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My rhoughts on FAKE MONGER REVIEWS

Baiter

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Its sad to say that after reading some (not all) of these reviews, I'm starting to think that some of them are grossly exaggerated in the age and description areas.

These reviews should be an accurate account of what the monger saw and his personal experience.

These reviews are a way for other mongers to be conscience of with who or where he wants to spend his money.

The most common bit of " fake news" is in the estimation of age and description.

I've seen " old" , " just plain old" , "70-100", "young" , "umpa lumpa", " huge","small"," short", " tall", etc. All of these adjectives are great but many time see to lack revelvace depending on the age, height, and preferences of the person reading the review.

A number of times I have read a review and have been disappointed because it's not what I expected based on the review. That's just as bad as the provider who lures you in with face picture and great wording of thing she can't do and or doesn't provide.
 

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yes. and some are clearly written by providers or MMS to get access to read full reviews so they can see what is being posted about their providers.
This can be a good thing if providers and Mamasans are reading our reviews as well. This may spark encouragement to provide better service to mongers who spend hard earned .one and leave frustrated over inferior service. But ultimately it is our responsibility to call out and bann those from our pockets who provide inferior service no matter how " pretty" they are. Some guys may be inclined to give a NO recommendation for superficial reasons instead of performance issues. What's important is, " can she get the job done". If it's a 90 year old with a wrinkled face who tries to deep throats and a hot curvy AV model who only sucks the tip of the head and makes great eye contact , it's a no brainer for me.
Happy mongering and be safe
 

Baiter

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yes. and some are clearly written by providers or MMS to get access to read full reviews so they can see what is being posted about their providers.
Most of the ads we see are bait and switch anyway, even some that claim real photos. We walk into the game knowing this but as well going back to the original topic we should report accurately.
 

hhnyc77

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yes. and some are clearly written by providers or MMS to get access to read full reviews so they can see what is being posted about their providers.
I don't really think that's the case, though it's hard to know for sure. But from my experience, MMS/providers/owners/agencies generally just pay for access here, without having to write reviews. Some of them do have pro paid shills to write glowing reviews for them, and some provide discounts or free sessions for positive reviews.

The problem is that it's hard to definitively call out fake reviews beyond a suspicion, though there are a few exceptions here and there. The board's official stance is that it is not responsible for rooting out fake reviews, and leave that to our members. We want every member to do their due diligence when trying to deduce the credibility of any review or member.

The board also doesn't want to get into the problem of false accusations flying around. Besides, even if we banned known or suspected shills, they will just come back with a new handle and continue their ways...it's a game of whac-a-mole. It's almost better to keep them here and know who they are...keep your enemies close kind of thing...knowing who they are is better than having no clue at all, no?

As a member and hobbyist myself, I always tell people to review the reviewer...look at their posting and review history. Do they only review one shop (or just a handful, related shops) repeatedly? Are all their reviews glowing and they never have a bad session? Do they claim every single provider they meet is mid 20s with a flawless body and amazing service? Do they adamantly defend a particular shop? Do they seem to attack or hold a grudge against a particular shop? So on, and so forth.

We do realize that it takes a bit of work, but everyone needs to do their own homework. Make a mental note of those members who you've come to trust. Use the PM function liberally (which is one of the most valuable tools our members have at their disposal). Offer intel and helpful info and befriend dudes here...that's how you earn credibility and develop your own network here.

Look, fake reviews are a HUGE problem for any customer facing ecommerce/services type establishment, and we're not immune to that. But there are ways to combat that in a number of various ways.
 

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I don't really think that's the case, though it's hard to know for sure. But from my experience, MMS/providers/owners/agencies generally just pay for access here, without having to write reviews. Some of them do have pro paid shills to write glowing reviews for them, and some provide discounts or free sessions for positive reviews.

The problem is that it's hard to definitively call out fake reviews beyond a suspicion, though there are a few exceptions here and there. The board's official stance is that it is not responsible for rooting out fake reviews, and leave that to our members. We want every member to do their due diligence when trying to deduce the credibility of any review or member.

The board also doesn't want to get into the problem of false accusations flying around. Besides, even if we banned known or suspected shills, they will just come back with a new handle and continue their ways...it's a game of whac-a-mole. It's almost better to keep them here and know who they are...keep your enemies close kind of thing...knowing who they are is better than having no clue at all, no?

As a member and hobbyist myself, I always tell people to review the reviewer...look at their posting and review history. Do they only review one shop (or just a handful, related shops) repeatedly? Are all their reviews glowing and they never have a bad session? Do they claim every single provider they meet is mid 20s with a flawless body and amazing service? Do they adamantly defend a particular shop? Do they seem to attack or hold a grudge against a particular shop? So on, and so forth.

We do realize that it takes a bit of work, but everyone needs to do their own homework. Make a mental note of those members who you've come to trust. Use the PM function liberally (which is one of the most valuable tools our members have at their disposal). Offer intel and helpful info and befriend dudes here...that's how you earn credibility and develop your own network here.

Look, fake reviews are a HUGE problem for any customer facing ecommerce/services type establishment, and we're not immune to that. But there are ways to combat that in a number of various ways.
Well said, I totally agree. Thanks for sharing such critical information
 

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I'm sorry but I find most of the exaggeration comes from the members. Look at the indy reviews and then click on the links. 99% are the filthiest hogs I have ever seen and guys are saying... need to put her on my to do list. Guys post a review claiming 20 or 30 and she's 45 or 50. This isn't fake reviews. It's pure bad judgement.. and some guys say good body and she is a hippo. This portion of the site is so random. I look at 90% of women 35 or older in this world and say. Man I wouldn't fuck that broad. However almost most of them are married and some dude is thinking ... boy I can't wait to get her naked... this is so subjective. I think the error lies mostly in judgement and taste and not in attempted deception. Take 10 minutes and look at the links posted. Crack whores ... and guys say attractive, clean, good body.

I find that 80% of this information is so subjective that it's inaccurate. Don't say that to be a dick. Been to probably 50 places over the years and seen it all. ( found this site not too long ago so save the comments about why I didn't post 50 reviews please.. was alao banned immediately after finding the site got back on not long ago.) In 25 years I have seen a few very very hot women. Most are Euros .. few very good looking Asian. All 10 years older than people say they are At a minimum. So all of the reviews claiming super hot Asian. To me they don't exist. I am not saying there aren't beautiful Asians. Just not many I consider smoking hot. AND THEN AGAIN WHOS TO SAY MY TASTE IN WOMEN IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL. OR PROPERLY AGES THEM.
 

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I'm sorry but I find most of the exaggeration comes from the members. Look at the indy reviews and then click on the links. 99% are the filthiest hogs I have ever seen and guys are saying... need to put her on my to do list. Guys post a review claiming 20 or 30 and she's 45 or 50. This isn't fake reviews. It's pure bad judgement.. and some guys say good body and she is a hippo. This portion of the site is so random. I look at 90% of women 35 or older in this world and say. Man I wouldn't fuck that broad. However almost most of them are married and some dude is thinking ... boy I can't wait to get her naked... this is so subjective. I think the error lies mostly in judgement and taste and not in attempted deception. Take 10 minutes and look at the links posted. Crack whores ... and guys say attractive, clean, good body.

I find that 80% of this information is so subjective that it's inaccurate. Don't say that to be a dick. Been to probably 50 places over the years and seen it all. ( found this site not too long ago so save the comments about why I didn't post 50 reviews please.. was alao banned immediately after finding the site got back on not long ago.) In 25 years I have seen a few very very hot women. Most are Euros .. few very good looking Asian. All 10 years older than people say they are At a minimum. So all of the reviews claiming super hot Asian. To me they don't exist. I am not saying there aren't beautiful Asians. Just not many I consider smoking hot. AND THEN AGAIN WHOS TO SAY MY TASTE IN WOMEN IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL. OR PROPERLY AGES THEM.
 

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You're right, descriptions are very subjective. But by adding critical information mongers can assss the situation better than with insufficient adjective. She's tall...wtf give an idea of the height, or my favorite "umpa lumpa" which is a description of someone very fat... Estimate how many pounds, " just plain huge" ... give a number with a bra cup size. Shes old... how old 25 yrs old?, 50 yrs old? Adjectives describe the noun but usually not clear enough because everyone's version is based on what they look to as their ideal or where thy stand. I'm almost 60 yrs so a 45 yrs old woman is my junior but to a 20 yr old reviewing her, "she's old". Now if he doesn't indicate an age or grossly exaggerated and says 70-100 it's inaccurate and misleading to other mongers particularly mongers who are of that age group.the term " granny" is now being applied to women who are 40 plus. The veige adjectives need more support to give a clearer picture to create a more accurate report.
 

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I'm sorry but I find most of the exaggeration comes from the members. Look at the indy reviews and then click on the links. 99% are the filthiest hogs I have ever seen and guys are saying... need to put her on my to do list. Guys post a review claiming 20 or 30 and she's 45 or 50. This isn't fake reviews. It's pure bad judgement.. and some guys say good body and she is a hippo. This portion of the site is so random. I look at 90% of women 35 or older in this world and say. Man I wouldn't fuck that broad. However almost most of them are married and some dude is thinking ... boy I can't wait to get her naked... this is so subjective. I think the error lies mostly in judgement and taste and not in attempted deception. Take 10 minutes and look at the links posted. Crack whores ... and guys say attractive, clean, good body.

I find that 80% of this information is so subjective that it's inaccurate. Don't say that to be a dick. Been to probably 50 places over the years and seen it all. ( found this site not too long ago so save the comments about why I didn't post 50 reviews please.. was alao banned immediately after finding the site got back on not long ago.) In 25 years I have seen a few very very hot women. Most are Euros .. few very good looking Asian. All 10 years older than people say they are At a minimum. So all of the reviews claiming super hot Asian. To me they don't exist. I am not saying there aren't beautiful Asians. Just not many I consider smoking hot. AND THEN AGAIN WHOS TO SAY MY TASTE IN WOMEN IS WHAT IS ACTUALLY BEAUTIFUL. OR PROPERLY AGES THEM.
That is the rule when trying to determine the age of Asian providers. How old do they look, and then add 10 years. Goes for civvies too.
 

markkennedy

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Is 100% true the case of subjective vs outright "fake review". I enjoy very much mombods, fat ladies never, and spinners not so much. So of course I'm going to fawn over a mombod lady in a review and maybe not so much about a spinner, while my spinner aficionado pals will say the exact opposite. The key is to be as descriptive in the description field, so that you are drawing a picture, no an opinion, so that others can get that picture in their heads and make correct decision for themselves. Like a fat lady, how do you describe a fat lady if you are into fat ladies? How do you describe a fat lady if you think about throwing up when you see a fat lady? If writing review correctly, would be same exact way.

The age thing I just ask the girls. Is impossible to guess correctly, so I stopped trying. Everyone says for Chinese add ten years to your guess, and it seems about right, but again I stopped guessing. Also for this, is subjective. One guy says he can't even look at a 35+ lady, while for me I enjoy gals who are in the 40-60 range the most. Is completely subjective. So writing in the age estimate part "old lady", the first guy this could mean 35, while for me it might mean 65+. My children are all now in their 20s, so for me "young girl" might mean someone in her 20s, while our older members might call my wife, 47, a young girl lol!

As other mentioned, the reviews are best effort at describing the girl and the store and the events. We are all people, all have bias and subjectivity, and few of us are writers. Always verify the information given. In some cases can get this via website, or texting MMS, or sending a PM to the review author to clarify, or googling the phone number, etc. If a dude says "big", I always clarify if "big" meant mombod or fat lady. One will result in me texting while driving to location, other will result in me moving on.
 

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One more thing I think is relevant to this convo is the reviewers themselves. We have a very wide range of members' ages here. From 20s to 80s and everything in between. Heck there may even be 18/19 year olds and 90+ year olds I am not aware of, the membership base is large and wide, last I looked it was something like 145,000.

That said - an older guy in his 70s and 80s will view almost all providers as young compared to him. While some younger members think a woman in her 30s is over the hill.

Everyone has a different style, but when I do my reviews, I try to clearly state when things are my opinion, or when I am unsure if the service I received is standard and I'll slip in the "YMMV" strategically in order to stress this may not be happening for everyone. Or maybe it is, I really don't know.

But as others have said - the best thing to do is, get to know the reviewers' and their styles. If you read a review, and visit that provider, feel free to post your own review as well as referencing any intel you based your visit off of and whether you felt it was right or wrong. It's possible to disagree nicely, the goal should never to be bash others, but we all won't like the same stuff or agree on a provider's age. That's a source of opinion unless you saw her Photo ID.

One other thing I will say... I know some guys get free house fee or other discounts for favorable reviews. It becomes pretty obvious because it turns into a trend. When you spot that, best to ignore that review and look for others before making your decision.

I only speak for myself, but, there have been times I have been given discounts due to my frequent flier status. I personally never adjust a review based on that. Nor have I ever been asked to. If I was, I would not comply. While people won't always agree with my opinion, at least they should know I do my best to give my experience and opinion on the provider's service as accurately and completely as possible. That way it offers everyone the greatest amount of value.
 

VJLUTZ

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That is the rule when trying to determine the age of Asian providers. How old do they look, and then add 10 years. Goes for civvies too.
It also helps to view them in something other than dim spa-room lights. Direct sunlight is best if you can swing it. Amount of tit sag is also a good indicator.
 

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It also helps to view them in something other than dim spa-room lights. Direct sunlight is best if you can swing it. Amount of tit sag is also a good indicator.
With all of these women getting MM tits there's no tit sag to judge. As well genetics kick in. Do you remember the girl in your 7th grade class who had huge full hangers while the other girl had small saggy tits. I usually look at the hands and the neck if I can't tell from the face. The skin tends to be slacker in those two areas even when the face seems youthful.
 

bluebells

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When expectations are drawn high by shills and the average monger doesn't bother to write their own, we are basically left with advertisements.
I see a problem with some shills going into a review and picking at that reviewer's negative points when it counters their own. This discourages active participation and more rounded reviews.
 

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I am suspicious an owner asked a monger here to write a glowing review. When I went to see the girl turns out she wasn't young... More like 40 years old.
 
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