Well, here is my view and its the last I will post in this thread, as like I mentioned, I kinda pay attention to human behavior and there are some people that need to argue a point to validate their views.....I won't argue and legitimize their needs. First of all, we are all hobbying in something that is (1) against the law (2) potentially to a degree dangerous health-wise (3) some would say immoral and disrespectful to both your spouse and the girls/women we practice this hobby with along with probably a few other things. So, let the first innocent man cast the first stone.
That being said...I have my thoughts on the illegal aspects of things. For instance, Dream was recently busted. And they are already back up and running. In my mind, two consenting adults who wish to have sex together should in no way be illegal. Both being adults of course. This is why customers of spas that have been raided are not troubled. Hell, I was in OWC a number of years ago when it was struck. They literally can't touch you if they didn't see any illicit actions and everybody shuts up. They took my information and sent me on my way and getting my information was basically just to run me for warrants...standard police operational practice. What they are truly looking for is human trafficking...just what was being said in the ensuing thread about Dream being raided. And that I can get behind. No one should be "trafficked" for sex against their will! On that subject, I have seen many ladies and a vast majority of them seemed to be happily engaging in the trade. Hell, we all know that many of them travel from one of the NYC boroughs to their respective amps by train or whatever and again, A vast majority of them travel alone, unescorted. There were a few times way back when the woman who ran the "55" spa on Princeton Hightstown Road (forget her name right now) had moved her operation to Plainsboro and a few times, I did her a favor and picked up the three girls working that day at the train station because at the time, I liked being the first customer of the day. I mention this because if they were so "held against their will" I would think that they could very easily "escape their chains" so to speak any time they wanted given that they were unchaperoned. So, I don't believe all of the human trafficking bullshit, but that is truly what cops are looking for. Apparently, the girls at Dream must have passed muster because things were back in order toot sweet.
As far as the health angle goes, everyone has a choice to participate in this hobby or not and have the choice of how far to indulge....safety wise. If a monger thinks that there aren't guys out there who are enjoying bareback, then they are not in touch with reality. And if they in fact do realize that there are, and still take part in the hobby, well then, again, you need to assess your odds. If you dont like your odds, maybe take up stamp collecting. I choose to participate in the hobby to the level I am comfortable at. That is my choice.
And lastly, I truly realize that I am in the real minority in the fact that I monger with the knowledge of my wife. I am not foolish enough to think that I am the only one and I have had this conversation with a handful of spa girls and some Indy providers who tell me its fairly common. I do not agree that its right to be fucking women who are forced into it, but like I said, most girls/women I engage with seem pretty content about their situation. Are they all? Who knows, but I go with the assumption that they are doing it willingly. The money ain't bad! . So I don't feel I am disrespecting tgem. As far as my spouse, absolutely no disrespect towards her when there are times when she tells me that I need to "go for a visit"... meaning, go get my rocks off. It is a tremendous freedom of guilt when you don't have to run around behind your wife's back to go enjoy sex with another woman. If she is basically telling me to literally " Go get fucked" I hardly think that brings in any level of disrespect! Remember, I am 65...66 in a few months and my wife is only a year behind me. Age does crap to a womans desire for or ability to enjoy sex. My wife is unselfish enough to realize that I still may have sexual needs that need taking care of that jerking off won't solve. I know that I shouldn't rock the boat when its floating just fine, but I still occasionally thank her for allowing me to fuck other women, so I do bring up the topic when its just as easy to let it be unmentioned. But she tells me exactly what I just said about her thinking its unfair of her to insist that I stop having sexual needs just because she no longer has the desire. Yes, I am blessed.
That's about it from this end. I won't engage in arguing with someone who can't practice the level of mongering they would prefer because of preconceived danger or moral standards. Just will not validate their fears and misconceptions. I live my life on my terms and I'm doing a pretty good job of enjoying life! Happy mongering boys!
