Invasive Screening

[chargeshot]

What's with the screening procedure these days? Sending images of ids. This goes against all reasonable opsec. Once that text is out there it cannot be taken back. I'm fine with showing my IDs upon arrival but sending a text with that information is asking too much.

Have things always been this way? And whats with some places not assisting in verification with others?

 

[Zzzz]

What's with the screening procedure these days? Sending images of ids. This goes against all reasonable opsec. Once that text is out there it cannot be taken back. I'm fine with showing my IDs upon arrival but sending a text with that information is asking too much.

Have things always been this way? And whats with some places not assisting in verification with others?

ID (and sometimes job verification) is an effective technique that reduces the probability of a ruffian falling through the cracks and gaining access to and manhandling the gals during a session.

 

[Nycrva]

What's with the screening procedure these days? Sending images of ids. This goes against all reasonable opsec. Once that text is out there it cannot be taken back. I'm fine with showing my IDs upon arrival but sending a text with that information is asking too much.

Have things always been this way? And whats with some places not assisting in verification with others?

I don’t get too worried about it. Most places delete the text once they confirm who you are. You’re right that the text lives somewhere for years and could technically get pulled off a server if law enforcement subpoenaed your phone service carrier, but that doesn’t really get them more info than they already would have (I.e. when you get screened that place is keeping a record that you were a customer there, and they’re doing that whether you send a text or they see your ID when you first arrive).

 

[Freesmoke134]

I don’t get too worried about it. Most places delete the text once they confirm who you are. You’re right that the text lives somewhere for years and could technically get pulled off a server if law enforcement subpoenaed your phone service carrier, but that doesn’t really get them more info than they already would have (I.e. when you get screened that place is keeping a record that you were a customer there, and they’re doing that whether you send a text or they see your ID when you first arrive).

Just curious , how do you Know for sure they delete the text ?

 

[Nycrva]

Just curious , how do you Know for sure they delete the text ?

A lot of places I’ve seen will tell you they deleted it. But at any rate I guess it doesn’t really matter because like I said it will live somewhere for a period of time and they’re already writing down your name in their records of clients once they see your ID no matter how you showed it to them. So if the concern is having your name on the records of an AMP as a customer that’s happening regardless of whether they just see your ID in person or not.

 

[rongetcha]

A lot of places I’ve seen will tell you they deleted it. But at any rate I guess it doesn’t really matter because like I said it will live somewhere for a period of time and they’re already writing down your name in their records of clients once they see your ID no matter how you showed it to them. So if the concern is having your name on the records of an AMP as a customer that’s happening regardless of whether they just see your ID in person or not.

So you don't mind that your official ID with pic is out there memorilaizing and verifying your involvement with criminal activity?

 

[Mw20]

Just my 2 cents the chances of LE using a picture of an ID is beyond remote. These places are shutdown for a variety of reasons. The time and money to get subpoenas that prove nothing. I agree would not want my ID out there but will never be used by LE unless ur name is Robert Kraft.

 

[Nycrva]

So you don't mind that your official ID with pic is out there memorilaizing and verifying your involvement with criminal activity?

It doesn’t matter is what I’m saying. Whether it’s a picture of your ID or your name listed in a record of appointments, the overall effect on you is the same.

 

[Lazarus]

Just my 2 cents the chances of LE using a picture of an ID is beyond remote. These places are shutdown for a variety of reasons. The time and money to get subpoenas that prove nothing. I agree would not want my ID out there but will never be used by LE unless ur name is Robert Kraft.

Even in his situation, he was actively monitored through vid cameras in the room, and as soon as he left the place, his id was verified through a traffic stop, same as they did with all of them.
It wasn’t done through his id being in some database 5 years later. I’ve read a lot of these places being closed due to heavy money laundering and other shady stuff. In any case, use caution.
Good chance this work may be decriminalized in nyc soon. AOC, Kamala and Bernie And others have already stated their stance is to decriminalize and help facilitate a smooth transition into a legal and safer way for workers to continue.

 

[rongetcha]

It doesn’t matter is what I’m saying. Whether it’s a picture of your ID or your name listed in a record of appointments, the overall effect on you is the same.

It'll be your name sticking out like a sore thumb since it will be one of the only ones attached to a drivers license since the overwhelming vast majority of mongers know better than to text a pic of their DL.

 

[Nycrva]

It'll be your name sticking out like a sore thumb since it will be one of the only ones attached to a drivers license since the overwhelming vast majority of mongers know better than to text a pic of their DL.

Ok but again it’s not going to matter.

For example, unless they have evidence of you actually engaging in sexual activity in there (like a video of the activity for example), it’s not going to get you in legal trouble.

And if you had to show them your ID in person to get in your name is still in the records. So if law enforcement decided to do what they did in FL and release the names to the public, your name is getting out there whether they have a picture of your ID or not.

 

[MongersGonnaMong]

Just my 2 cents the chances of LE using a picture of an ID is beyond remote. These places are shutdown for a variety of reasons. The time and money to get subpoenas that prove nothing. I agree would not want my ID out there but will never be used by LE unless ur name is Robert Kraft.

I use my passport photo card since it doesn’t show my home address but it is government certified ID, understand it’s for the girls safety and usually once you’re past that hurdle they can know you’re not on the end of the crazy scale

What I find evasive is when they ask for your work information
I wouldn’t trust them with that

 

[Lazarus]

Ok but again it’s not going to matter.

For example, unless they have evidence of you actually engaging in sexual activity in there (like a video of the activity for example), it’s not going to get you in legal trouble.

And if you had to show them your ID in person to get in your name is still in the records. So if law enforcement decided to do what they did in FL and release the names to the public, your name is getting out there whether they have a picture of your ID or not.

Yes, but they only released the names of people who they had recorded on video engaging in explicit activities, and then stopped at a traffic light to get the name. Even then, the court regarded the recordings to be illegal and it ended up being a waste of time and money for them.
Other places have been closed for different reasons and they’ve allegedly taken the numbers and names but not released them. Because one can call such a place and never actually visit. Or call by accident. One can go to such a place but only for a legitimate massage. One can use a different number. One can give a different name or even show a fake id (which are rampant these days among people under 21 to get into a bar). I believe they need actual proof of wrongdoing or they risk being sued for defamation etc.

 

[rongetcha]

Ok but again it’s not going to matter.

For example, unless they have evidence of you actually engaging in sexual activity in there (like a video of the activity for example), it’s not going to get you in legal trouble.

And if you had to show them your ID in person to get in your name is still in the records. So if law enforcement decided to do what they did in FL and release the names to the public, your name is getting out there whether they have a picture of your ID or not.

Hope you are correct and No reason to doubt you.

 

[hgae931]

I just skip the place if they ask for this bullshit.

I made this mistake years ago when I was a rookie. My first ever in-call visit asked for pic of ID. I sent it. The agency never deleted it because they send me texts promoting new girls every damn week even though I tell them to stop. And they continued for over a year. Completely breaks all the rules about client privacy.

Since I was a rookie, I've probably seen 200 more girls without ever providing ID ever again... so 0.0001% of them ask for it. I just skip them. No point risking it. If they don't want my business, fine.

The "safest" and most well-run place I've been to (and still go to) never asked me to send a pic of ID... they simply just did a door check and added me to the safe list. So there are absolutely safe procedures that can be done without putting clients at risk.

 

[tateslament]

ID (and sometimes job verification) is an effective technique that reduces the probability of a ruffian falling through the cracks and gaining access to and manhandling the gals during a session.

God I hope "ruffian" is ironic

 

[AutomaticSlim]

So you don't mind that your official ID with pic is out there memorilaizing and verifying your involvement with criminal activity?

Nope. Don't mind it at all.
Better than some thug/creep/psycho type getting access to the girls because of lax screening...

 

[Nycrva]

I just skip the place if they ask for this bullshit.

I made this mistake years ago when I was a rookie. My first ever in-call visit asked for pic of ID. I sent it. The agency never deleted it because they send me texts promoting new girls every damn week even though I tell them to stop. And they continued for over a year. Completely breaks all the rules about client privacy.

Since I was a rookie, I've probably seen 200 more girls without ever providing ID ever again... so 0.0001% of them ask for it. I just skip them. No point risking it. If they don't want my business, fine.

The "safest" and most well-run place I've been to (and still go to) never asked me to send a pic of ID... they simply just did a door check and added me to the safe list. So there are absolutely safe procedures that can be done without putting clients at risk.

Most places also won’t mind if you black out certain portions of your ID like your address. That’s what I do.

 

[rongetcha]

Nope. Don't mind it at all.
Better than some thug/creep/psycho type getting access to the girls because of lax screening...

So you are saying you text your Drivers License with your pic and your home address for god only knows whose eyes to see ?

 

[rongetcha]

Most places also won’t mind if you black out certain portions of your ID like your address. That’s what I do.

The irony here is spas ask for ID to keep LE out but under cover cops have the ultimate fake ID's issued by DMV. Do they really think an ID policy eliminates LE . Haha