providers lie and embellish, feelings get hurt when both mongers and providers find out the other weren't being truthful (provider: "I only do this for you" or monger: "I only do this with you and I'm totally clean", many don't want their services or partaken of services be publicly known, etc. etc. The point is, there are some things better left unsaid. Sure, transparency is good in most cases, but due to the very nature of this hobby, it's not exactly the same as reviewing your local restaurant or your latest tech purchase.
2) STD discussions are allowed as well. What is forbidden is claiming that you received an STD or STI from a specific provider. It's because there are FAR TOO MANY variables to try to pin down and make a public declaration like that. We CANNOT discern how many providers any given monger has been with, nor do we want to...accusations and claims are highly damaging and virtually impossible to prove. That doesn't mean a monger never gets an STI from a provider...but unless that monger ONLY EVER saw JUST ONE PROVIDER ever, and no one else, including non-pros/civilians, for months and months, there is no way to know for sure. And all of us in this hobby know how very rare that would be.
Anyone who partakes in this hobby is taking a risk. If one is paranoid about catching an STD or STI, there are measure you can take to mitigate it (practice only safe, covered activities), but I bet the vast majority won't do it. Why? Because most would rather go ahead and take that risk and enjoy it.
We are not here to police anyone, but we also do not want to condone accusations that we cannot verify. So the decision was made to not allow it at all. There is no amount of discussion or debate that will force a change in policy of that rule, and while you can keep talking about it, it's not going to happen. If that doesn't work for anyone, there are plenty of other sites out there where anything goes...we are not that.
In your example of just 1 in 10 reports being true, there's a fairly crappy way to go about business. That means that 9 accusations will be false, which would lead to mayhem. We are not a warning site, nor a verification site, nor anything other than an entertainment site, filled with fictional stories. Period.
1) BB talk is not forbidden. Which is another way of saying it's (discreetly) allowed. That said, at a minimum, we'd like for it to stay under the radar as much as possible, given the potential complications it can cause. We definitely discourage its discussion in public comments and discussions (i.e., accessible to the entire Internet). By keeping it in the private details of a review, or in the private access section, or in PMs (private messages), the only 3 places that are NOT available to the general public, keeps it only amongst members with active review balances. Even then, my personal philosophy is discretion over valor.
Yes, this board is for us members and not for anyone else, and yes, it's for information and intel sharing. But there's a fine line between being too vague vs. being too detailed/graphic. The old-timers will know that in the early days of boards like these, certain topics like BB talk was/is taboo. It was just one of those things that was known but wasn't really acknowledge, for a variety of reasons. And there's quite a few reasons...mongers lie and embellish, just like providers lie and embellish, feelings get hurt when both mongers and providers find out the other weren't being truthful (provider: "I only do this for you" or monger: "I only do this with you and I'm totally clean", many don't want their services or partaken of services be publicly known, etc. etc. The point is, there are some things better left unsaid. Sure, transparency is good in most cases, but due to the very nature of this hobby, it's not exactly the same as reviewing your local restaurant or your latest tech purchase.
2) STD discussions are allowed as well. What is forbidden is claiming that you received an STD or STI from a specific provider. It's because there are FAR TOO MANY variables to try to pin down and make a public declaration like that. We CANNOT discern how many providers any given monger has been with, nor do we want to...accusations and claims are highly damaging and virtually impossible to prove. That doesn't mean a monger never gets an STI from a provider...but unless that monger ONLY EVER saw JUST ONE PROVIDER ever, and no one else, including non-pros/civilians, for months and months, there is no way to know for sure. And all of us in this hobby know how very rare that would be.
Anyone who partakes in this hobby is taking a risk. If one is paranoid about catching an STD or STI, there are measure you can take to mitigate it (practice only safe, covered activities), but I bet the vast majority won't do it. Why? Because most would rather go ahead and take that risk and enjoy it.
We are not here to police anyone, but we also do not want to condone accusations that we cannot verify. So the decision was made to not allow it at all. There is no amount of discussion or debate that will force a change in policy of that rule, and while you can keep talking about it, it's not going to happen. If that doesn't work for anyone, there are plenty of other sites out there where anything goes...we are not that.
In your example of just 1 in 10 reports being true, there's a fairly crappy way to go about business. That means that 9 accusations will be false, which would lead to mayhem. We are not a warning site, nor a verification site, nor anything other than an entertainment site, filled with fictional stories. Period.
Thanks for your reply. Respectfully, all information on this site is impossible to verify by that standard so I don't see why a ban should exist it pertains to a girl that may have an STD.
This site functions on good faith, discretion, and proper moderation. There's no reason that wouldn't be applied to managing STD suspicions and accusations that would be incredibly useful to this community.
My stance has always been this board is for the customers first, and then the girls (including their reputations) second. That standard seems to apply to every topic except STDs, which really helps nobody.
This site functions on good faith, discretion, and proper moderation. There's no reason that wouldn't be applied to managing STD suspicions and accusations that would be incredibly useful to this community.
My stance has always been this board is for the customers first, and then the girls (including their reputations) second. That standard seems to apply to every topic except STDs, which really helps nobody.
Because motherfuckers are liars. There are a lot of reasons to lie about a hoe having something.
Shit. I've seen it twice with proof.
No you should not be able to ruin a girl's livelihood with zero fucking evidence.
Mods are correct.
Fucking look at a girl's pussy and see if you see anything and bail.
If you go bbfs then you admit you take on the risk of getting the clap or the gun. Deal with it.
I got tested recently and tested out clean.
Shit. I've seen it twice with proof.
No you should not be able to ruin a girl's livelihood with zero fucking evidence.
Mods are correct.
Fucking look at a girl's pussy and see if you see anything and bail.
If you go bbfs then you admit you take on the risk of getting the clap or the gun. Deal with it.
I got tested recently and tested out clean.
Yeah, his reply was expected from somebody who brags about their BB activities in their reviews. I have a running theory that the only posters that want to keep this info hidden are risky themselves (and this don't want to reduce the risk for others) or have already caught something from a girl at one time or another a figure why warm others when nobody warned them.
Simping hard.
Simping hard.