LSC prices going up 01/04 ?

[jpowellrulz]

True.

Orgs and their "insiders" often read the active forums and reviews. If you're unhappy about price hikes, if for some reason you've been cutting the orgs slack for a few things you're unhappy about...might be time to voice them now. Just a thought. I think "take it or leave it" paradigm renders mongers a bit too passive. imo.

100% agree with you on this one. Take it or leave it is not the right attitude. These orgs what your business just as much as you do, only way to make it happen is strike right balance from both parties.

What to raise price? Sure. But be upfront about girls pics and no bait & switch. Reminds me of Peach, once a fine org, quickly went downhill. PO sure much be happy with dudes that don't know any better and buy into "with take it" attitude. PO sure ain't getting any of my business with lineup of grannies.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

I hope you realize my take it or leave it comment is not org specific. Its the landscape as a whole. As for the why not raise it to 500 right now.. there's a BIG difference between a $20 hike and an $280 hike. If that needs to be explained to you then I don't know what to tell you. But just watch. Every org will be at 240 by the end of the year. A specific org may disappear but a new one will pop up and they won't be at 220.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

As prices go up, so will expectations. If I were running this business, I would create multi tier pricing. It makes more sense to reap lower profit than to lose out on it completely.

So whats stopping you from opening your own org?

 

[RocketmanAR]

I hope you realize my take it or leave it comment is not org specific. Its the landscape as a whole. As for the why not raise it to 500 right now.. there's a BIG difference between a $20 hike and an $280 hike. If that needs to be explained to you then I don't know what to tell you. But just watch. Every org will be at 240 by the end of the year. A specific org may disappear but a new one will pop up and they won't be at 220.

I agree that all orgs will raise prices. What I don't agree with is the attitude of take it or leave it, as if mongers are powerless. We can at least attempt to make the orgs behave better in terms of scheduling backs to backs and so on, if they are going to raise the prices and if you don't like it.


Again, my message is that if you're unhappy about something with the org, make it known loud and clear in reviews and forums. It's generally not a bad idea to do it regardless, but I know many people will try to make the girls or orgs appear better than they actually are. Maybe if youre unhappy, that's a good wake up call to start calling spade a spade and not be worried to piss off org or a girl.


Just my two cents.

 

[jpowellrulz]

I agree that all orgs will raise prices. What I don't agree with is the attitude of take it or leave it, as if mongers are powerless. We can at least attempt to make the orgs behave better in terms of scheduling backs to backs and so on, if they are going to raise the prices and if you don't like it.


Again, my message is that if you're unhappy about something with the org, make it known loud and clear in reviews and forums. It's generally not a bad idea to do it regardless, but I know many people will try to make the girls or orgs appear better than they actually are. Maybe if youre unhappy, that's a good wake up call to start calling spade a spade and not be worried to piss off org or a girl.


Just my two cents.

Totally, powerless attitude is not the way to carry oneself. Speak out what you don't like and rave what you do. Like I said before, price raise in of itself is not an issues here, too much BS & PS, bait and switch, double booking is, and should not be tolerated. Set the expectations right and pricing won't be an issue. Nobody is stopping girls claiming they make money more in LA than here, if they all do, economics 101 suggest none of them would be here to being with, yet here they are. Don't get sucked in nonsense narratives, yielding yourself left and right.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

I agree that all orgs will raise prices. What I don't agree with is the attitude of take it or leave it, as if mongers are powerless. We can at least attempt to make the orgs behave better in terms of scheduling backs to backs and so on, if they are going to raise the prices and if you don't like it.


Again, my message is that if you're unhappy about something with the org, make it known loud and clear in reviews and forums. It's generally not a bad idea to do it regardless, but I know many people will try to make the girls or orgs appear better than they actually are. Maybe if youre unhappy, that's a good wake up call to start calling spade a spade and not be worried to piss off org or a girl.


Just my two cents.

Ok well lets go back to your earlier point of why not raise it to 500?

What are your options then?

1. Take it - which you - as in you Rocketman - would probably wouldnt.

Or

2. Leave it - which you probably would do.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

Totally, powerless attitude is not the way to carry oneself. Speak out what you don't like and rave what you do. Like I said before, price raise in of itself is not an issues here, too much BS & PS, bait and switch, double booking is, and should not be tolerated. Set the expectations right and pricing won't be an issue. Nobody is stopping girls claiming they make money more in LA than here, if they all do, economics 101 suggest none of them would be here to being with, yet here they are. Don't get sucked in nonsense narratives, yielding yourself left and right.

Again the point is if you cant tollerate any of those issues you layed out, what do you do? You leave it.

 

[tpcal]

100% agree with you on this one. Take it or leave it is not the right attitude. These orgs what your business just as much as you do, only way to make it happen is strike right balance from both parties.

What to raise price? Sure. But be upfront about girls pics and no bait & switch. Reminds me of Peach, once a fine org, quickly went downhill. PO sure much be happy with dudes that don't know any better and buy into "with take it" attitude. PO sure ain't getting any of my business with lineup of grannies.

some would just disregard the whole thing as just an extra 20, what's the big deal. you just have to let your wallet do your talking. reward the right ones and hope you are on the side of market majority. condemn the 50 min sessions, dont be afraid to walk out, support the indies, and dont get addicted to pse mandating orgs who just use older milfs. i highly doubt good looking ones will want to offer pse. probably thats one of the reason for the hike, high pse demand leading to comparison with socal rates. the gfe rates are more or less the same between norcal and socal. 2015 had lot of good looking GFEs at 200. price was hiked to 220 due to increasing rent and for some reason the market has shifted to pse offering older ladies. i doubt the price hike is going to bring better girls. hike to 240 was demanded by plenty of lower tier girls to survive the slow market and by the ones visiting from LA, but resident big orgs that didn't get impacted are just jumping on the wagon to make best of the conditions and splitting the hike with the girls, despite rents being dropped during the pandemic.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

some would just disregard the whole thing as just an extra 20, what's the big deal. you just have to let your wallet do your talking. reward the right ones and hope you are on the side of market majority. condemn the 50 min sessions, dont be afraid to walk out, support the indies, and dont get addicted to pse mandating orgs who just use older milfs. i highly doubt good looking ones will want to offer pse. probably thats one of the reason for the hike, high pse demand leading to comparison with socal rates. the gfe rates are more or less the same between norcal and socal. 2015 had lot of good looking GFEs at 200. price was hiked to 220 due to increasing rent and for some reason the market has shifted to pse offering older ladies. i doubt the price hike is going to bring better girls. hike to 240 was demanded by plenty of lower tier girls to survive the slow market and by the ones visiting from LA, but resident big orgs that didn't get impacted are just jumping on the wagon to make best of the conditions and splitting the hike with the girls, despite rents being dropped during the pandemic.

Everyone here is an addict. If you say your not youre just fooling yourself. I mean really, why would you be on this site if you werent?

 

[RocketmanAR]

Ok well lets go back to your earlier point of why not raise it to 500?

What are your options then?

1. Take it - which you - as in you Rocketman - would probably wouldnt.

Or

2. Leave it - which you probably would do.

I'm not quite following the logic here.

I can afford 500 on a girl. I would still probably pay it for my ATF who is *that* good to me and worth the money. But I surely wouldn't pay 500 for a proverbial pig in a poke, ie unknown quantity, off a fake pic. And I'd expect for 500 that orgs would provide pics that are much closer to truth, at the very least real body, and provide good service.

So to expand your options I'd add at least

3. Take it, but take it more selectively and give no leeway to orgs where you mightve previously.

If, of course, you're unhappy about the price hike. Personally I dont think a 20 dollar raise is bad, but I will show solidarity when it comes to principle.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

I'm not quite following the logic here.

I can afford 500 on a girl. I would still probably pay it for my ATF who is *that* good to me and worth the money. But I surely wouldn't pay 500 for a proverbial pig in a poke, ie unknown quantity, off a fake pic. And I'd expect for 500 that orgs would provide pics that are much closer to truth, at the very least real body, and provide good service.

So to expand your options I'd add at least

3. Take it, but take it more selectively and give no leeway to orgs where you mightve previously.

If, of course, you're unhappy about the price hike. Personally I dont think a 20 dollar raise is bad, but I will show solidarity when it comes to principle.

Umm.. 3 and 1 are the same.

 

[remi]

I agree that all orgs will raise prices. What I don't agree with is the attitude of take it or leave it, as if mongers are powerless. We can at least attempt to make the orgs behave better in terms of scheduling backs to backs and so on, if they are going to raise the prices and if you don't like it.


Again, my message is that if you're unhappy about something with the org, make it known loud and clear in reviews and forums. It's generally not a bad idea to do it regardless, but I know many people will try to make the girls or orgs appear better than they actually are. Maybe if youre unhappy, that's a good wake up call to start calling spade a spade and not be worried to piss off org or a girl.


Just my two cents.

Should we create a formal demand letter with all our signatures on it ?

 

[RocketmanAR]

Umm.. 3 and 1 are the same.

Depends on who you are and how much you can afford and how much leeway you give orgs.

Anyway, thats just my two cents. This thread gonna be locked soon, I can feel it lol

 

[tpcal]

Everyone here is an addict. If you say your not youre just fooling yourself. I mean really, why would you be on this site if you werent?

its one thing to reward what you like, another thing to blindly accept what is dished out to you. hobby is an addiction, yes. but am not gonna go waste it on someone not worth the visit just because there aren't any other options.

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

Depends on who you are and how much you can afford and how much leeway you give orgs.

Anyway, thats just my two cents. This thread gonna be locked soon, I can feel it lol

EXACTLY!

If your ok with it, THEN YOU TAKE IT!
If your not ok with it, THEN YOU LEAVE IT!

 

[Rahmyeon1234]

its one thing to reward what you like, another thing to blindly accept what is dished out to you. hobby is an addiction, yes. but am not gonna go waste it on someone not worth the visit just because there aren't any other options.

Exactly! You jist chose option 2!

 

[RocketmanAR]

Should we create a formal demand letter with all our signatures on it ?

Posting on active forums is enough - they will read it.

But if enough people do want it, I have a few templates and we can present such a letter to one of the org owners when they go Karaoke.

 

[Delta6]

Sadly, I think the dam broke on this one. Increases are inevitable

 

[remi]

Posting on active forums is enough - they will read it.

But if enough people do want it, I have a few templates and we can present such a letter to one of the org owners when they go Karaoke.

I was just joking you know .

Posting here should be sufficient.

 

[remi]

So whats stopping you from opening your own org?

I don't speak Korean.