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How do i prevent time from being shorted?
- Thread starter Drop_dead_fred
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You have to control the session. If you lay there and do nothing, yes you will have some good times and get the full hour, but more often you will finish early and not get the right thing or what does it for you. When you control the session, you might get some resistance, especially if they are busy, but then you know where you stand and have leverage to tip lower.
If they are busy, you can expect interruptions and a shortage of time. Notice, interruptions and a shortage of time. Or, an unfocused session in which her mind is on getting you out the door and getting to the next one on the table.
If I sensed they are busy, before we even start, I tell them and the boss, “If you are busy I will return a little later”. That’s the last thing they want to hear. Once a customer is in the door, they will do anything to keep him. Interesting discussions have followed.
When they are busy, some of them can pretend and act like they aren’t thinking about the next one in line, but they are. When time is shorted, it sends a clear message.
The key is to be aware of the current situation. Even if you have been there many times, take note of the current situation. And, always have a back up plan and be willing to walk.
If I sensed they are busy, before we even start, I tell them and the boss, “If you are busy I will return a little later”. That’s the last thing they want to hear. Once a customer is in the door, they will do anything to keep him. Interesting discussions have followed.
When they are busy, some of them can pretend and act like they aren’t thinking about the next one in line, but they are. When time is shorted, it sends a clear message.
The key is to be aware of the current situation. Even if you have been there many times, take note of the current situation. And, always have a back up plan and be willing to walk.
Depends on the place. East Lake nailed it. If they're busy you're going to get shorted somehow. At FS places the attitude is "you come, we're done." A lot of mongers are ok with that. But I'm generally not a FS guy.
If I catch them staring at the clock or paying attention to their phone or if they walk out of the room without a good reason during my session I will not complain but I will never return.
If I catch them staring at the clock or paying attention to their phone or if they walk out of the room without a good reason during my session I will not complain but I will never return.
Don't worry too much about time. The most important thing, did you get what you came there to get? However, the girls and mama are only loyal to the next guy ringing the doorbell. If you are a regular, you can complain. I've done that before and gotten the house fee waived my next time. Also, I usually have fun first. That way if it takes me 20, 30, 40, or 50 minutes to finish, I know that I got what I came there for. Massage is overrated. Depends on your session with the girl, it can get awkward. Sometimes I just want to leave anyway. If I want a massage I'll go to massage envy.
Finally high traffic areas like TW, expect to be shorted. There is so much foot traffic that expect to be out in 40 minutes. But smaller places with only 1 or 2 providers can also get busy. What sucks is when someone shows up without an appointment and ruins it for everyone.
Finally high traffic areas like TW, expect to be shorted. There is so much foot traffic that expect to be out in 40 minutes. But smaller places with only 1 or 2 providers can also get busy. What sucks is when someone shows up without an appointment and ruins it for everyone.
The first answer summed it up. You must control the session. It's partly physical and mental. I can't tell you exactly how to do it, because it's something that has to be self taught. It's something you may never learn.
After 6 years or so of this hobby, I would consider myself a master at controlling the session. But lately I also tend to see the same girl(s) often rather than jump from one to another. In general, the more often you see a provider, the better the service will be as long as your'e taking care of her.
Sometimes you have better chemistry with some providers than others. You have to put yourself in their place for a moment. At an AMP type place, these girls can't pick and choose their clients. They can however, choose how they serve each of those clients. These women really aren't all that different from any other normal women, aside from being in a highly unconventional job.
Theyr'e going to prefer being with some clients over others for various reasons...that's just human nature. Theyr'e could be several reasons why your'e continually getting shorted. If it's happening with the same girl, then maybe it's time to to try someone new and you lay have better results.
After 6 years or so of this hobby, I would consider myself a master at controlling the session. But lately I also tend to see the same girl(s) often rather than jump from one to another. In general, the more often you see a provider, the better the service will be as long as your'e taking care of her.
Sometimes you have better chemistry with some providers than others. You have to put yourself in their place for a moment. At an AMP type place, these girls can't pick and choose their clients. They can however, choose how they serve each of those clients. These women really aren't all that different from any other normal women, aside from being in a highly unconventional job.
Theyr'e going to prefer being with some clients over others for various reasons...that's just human nature. Theyr'e could be several reasons why your'e continually getting shorted. If it's happening with the same girl, then maybe it's time to to try someone new and you lay have better results.
Most of what i already would say has been said.
I do particularly agree on FS spots. you come, youre done. game on. If she's good enough to make me come in 40 minutes, she gets her 20 back. If i havent come in 60 minutes, i expect her to finish anyway at her cost, or at least if its her fault.
one thing I have done that helps in regular shops is to ask before heading into the TS whether that time counts as part of my time. Some shops say yes, some no. the answer doesnt matter too much -- what I am trying to do is subtly establish that I too have my eyes on the clock. I always take the TS anyway, i just make a show of looking at the time when i ask this question, and then again when we come back if needed.
I do particularly agree on FS spots. you come, youre done. game on. If she's good enough to make me come in 40 minutes, she gets her 20 back. If i havent come in 60 minutes, i expect her to finish anyway at her cost, or at least if its her fault.
one thing I have done that helps in regular shops is to ask before heading into the TS whether that time counts as part of my time. Some shops say yes, some no. the answer doesnt matter too much -- what I am trying to do is subtly establish that I too have my eyes on the clock. I always take the TS anyway, i just make a show of looking at the time when i ask this question, and then again when we come back if needed.