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Masculinity in the new millennium.

TIskier

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OK that explains a lot...
. Yup I happily can say there are women in that age range who I find attractive. My SB’s? All in the 19-23 range (some of whom don’t expect payment any more but are clearly seeking a father or professional mentor figure) but I am mindful that a SB/SD relationship can never be at a “Real Relationship” level because of the giant age/culture gap. Therefore I am still happy to enjoy the company of women, though age appropriate, whom I find attractive.
 

Enkidu_10

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Dating apps are definitely a different game... its winner take all so if you aren't super high status and able to signal it, good luck.

Just meet them in the real world where you are only competing with the other guys at the bar/club/work/coffeeshop and not every male in the metro area lol
 

PorterD

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Haha, you’re asking me to explain further because you just can’t fathom a guy exists who isn’t resentful & bitter towards women who seek personal success and who has had positive relations with said women? Wow, it’s sad that we’ve reached that level of cynicism.

Ok, if it helps. Yes, I’m solidly GenX. I work in healthcare in a once male dominated field that is now strongly “manned” with women because for the last two decades woman have shown more dedication and commitment reaching my level of practice. My wife was my age and we started dating in our 20’s (yes, I found her very hot). The women I’ve dated recently are all in the 30-45 range and yes, I find them hot. None have been “American born” as most “American born” people don’t have the drive to go into my profession. It’s too much work. I probably do very well with coworkers because I am good at what I do and people are very attracted watching people perform what they do well which is one of the attractions I usually have with the people I’ve dated.

This all leads back to the idea of self improvement, taking pride in everything you do and treating people generally well until they give you reason not to.

I wish you all luck. My intent is not to criticize or shame but to give hope & provide an alternative (non-cynical) point of view that at the very minimum may lead to someone inspired to improve one facet of their life.
Ok Fair enough. I feel like a lot of what you’re saying is actually making my point for me but you do you. All good. Agree to disagree.

I’m actually not resentful towards women I actually don’t think it’s really a problem with them it’s more of a problem with society. Most of women are more miserable than men as a result of modern feminism.
 

이 회장님

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Dating apps are definitely a different game... its winner take all so if you aren't super high status and able to signal it, good luck.

Just meet them in the real world where you are only competing with the other guys at the bar/club/work/coffeeshop and not every male in the metro area lol
In my experience, there’s fierce competition everywhere.

Clubs such as PHD and Tao have a 7:3 male to female ratio. Lots of men pulling up in nice cars too.

As for the local coffee shops, many SDs have bought them for their SBs (who run the place). So unless the SB is stupid enough to piss it away, she will remain loyal to her SD.

A crazy world we live in. lol
 

Enkidu_10

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In my experience, there’s fierce competition everywhere.

Clubs such as PHD and Tao have a 7:3 male to female ratio. Lots of men pulling up in nice cars too.

As for the local coffee shops, many SDs have bought them for their SBs (who run the place). So unless the SB is stupid enough to piss it away, she will remain loyal to her SD.

A crazy world we live in. lol
Agree that competition is fierce everywhere. But the odds are worse in some places and better in others... Like in a casino the house always has a edge but are you playing Slots (Apps) or Blackjack (Real Life)

For clubs, you can't take the cars inside. I've always found it fun to bring random girls who are waiting in-line inside though when I have a table.

For Coffeeshops I meant the customers more than the staff lol. It's been a while, but a girl actually picked me up there once lol
 

VJLUTZ

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VJ, regarding your last sentence: in my experience as a manager of people here and overseas, overseas being primarily India and China, but also in some European countries, women did not avoid any of those jobs any more than the men did. In fact, in India and China, they were generally more willing and better at them then the men. The men would deny women a job because they (the men) were often physically and mentally lazy and knew they would not compare favorably when it was time for evaluation.

one example of many - I situation where I was shipping out an item that weighed around 45 lbs and the guy who showed up refused to lift it, it was a violation of his belief in some rule about how much he was required to lift, and stood his ground until I told him I would get the lady who carried it down here to lift it for him.

I worked with and for a number of excellent managers, the very best being a woman. She was fair, brilliant, decisive and ’no bullshit’ about things. I have no issues with women in the workforce. They were as good or better then the men. And this ranges to employing all types, from high school graduates to highly advanced, multi degreed individuals.
Well, obviously your experience is different from mine. I have just worked domestically, so can only speak to that. There are SOME very sharp, hard=working women out there, but they are mostly the exceptions. Most women are all about work/life balance, which means they go home at 5PM. Or they play the family or health card to get out of this or that. In contrast, men tend to be more obsessive about tasks whereas women get it to a certain level and then consider it "good enough". I am also not saying men are perfect too. Lots of lazy men and soy-boys out there. I especially hate the passive-aggressive types who slow-roll a task until you are forced to give it to someone else.
 

mikemendez

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The issue was raised about a so called top notch woman and why should she have to settle for a low tier man, well, it’s called equality. We men at times have to settle for an average woman when selecting a wife, this successful woman should too.
 

markkennedy

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My dad's fourth wife, had an adult son who to me is the caricature you would draw if someone said "draw a millennial cuck". The guy is 28, never had a job of any consequence, has no money, lives in mommy's apartment in her living room foldout couch, has a jeep he bought with TWELVE PERCENT interest lmao, and I'm sure his cock goes inside out when a woman talks to him at the grocery store. He inherited 20k when his real father died, and spent it on video games and chinese food. This guy has this beard that is so lmao it's like 5 pubes glued on to one of those white foam heads they use for wigs at the store. I have parts of my face that haven't seen the sun from the beard cover since Reagan was President.

What happening to masculinity? Men who have no father figure and are parented either by womenfolk or by the internet or even worse their government or HR department. My grandfather, I could tell a billion stories about this guy, he is the caricature you would draw if someone said "draw the most alpha motherfucker you can imagine". He always said, if you put one line in the water, ok you may or may not catch a fish for dinner, but if you cast 1000 lines, you will never go hungry. He was referring to pussy of course, implying that if you're a bitch and you can't (or won't!!!!) talk to women, it's very unlikely you will be getting fucked. If you don't ask, you don't get. Lots of dudes today under 30 are bitches. When I meet their wives at the grocery store or at yoga or at the gym, it's super clear that the husband spends more time on his craft beer or call of duty or fantasy football or beard wax than he ever does between her legs. And when they go "OMG my husband never did THAT before," of course I can't deny it, I see the pictures of that guy around the house and he's a bitch.

The females not infected by instagram fantasies of 1000$ handbags, their genes say wow this dude will give me so many awesome healthy babies, or at least make me cum like I don't even know wtf happened.

The civilization is destroyed, by population collapse. Women are supposed to already have had several children by the time they are in mid 20s, not spending 70 hours talking about meetings and emails and emails about spreadsheets and spreadsheets about emails, and men are supposed to be the alpha, conquering the universe in every endeavor, and completing their genetic mission which is to produce 2.5 children and ensure they also produce 2.5 children each. This formula has worked for 200 thousand years, bringing us all from eating whatever we find on the ground and praying to a magic man who carries a golden disc across the sky to almost eight BILLION people with life expectancies that would have covered four generations for most of human history. So, which should we choose, formula which has worked eight thousand generations, or formula which produces men who prefer having their eyebrows plucked and tinted to eating their wives out and women who prefer to masturbate to instagram whores' pocketbook collections and house renovation shows? Women who have purple hair and fuck every piece of shit drug dealer and excon and have five babies with five dudes who spend every year in jail at least once, or formula which has worked for a quarter of a million years?

Seriously, I know it's much different up there in New Yock where there actually ARE alphas and dudes who chicks should be wanting to bang. But here in the Philly burbs, if you have a job and a car and a home you own, and you aren't banging every girl you want to bang, you are absolutely not trying. OR, you're silly and you chase tens and or chicks who you oughtn't to be chasing anyway, drug addicts and hotel sloots.
 

TIskier

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The issue was raised about a so called top notch woman and why should she have to settle for a low tier man, well, it’s called equality. We men at times have to settle for an average woman when selecting a wife, this successful woman should too.
I don’t understand why anyone would “settle” for a partner that they found inadequate. That’s just insane.
 

Doubleyellow

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Well, obviously your experience is different from mine. I have just worked domestically, so can only speak to that. There are SOME very sharp, hard=working women out there, but they are mostly the exceptions. Most women are all about work/life balance, which means they go home at 5PM. Or they play the family or health card to get out of this or that. In contrast, men tend to be more obsessive about tasks whereas women get it to a certain level and then consider it "good enough". I am also not saying men are perfect too. Lots of lazy men and soy-boys out there. I especially hate the passive-aggressive types who slow-roll a task until you are forced to give it to someone else.
that is a key point, VJ. Our experiences are different and a broad stroke of the brush will paint over the finer points. And the devil is in the details.

I am absolutely for women participating in every job at every level. They are taking over the medical professions. Why? I know why, saw it and encouraged it through many of my interactions.

I have 2 professional daughters who are teaching our children of the future, one who runs a class of 24 2nd graders, all of whom have a variety of disabilities/issues originating from genetic to trauma and chaos at home and outside the home. And another who works at a higher level in the educational system, fine tuning programs to meet the higher performing children, and managing the ass hat parents that want to promote their kid while they demote others. Does anyone want to put either of them in a kitchen? And ask a guy to do what they do? Try to find a guy who has the patience, training and stamina to step up….Who is mature enough! Who is not self absorbed and self centered. They taught me a lot.

I won’t apologize for the rant, and won’t join the anti-women tone that dominates this thread. That tone and attitude is bigger problem than the problem that some are bitching about.

And…my bitching is over. I hear all of the various perspectives, but will never blame any woman for my shortcomings or failures.
 

Doubleyellow

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How many women are known as beautiful, accomplished and self sufficient? Yet they have a nasty attitude/personality and not the good or desirable kind of nasty. Feminism is a terrible idea for women. What is a woman? Some don’t know the answer to this question, it’s beyond ridiculous.
Mike, don’t you know that simply buying a skirt, heels and purse make you a woman, while at the same time having a dick doesn’t make you a man?

Joking aside, confusion over sexual identity is a serious and legitimate issue. But legitimate for far fewer individuals than those who have jumped on the bandwagon for attention. The embryologic timing for genital development occurs earlier than the cerebral development of sexual identity, and the epigenetic factors that influence sexual identity, in spite of ones anatomy, are numerous.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0091302211000252
 
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