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Masculinity in the new millennium.
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I was not a fan of RJ. At best I could tolerate him in movies; most of the time though, watching him made me nauseous. And its not like he had a glowing personality either. I did see some footage of him back in the Seventies. He looked pretty good then, so can kind of understand how he got his start. But once he went to pot, he should have been ejected from the biz. The only way I can explain his enduring appeal is that maybe he was there to show that even fat, unattractive guys could score hot chicks.
10% tops.
It's like the richter scale, though not exactly logarithmic.
Just from my observations and rough estimates from being on this earth for nearly 58 years:
1/10 thru 6/10 - 85% of women
7/10 - top 15%
8/10 - top 10%
9/10 - top 2%
10/10 - top 0.0001%
Or something like that.
The difference between a 5 and a 6 is maybe 10 to 15 pounds.
They both have rather plain faces.
That woman who played the receptionist/secretary on the office is classic 5.
When she was younger she possible could have been a 6...if she was no heavier than 110 lbs.
But with that face of hers 6 was the highest she was ever going to be.
It's like the richter scale, though not exactly logarithmic.
Just from my observations and rough estimates from being on this earth for nearly 58 years:
1/10 thru 6/10 - 85% of women
7/10 - top 15%
8/10 - top 10%
9/10 - top 2%
10/10 - top 0.0001%
Or something like that.
The difference between a 5 and a 6 is maybe 10 to 15 pounds.
They both have rather plain faces.
That woman who played the receptionist/secretary on the office is classic 5.
When she was younger she possible could have been a 6...if she was no heavier than 110 lbs.
But with that face of hers 6 was the highest she was ever going to be.
But does it really surprise? Is cuckoldry more than a degree or two away from femdom, findom, bdsm, going to the lamp store, any of the other somewhat wider known and common forms of men degrading themselves? Cuckoldry is nothing I can really see why a dude would want to do this, but I'd equate it with those other items that I see are popular but I don't get it. All these are perfect examples of modern men not enjoying their gender roles, and assisting the population collapse. Just to be clear, there is a vast vast ocean between swinging slash swapping and cuckoldry. If I make my wife blow ten of my pals, this is no the same psychological thing as her "taking time away" from her job then spending that time fucking dudes from the grocery store and telling you about it. lulz all round though
What constitutes an "8" to a man runs the gamut. Your 8 might be my 4 or 5 and vice versa. And when we look for an 8 (that's a silly gauge anyway---I think in most men's minds they want a girl they find attractive without attaching a number to it) and intend her to be a life partner we should know that 8 is only to stay an 8 for x amount of years. So in the end looks are fleeting and men's superficiality ends up standing in our own way of possible long-term happiness, as if looks and looks alone is the sole and only reason to remain with a woman for life.
I always found Ron Jeremy fascinating because he was so repulsive looking and yet he was banging all these beautiful girls I could never imagine getting at the time as a kid.
The cognitive dissonance of it appealed to me both as a way to help me think maybe regular joes can bang hot amazing girls, knocking stunning unapproachable girls off their pedestal, and also as a circus freak show.
The cognitive dissonance of it appealed to me both as a way to help me think maybe regular joes can bang hot amazing girls, knocking stunning unapproachable girls off their pedestal, and also as a circus freak show.
If you're a porn producer or distributor, you make what sells, and when what you make sells, you make more of it. As a guy who grew up in the late 70s and early 80s, I can say with absolute certainty that most of the men I knew of who were my dad's age looked just like Ron Jeremy. Medium looking face, hair, hairy body, little round in the middle. But all of them were getting ladies, and if they were buying porn, I would suspect they preferred to watch pornos that had dudes just like themselves in them. So yea Ron embodied his customer base and that's why he was one of the kings of that time in porno. Is of course an illusion, since it's not likely that those young bimbos he banged in the films would have given him the time of day if it weren't for the 900 bucks they got for the shoot, which in 1980 LA was a month's rent and two week ends of blow. But the illusion is what sold the films. When I got ahold of dad's pornos in my teens, Ron Jeremy, Joey Silvera, Jeff Stryker, Rocco Siffredi, Tom Byron, Paul Thomas, all pretty average looking dudes, they reinforced the illusion that everyone can get chicks whether you're a 10 or a 5, just takes presence.
To that point, and the point of this topic, men today don't have presence. For all of history, eight thousand generations, what did men do to get chicks and what did chicks look for in mates? Our genes say our only mission in our lives is to produce 2.5 children and ensure they also produce 2.5 children. Whether through feeding them, keeping them healthy, and giving them the skills training, men and women have roles in this operation to ensure continued population. What does a typical 20 year old today offer a female to this end? When you see a pretty cute 20 year old woman with some piece of shit neckbeard, does it appear she is considering her genetic mission? A man with presence, everyone around him knows, even without knowing him or anything about him, that he has a job, he is successful in his endeavors (even if it takes him a thousand tries), he fights for himself and his people, and he will fill every woman with all the strong healthy babies she could ever want.
Young men today are not honoring their genetic mission. Young men in their late teens and early 20s shouldn't have enough time to be playing video games and watching the youtube and posting on the instagram. They should be honing their craft, in their occupation and in their sexual lives. Spend every moment becoming stronger in your role in the workplace, and become stronger in your place among the other men of the community to get women, and above all these, demonstrating this behavior and the successful results to every other male so they may learn to earn success themselves. Everything else is bullshit things that you can do once you've placed yourself in your career and produced children. I play on the internet like 3 hours a day, I play video games, I play in bands, I play sports, I might spend a whole week end at the range shooting guns, I do all kinds of things I want to do. But I've already had a successful career and I already made five babies, two of which are about to have their own babies. So mission accomplished and I can do whatever I want to do. My oldest son found a nice Turkmen lady who will produce excellent children for him, and my middle daughter has a husband who used to work for me both in the Army and then at Merrill, a man I'd be proud to have among my sons. Their children will all be tall and strong and will get the same values I gave to my children and which my grandfather gave to me, and his grandfather gave to him, all the way back.
Modern culture turning its back on what has worked for 200 millennia is destroying the birth rate, which produces population collapse.
Young women today are not honoring their genetic mission. Young women in their late teens and early 20s spend WAY too much time watching handbag videos on instagram and worrying about which bakkaball man that lady on the internet is dating. If a woman knows the difference between a lineup of shoes but doesn't know how to make a meatloaf, she is trash and has failed in her mission. If she has fifty tattoos at a few hundred dollars apiece but no pots and pans or a sewing kit, she has already failed. She will never produce children who can also produce successful children. Never going to happen. If she picks a mate who is a muscle stud or video gamer or drug dealer but who has no value as a working man and no value as a teacher or representative of male culture, she has failed in her mission, because of course he can impregnate her and children will come out of her pussy, this is biology, but that child will end up in the jail or in the basement forever, and will not produce 2.5 children. My three daughters, they were taught the things women ought to know, they can plan a meal, they can cook a meal, they can manage a household, they can teach their children. But beside knowing everything your stereotypical gender-role female ought to know, two are mid managers in finance and one is an Army intelligence officer after her father. Ladies and boys who whine that woman can't have traditional gender roles AND have successful fulfilling careers and lives is a loser that 100% blames someone else everytime something doesn't work out for them.
Modern culture tells children that if they are not succeeding, it is someone else's fault, and usually the blame goes on people who in every other generation were heroes. Alpha men, prime women, warriors, the employing class, scientists, mechanics, teachers, explorers, pioneers. Today, all of these are oppressors. For people like me, who came here as young children with literally nothing but a 50$ US savings bond and two shirts and a pair of holey sneakers and one pair of pants, believing that everything is someone else's fault and that everyone is an oppressor, this is a concept we not only can't fathom, but which makes us physically ill. Even IF we were to believe someone was our oppressor, every generation for all of time would have seen this as a mission to defeat and overcome, not whine about and beg the feudal lords and Uncle Sugar to help us with.
The underlying thing in all of this is Uncle Sugar. The feudal lords produce a method so that females can live a relaxing comfortable life by letting strangers impregnate them and then walk away. Women can get a check for all of their essentials from the government, as long as they can provide proof that they have a baby who does not have a father. Seems like the easiest and lowest form of employment ever. Get fucked one time, go through 9 months of pregnancy and 12 hours of horrible pain of childbirth, then let that sweet sweet Uncle Sugar money roll in, for life. What role is there for men in this? Fucking? But then what? How can a man compete with the power of the feudal lords? If they offer her 100% paid bills forever, he has some stiff competition. So so many females are accomplishing part 1 of their genetic mission this way, producing children, but failing the second part, rearing these children to produce 2.5 children of their own. Is why the population is collapsing, as we are now in our third generation of the social support system here in the US. There's a hilarious film on the youtube about this, search for "it's free swipe yo ebt", and other hilarious videos featuring a typical 20 something landwhale at "lowincomerelief", all she's missing is the purple hair. Enjoy.
In our religion we believe that the power of our own success is inside us, not in our government not in a magical spaceman not in our boss not in our neighbors, not in anyone else but inside ourselves. We also believe the old story about giving fish and teaching to fish. It is sinful for us to give fish, but it is our obligation to teach men to fish, and I am devout in this belief, living my entire life to teach others to do for themselves and discover the power inside themselves.
To that point, and the point of this topic, men today don't have presence. For all of history, eight thousand generations, what did men do to get chicks and what did chicks look for in mates? Our genes say our only mission in our lives is to produce 2.5 children and ensure they also produce 2.5 children. Whether through feeding them, keeping them healthy, and giving them the skills training, men and women have roles in this operation to ensure continued population. What does a typical 20 year old today offer a female to this end? When you see a pretty cute 20 year old woman with some piece of shit neckbeard, does it appear she is considering her genetic mission? A man with presence, everyone around him knows, even without knowing him or anything about him, that he has a job, he is successful in his endeavors (even if it takes him a thousand tries), he fights for himself and his people, and he will fill every woman with all the strong healthy babies she could ever want.
Young men today are not honoring their genetic mission. Young men in their late teens and early 20s shouldn't have enough time to be playing video games and watching the youtube and posting on the instagram. They should be honing their craft, in their occupation and in their sexual lives. Spend every moment becoming stronger in your role in the workplace, and become stronger in your place among the other men of the community to get women, and above all these, demonstrating this behavior and the successful results to every other male so they may learn to earn success themselves. Everything else is bullshit things that you can do once you've placed yourself in your career and produced children. I play on the internet like 3 hours a day, I play video games, I play in bands, I play sports, I might spend a whole week end at the range shooting guns, I do all kinds of things I want to do. But I've already had a successful career and I already made five babies, two of which are about to have their own babies. So mission accomplished and I can do whatever I want to do. My oldest son found a nice Turkmen lady who will produce excellent children for him, and my middle daughter has a husband who used to work for me both in the Army and then at Merrill, a man I'd be proud to have among my sons. Their children will all be tall and strong and will get the same values I gave to my children and which my grandfather gave to me, and his grandfather gave to him, all the way back.
Modern culture turning its back on what has worked for 200 millennia is destroying the birth rate, which produces population collapse.
Young women today are not honoring their genetic mission. Young women in their late teens and early 20s spend WAY too much time watching handbag videos on instagram and worrying about which bakkaball man that lady on the internet is dating. If a woman knows the difference between a lineup of shoes but doesn't know how to make a meatloaf, she is trash and has failed in her mission. If she has fifty tattoos at a few hundred dollars apiece but no pots and pans or a sewing kit, she has already failed. She will never produce children who can also produce successful children. Never going to happen. If she picks a mate who is a muscle stud or video gamer or drug dealer but who has no value as a working man and no value as a teacher or representative of male culture, she has failed in her mission, because of course he can impregnate her and children will come out of her pussy, this is biology, but that child will end up in the jail or in the basement forever, and will not produce 2.5 children. My three daughters, they were taught the things women ought to know, they can plan a meal, they can cook a meal, they can manage a household, they can teach their children. But beside knowing everything your stereotypical gender-role female ought to know, two are mid managers in finance and one is an Army intelligence officer after her father. Ladies and boys who whine that woman can't have traditional gender roles AND have successful fulfilling careers and lives is a loser that 100% blames someone else everytime something doesn't work out for them.
Modern culture tells children that if they are not succeeding, it is someone else's fault, and usually the blame goes on people who in every other generation were heroes. Alpha men, prime women, warriors, the employing class, scientists, mechanics, teachers, explorers, pioneers. Today, all of these are oppressors. For people like me, who came here as young children with literally nothing but a 50$ US savings bond and two shirts and a pair of holey sneakers and one pair of pants, believing that everything is someone else's fault and that everyone is an oppressor, this is a concept we not only can't fathom, but which makes us physically ill. Even IF we were to believe someone was our oppressor, every generation for all of time would have seen this as a mission to defeat and overcome, not whine about and beg the feudal lords and Uncle Sugar to help us with.
The underlying thing in all of this is Uncle Sugar. The feudal lords produce a method so that females can live a relaxing comfortable life by letting strangers impregnate them and then walk away. Women can get a check for all of their essentials from the government, as long as they can provide proof that they have a baby who does not have a father. Seems like the easiest and lowest form of employment ever. Get fucked one time, go through 9 months of pregnancy and 12 hours of horrible pain of childbirth, then let that sweet sweet Uncle Sugar money roll in, for life. What role is there for men in this? Fucking? But then what? How can a man compete with the power of the feudal lords? If they offer her 100% paid bills forever, he has some stiff competition. So so many females are accomplishing part 1 of their genetic mission this way, producing children, but failing the second part, rearing these children to produce 2.5 children of their own. Is why the population is collapsing, as we are now in our third generation of the social support system here in the US. There's a hilarious film on the youtube about this, search for "it's free swipe yo ebt", and other hilarious videos featuring a typical 20 something landwhale at "lowincomerelief", all she's missing is the purple hair. Enjoy.
In our religion we believe that the power of our own success is inside us, not in our government not in a magical spaceman not in our boss not in our neighbors, not in anyone else but inside ourselves. We also believe the old story about giving fish and teaching to fish. It is sinful for us to give fish, but it is our obligation to teach men to fish, and I am devout in this belief, living my entire life to teach others to do for themselves and discover the power inside themselves.
@markkennedy - That was some rant, but agree with most of what you said. Modern society is too easy and rewards all the wrong behaviors. But it only rewards them to a limited degree. Anyone who is a ward-of-the state is going to live a largely shitty life. The Baby-Mama with no husband will get her check from Uncle Sam, but it will just get her by. She will never have what I would call "a good life" and it will eat away at her psyche. And ditto for her kids. If her kids somehow succeed, it will be in spite of her, not because of her. I know one mid-30s guy who pulled all the strings to get himself SSI disability when he was in his 20s. Mission accomplished, right? Except now he can't get a job without losing his benefits and is a slave to his $500/month check from US. Now, that's what I call a broken person who has totally wasted his potential.
You would think in this environment that any man who showed initiative would do well. But apparently that's not the case. Lots of younger guys on "the right track" seem to be saying they are invisible to civvie women. Why? Because most of the civvie women are chasing that top 5% of men. It's a totally f-ed up situation. And maybe we do need a societal collapse to correct it. But I definitely want to be dead before that happens.
You would think in this environment that any man who showed initiative would do well. But apparently that's not the case. Lots of younger guys on "the right track" seem to be saying they are invisible to civvie women. Why? Because most of the civvie women are chasing that top 5% of men. It's a totally f-ed up situation. And maybe we do need a societal collapse to correct it. But I definitely want to be dead before that happens.
You would have to ascertain what kind of women these guys are chasing.
Lots of basement dwellers dream of bagging Bella Delphine bit ignore the plain Jane's.
And while many have done a fabulous job describing the problem not too many solutions have come up when it comes to helping young men find a place in this new social order.
Lots of basement dwellers dream of bagging Bella Delphine bit ignore the plain Jane's.
And while many have done a fabulous job describing the problem not too many solutions have come up when it comes to helping young men find a place in this new social order.
Honestly I never see this.
Most pretty 20 y/os are either with obnoxious jocks, loudmouth jerks, crappy bar band musicians, bartenders, thuggish bouncers, actual criminal thugs, drug dealers, drug users, or tattooed dirt bike racers.
I wouldn't expect them to be with video game playing neckbeards, but they sure aren't with honest, decent, intelligent, hardworking guys.
And that's been the case since the 80s when I was in my 20s...
Most pretty 20 y/os are either with obnoxious jocks, loudmouth jerks, crappy bar band musicians, bartenders, thuggish bouncers, actual criminal thugs, drug dealers, drug users, or tattooed dirt bike racers.
I wouldn't expect them to be with video game playing neckbeards, but they sure aren't with honest, decent, intelligent, hardworking guys.
And that's been the case since the 80s when I was in my 20s...
Generative AI will solve this issue and create a few more. Design your girlfriend, give her a name, buy a bunch of them, design their personalities, and as you interact ‘she‘/they learn about your likes and dislikes. Of course, you learn nothing.
Link ‘her’ up to an advanced female doll or bot. she may not do the dishes but she will do you. However, once you are done, it is up to you to clean her up. And most guys are not good at cleaning!
https://romanticai.com/
https://sexualalpha.com/best-sex-robots-for-men/
i would stick with only one. More than one and they are bound to fight with each other and talk shit about you.
Link ‘her’ up to an advanced female doll or bot. she may not do the dishes but she will do you. However, once you are done, it is up to you to clean her up. And most guys are not good at cleaning!
https://romanticai.com/
https://sexualalpha.com/best-sex-robots-for-men/
i would stick with only one. More than one and they are bound to fight with each other and talk shit about you.
They will probably have them for women too, starting with an intelligent dildo. It will fuck them and then tell them how beautiful and awesome they are. It will also patiently listen to their endless, vacuous monologues and always make the appropriate responses. But it probably won't mow the lawn for them or carry their grocery bags (at least not at first). And it won't buy them gifts or give them an allowance. In fact, it will probably cost them more than their car.
To me, a GF bot would be just an advanced device to help you masturbate. In the end, your hand + some free porn does the same thing for a lot less money and embarrassment. What I'd find compelling is the ability to feed porn scenarios right into your neurons. In other words, an artificial experience that was indistinguisable from reality. I think they'll develop that capability one day, but I definitely won't live to see it. And that's kind of a good thing as such a device would probably drive the human race to extinction. Or at least all the technologically advanced cultures.
To me, a GF bot would be just an advanced device to help you masturbate. In the end, your hand + some free porn does the same thing for a lot less money and embarrassment. What I'd find compelling is the ability to feed porn scenarios right into your neurons. In other words, an artificial experience that was indistinguisable from reality. I think they'll develop that capability one day, but I definitely won't live to see it. And that's kind of a good thing as such a device would probably drive the human race to extinction. Or at least all the technologically advanced cultures.