LE stings

[Cibo]

Was curious to know does LE do stings and set up fake amps or does do they just bust in on the amp and do they take away everyone at the time. I would think they would have to catch someone in act going on for the to do anything they would have to prove tha you were not there just for a massage.

Do they just go after the place or the customers?

Thanks for the input

 

[Casinofire1]

I don’t think so anymore in New York. The hobby is on the verge of being decriminalized so not much motivation to pursue.

 

[BIGBOB62]

I remember reading one in Seattle area where LE raided a spa late night one night, took in all the girls, and then opened it the next day staffed with policewomen and nabbed a few guys. It seemed more of a publicity stunt though and it's the only one I've heard of. Seen tons of the hotel based police stings though.

 

[Talo]

I don’t think so anymore in New York. The hobby is on the verge of being decriminalized so not much motivation to pursue.

Don't count on that 100% remember there are plenty pf NYMBY old ladies out there that don't want any of this around. So while certain things are getting decriminalized there is plenty else to get people on. Not to mention that there are still quotas that Leo has to meet, and the requirement is generally just about solid busts leading to convictions. Only some concern over what the convictions are actually for, but generally not enough to keep them from taking a MPs, Agencies or Indis down one way or another just to get the numbers up.

I remember reading one in Seattle area where LE raided a spa late night one night, took in all the girls, and then opened it the next day staffed with policewomen and nabbed a few guys. It seemed more of a publicity stunt though and it's the only one I've heard of. Seen tons of the hotel based police stings though.

Yup its always been an easy score for them. That and turning indis into bate. They'll catch a few via their own ads show up and get them on some charge. Often times way worse things than what they advertised for, you all can connect the dots. Then they'll bargin with the ladies to help them makes busts for a few days in exchange for leniency.

 

[dco2010]

Yes you are right about that !!!

 

[Sidneyfalco]

I remember reading one in Seattle area where LE raided a spa late night one night, took in all the girls, and then opened it the next day staffed with policewomen and nabbed a few guys. It seemed more of a publicity stunt though and it's the only one I've heard of. Seen tons of the hotel based police stings though.

Rumor was that something like this happened in a NYC house in the 90s. It was hard to confirm in the pre-internet days but it made me pretty paranoid,
I remember when my favorite whorehouse The Executive Club was busted at their location on Lexington and 28th. I passed by there, and saw the familiar orange sticker on the door- “Closed by Court Order”. While I was reading the sign, a young guy came up to me and whispered that they had a new place and handed me a card with the new phone number. I never went, out of fear that it was a set-up

 

[Mamluke13]

I don't think they are that interested in flushing I see nothing but asians girls offering massage and nothing happens to them there is a hotel that says protected by NYPD and girls work there and nothing happened to them

 

[Talo]

I don't think they are that interested in flushing I see nothing but asians girls offering massage and nothing happens to them there is a hotel that says protected by NYPD and girls work there and nothing happened to them

We'll see what happens. The folks you're talking about just need to make sure they don't provoke the wrong people otherwise the whole thing will get taken down ASAP especially the ones out in the open. The NY post has been targeting flushing and East New York in the last year or so making the scene seem like it's more out of control that it actually is. This worries me the most for those folks.

 

[dylbranch]

Maybe it would be worthwhile to share information on how to behave if you're caught in a bust or a sting. I have been told some things - but I am afraid that was 20 years ago and I don't know if anything I would share could still work today. I do know they will try to scare the bejeezus out of you, talking about 'audio and video' equipment - usually non-existent.

If anyone has more information regarding what you can or can't say or do to avoid being hauled in, especially if there is a sting taking place, that would be great. But having been almost busted once, the only other good thing I know is that if you keep your mouth shut, answer "yes" or "no" and generally keep it to a minimal response, there isn't much they can do. I remember them keeping me and 3 other guys in the hall as they paraded the women and the 'owner' out the door. I got a lecture on human trafficking, and the nature of 'these places'. They checked my ID to see if I was wanted, handed it all back, said "no outstanding warrants or traffic tickets" and made me sit for 20 minutes. Then I asked "am I being arrested?" They said "no". I said "then I can go, right?" "Yes."

 

[BIGBOB62]

In the USA I’ve only been harassed by LE outside a spa, not in the spa. I came back to my car to find a policeman lounging against it refusing to move until I answered his questions, and I was followed out of a parking lot for 10 miles another night, pulled over for failure to keep right, and then held for an hour with intermittent questions about the spa. In both situations I gave me name and handed over my ID and refused to answer anything else, while asking if I was under arrest or could I leave. The thing to remember is that police can and do lie to you. They’ll tell you they have video. They’ll tell you the girl confessed. They’ll tell you it will all be fine if you just tell them everything. Don’t lie, and don’t answer any questions other than name, and admit you were there, if they saw you. Be polite. Walt them out. That’s what I do.
but that’s USA advice. In China police have no rules and are mostly corrupt.

 

[Harveydent]

Reminds me of an old YT video recorded during a law school class about the 5th ammendment and talking to LE. Same gist as what you call out above, just don't say shit.

 

[이 회장님]

If I am in a bust then I will pretend that I don’t speak any English. That’s what I do when I get pulled over. lol.

Officer: “License and registration.”
Me: “I’m sori….um me Engrishee no gooda.”

 

[Narainjashanmal]

This was pretty Covid, maybe Nov 2019ish, location was 50 something and 2nd Ave. In the very building where I was showing up for an appointment, was a illegal Chinese spot being raided. Saw LE with copies of passport questioning everyone walking into, past that apartment. I was asked who I was visiting and I pretended to walk into the wrong building and was let go but that was a scary experience witnessing a pretty open/public raid like that. Kept me out of the game for atleast 9 months after.

 

[sinyalekf]

Samantha the SI MILF got turned in by a monger who got stopped leaving a shortstay. They had nothing on him but scared him into giving her up. Too bad she was pretty cool.