Agree with OP in general. I normally can muster 1 shot these days for an hr appt although I do like trying for a second. So I normally spend more time in foreplay and making out prior to sex. Is the recommendation not to visit orgs that up charge OR not to pay for upcharges? While I prefer an all inclusive session, I may be ok doing a session with a particular girl (in an org that upcharges) but not partaking in upcharge items.