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Masculinity in the new millennium.
- Thread starter Black_equus
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I wouldn’t date either Oprah or the McDonald’s worker. I would find one unattractive and the other boring. Would I bang the McDonald’s worker? Yep and then I’d part ways it would never be a “relationship” because we would have zero in common and I would bore of her immediately upon ejaculating.
Like “Automatic”, I too have required standards one of which includes being interesting which must include a certain base level of intelligence & ambition. That’s me. I understand and respect that others have different needs.
VJ, regarding your last sentence: in my experience as a manager of people here and overseas, overseas being primarily India and China, but also in some European countries, women did not avoid any of those jobs any more than the men did. In fact, in India and China, they were generally more willing and better at them then the men. The men would deny women a job because they (the men) were often physically and mentally lazy and knew they would not compare favorably when it was time for evaluation.
one example of many - I situation where I was shipping out an item that weighed around 45 lbs and the guy who showed up refused to lift it, it was a violation of his belief in some rule about how much he was required to lift, and stood his ground until I told him I would get the lady who carried it down here to lift it for him.
I worked with and for a number of excellent managers, the very best being a woman. She was fair, brilliant, decisive and ’no bullshit’ about things. I have no issues with women in the workforce. They were as good or better then the men. And this ranges to employing all types, from high school graduates to highly advanced, multi degreed individuals.
one example of many - I situation where I was shipping out an item that weighed around 45 lbs and the guy who showed up refused to lift it, it was a violation of his belief in some rule about how much he was required to lift, and stood his ground until I told him I would get the lady who carried it down here to lift it for him.
I worked with and for a number of excellent managers, the very best being a woman. She was fair, brilliant, decisive and ’no bullshit’ about things. I have no issues with women in the workforce. They were as good or better then the men. And this ranges to employing all types, from high school graduates to highly advanced, multi degreed individuals.
Are you married to a beautiful, successful, highly educated woman or have one as a girlfriend? If a woman like you describe does marry a man her equal she still won’t be happy, she may still want to be the shot caller, she’ll find a way to be miserable. This is a reason they choose a lower tier man, because they want to maintain control, she can’t control a successful man.
I was married for 20!years to a beautiful woman who was in the same profession as I. We made similar salaries and were comfortable enough to own two residences in SF & Manhattan. We split because, as I previously mentioned, I get bored in relationships. Biology takes hold and I seek other women.
When we split, because she was independently successful, she didn’t destroy me financially. We split everything halfsies & maintained a “friendship” to co-raise our kids in a healthy environment. A hot uneducated McDonald’s worker would’ve soaked me.
Since then I’ve had multiple relationships with women who I find physically attractive and all have been in the same profession as well but I’ve come to terms with my problems with monogamy.
When we split, because she was independently successful, she didn’t destroy me financially. We split everything halfsies & maintained a “friendship” to co-raise our kids in a healthy environment. A hot uneducated McDonald’s worker would’ve soaked me.
Since then I’ve had multiple relationships with women who I find physically attractive and all have been in the same profession as well but I’ve come to terms with my problems with monogamy.
I won’t get married because I want to have sex with a variety of women and in my past relationships, I always got caught cheating and instead of pulling a Bill Clinton by telling her “It depends on what your definition of “is” is.”, I just admit it and the relationship ends.
So it’s SA for me and if I strike out, I’ll head over to an amp.
So it’s SA for me and if I strike out, I’ll head over to an amp.
I feel like I need more info. But I’m guessing you have to at least be in your 50’s. Are you dating women in their 50’s? 40’s? 30’s? 20’s? Do they have kids? Previously married?
There is a disconnect somewhere because I’m in an office swarming with women. The ones who are 40+ are generally unattractive. The ones who are between 30-40 are 90% married with kids and are closing in on bring unattractive.
And the young 20 something interns are arrogant, stuck up, high standards and wouldn’t give any guy here the time of day.
There is a disconnect somewhere because I’m in an office swarming with women. The ones who are 40+ are generally unattractive. The ones who are between 30-40 are 90% married with kids and are closing in on bring unattractive.
And the young 20 something interns are arrogant, stuck up, high standards and wouldn’t give any guy here the time of day.
You’ve broken down the category of women perfectly. And I would rather be with the 20-something who are arrogant, stuck up, crazy high standards and will only drink coffee from Starbucks and want Omakase for dinner only because they are young and hot.
And if I strike out (which is very often), I’ll go to an amp.
Bad parenting (such as my sisters) is one of many reasons for this unfortunate trend.
And if I strike out (which is very often), I’ll go to an amp.
Bad parenting (such as my sisters) is one of many reasons for this unfortunate trend.
Haha, you’re asking me to explain further because you just can’t fathom a guy exists who isn’t resentful & bitter towards women who seek personal success and who has had positive relations with said women? Wow, it’s sad that we’ve reached that level of cynicism.
Ok, if it helps. Yes, I’m solidly GenX. I work in healthcare in a once male dominated field that is now strongly “manned” with women because for the last two decades woman have shown more dedication and commitment reaching my level of practice. My wife was my age and we started dating in our 20’s (yes, I found her very hot). The women I’ve dated recently are all in the 30-45 range and yes, I find them hot. None have been “American born” as most “American born” people don’t have the drive to go into my profession. It’s too much work. I probably do very well with coworkers because I am good at what I do and people are very attracted watching people perform what they do well which is one of the attractions I usually have with the people I’ve dated.
This all leads back to the idea of self improvement, taking pride in everything you do and treating people generally well until they give you reason not to.
I wish you all luck. My intent is not to criticize or shame but to give hope & provide an alternative (non-cynical) point of view that at the very minimum may lead to someone inspired to improve one facet of their life.
Ok, if it helps. Yes, I’m solidly GenX. I work in healthcare in a once male dominated field that is now strongly “manned” with women because for the last two decades woman have shown more dedication and commitment reaching my level of practice. My wife was my age and we started dating in our 20’s (yes, I found her very hot). The women I’ve dated recently are all in the 30-45 range and yes, I find them hot. None have been “American born” as most “American born” people don’t have the drive to go into my profession. It’s too much work. I probably do very well with coworkers because I am good at what I do and people are very attracted watching people perform what they do well which is one of the attractions I usually have with the people I’ve dated.
This all leads back to the idea of self improvement, taking pride in everything you do and treating people generally well until they give you reason not to.
I wish you all luck. My intent is not to criticize or shame but to give hope & provide an alternative (non-cynical) point of view that at the very minimum may lead to someone inspired to improve one facet of their life.