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Decline in Marriage Rates

VJLUTZ

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@VJLUTZ I think you are ahead of the News Media on that topic because you posted this two days ago, and FOX News was talking about it this morning. This thread is from men's perspective whereas Fox The Five had 2 women on the panel and they shared different perspectives.
The site ZeroHedge (one of my faves) had a thread on it as well. Really enjoyed some of the comments, especially this one:

Real men don't ask if/why they're being rejected. They find someone new to fuck.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019...rate-decline-lack-economically-attractive-men
 

wasper

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Zerohedge is one of the last actual news sites out there. Fast, accurate and most importantly, non-PC. I read them all day, every day. Doesn't hurt they also have an anti-globalist, anti-snowflake, pro-free-market, pro-reality slant.
Best comment on that ZH story : "Women wanted equality, well, they got it! Enjoy your house full of cats, ladies!"
 

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Interesting article and I will not argue with it because both men and women are more self absorbed than previous generations.

The education system thru self evaluation realized it was not educating women as well as me thirty years ago. They made changes to the methods of education to help females. Great idea, unfortunately, in improving female education, male education was sacrificed. This has been going on for a generation and is now the reason more females are headed to college than males.

I have heard OVER and OVER again on this site a males natural instinct is to spread his seed. I will not disagree with this because there is some truth in a reduced capacity for cognitive thinking comes additional animal instincts. Saying this and believing this comes to the general logic that a woman's natural instinct is to search for security and shelter. This is the general premise of this article and it has some merit.

The major reason for this trend is that education and society do not teach, demonstrate and/or convey the valuable and priceless benefits of a loving couple and family unit.

I am making generalization and understand there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules. Can society survive without marriage, absolutely. Would society and especially children flourish in the absences of a strong healthy loving family unit? Possibly, but definitely questionable based on statistics.

In the future, women are going to need to open up their minds to the fact that a man making a million dollars a year who is never present may not be as beneficial to her total happiness and contentment than the man making 50K a year but is willing to support his wife and children every day of the year.

Guys, I am old enough to be a father to some and yet I can still read/talk/listen to people who are older and wiser than I.

When people are at the end of their lives they all have one thing in common, they wish they would have loved the people in their lives more. Take their advice and distribute it to your children so they follow that advice as well.
 

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Interesting article and I will not argue with it because both men and women are more self absorbed than previous generations.

The education system thru self evaluation realized it was not educating women as well as me thirty years ago. They made changes to the methods of education to help females. Great idea, unfortunately, in improving female education, male education was sacrificed. This has been going on for a generation and is now the reason more females are headed to college than males.

I have heard OVER and OVER again on this site a males natural instinct is to spread his seed. I will not disagree with this because there is some truth in a reduced capacity for cognitive thinking comes additional animal instincts. Saying this and believing this comes to the general logic that a woman's natural instinct is to search for security and shelter. This is the general premise of this article and it has some merit.

The major reason for this trend is that education and society do not teach, demonstrate and/or convey the valuable and priceless benefits of a loving couple and family unit.

I am making generalization and understand there are ALWAYS exceptions to the rules. Can society survive without marriage, absolutely. Would society and especially children flourish in the absences of a strong healthy loving family unit? Possibly, but definitely questionable based on statistics.

In the future, women are going to need to open up their minds to the fact that a man making a million dollars a year who is never present may not be as beneficial to her total happiness and contentment than the man making 50K a year but is willing to support his wife and children every day of the year.

Guys, I am old enough to be a father to some and yet I can still read/talk/listen to people who are older and wiser than I.

When people are at the end of their lives they all have one thing in common, they wish they would have loved the people in their lives more. Take their advice and distribute it to your children so they follow that advice as well.
“The major reason for this trend is that education and society do not teach, demonstrate and/or convey the valuable and priceless benefits of a loving couple and family unit.”

Thank you CB !

Or the joy and happiness that comes from such. Mother and father have the primary responsibility to teach such thru example. But, many of them have failed as well.
 

Horseshoehandgrenade

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Damn a lot of right-wing echo chamber shit going on in here. You guys blaming feminism and society sound like a bunch of incel saps.

There are plenty of feminine women out there today - in fact, I would argue that social media/selfie culture has made women more looks-obsessed than ever. If you have some kind of issue where women you’re choosing are not subservient enough or don’t suck your cock idk...consider the possibility it might be a you problem.

I’m in my mid-30s - I don’t cate about getting married bc I’ve seen my parents and their generation fail repeatedly at it (and then get all righteous at my generation for not doing the same). People are not necessarily wired for monogamy. Both men and women are increasingly realizing this, and there’s less stigma in society about being single or having kids outside of marriage. Simple as that
 

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Yes, you said that and other similar statements about objectifying, repressing and subjugating women / denying them equal rights. I think i also said you were chauvinistic, it goes hand-in-hand with misogyny. I know you enjoy being provocative and believe that you believe what you say most of the time.

Nothing I said above is about objectification, repression or subjugation. I don't align with any specific -isim ideology.
I agree with your prior post here about the state of Man and Woman relationships and how they are raising children in some parts is confusing and wrong imo.

However you are very quick to say misogynistic and chauvinistic as well.
 

VJLUTZ

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There are plenty of feminine women out there today - in fact, I would argue that social media/selfie culture has made women more looks-obsessed than ever. If you have some kind of issue where women you’re choosing are not subservient enough or don’t suck your cock idk...consider the possibility it might be a you problem.
I’m in my mid-30s...….
With all due respect, a lot of us here are much older than you are. I'm closing in on 60 myself. So we have had a chance to observe this over a much wider time window. You also haven't personally been married. It's one thing to observe marriage from the outside; it's a whole other thing when your skin is in the game.

I can say without hesitation that women HAVE changed over the last 40 years. I see it every day. Women today are uglier, fatter, nastier, more entitled and more hostile to men than they were circa 1980. Are there still good looking, feminine women out there? Of course. But there are a lot fewer of them and they tend to be more concentrated in urban areas. Back in 1980, fat ugly girls are the exception; around where I live, they are the rule. Even better, grab a HS or College yearbook or YouTube video from 1960 or so and compare it with on from present day. Almost everyone, both men and women, Iooked better back then. I realize some mongers disagree with this assessment, but a lot do agree with it. And in a sufficiently large group, no one agrees on everything.

It's not that I'm bitter that they won't suck my dick or fuck me. The truth is I really don't care; I wouldn't touch most Western women these days with a 10 foot pole, even most of the younger ones. That's why I like Asian women. They take far better care of themselves, are more feminine, and appreciate men more. I've been saying the same thing for many years now (both here and on Spahunters).
 

Horseshoehandgrenade

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Looks like we got ourselves a soy boy. Says blame yourself not society ... just before he blames society. And BTW use of the term incel invalidates every other opinion you have, you lefty poser. LOL.
I’m not blaming anything on anyone bc I don’t think marriage rates declining is a real problem.

Let’s be real - you’re mad. You’re mad because 30-40 years ago when everyone paired off into marriage by their mid-late 20s, some poor girl would have lost out and eventually had to take you on. Today that same girl has the power of choice, and would rather not be married at all than be with sone bitter loser like you.

So you blame women, say society is going down the tubes - all because the women you feel you’re entitled to won’t give you a second glance. But yeah you’re a “real man” and they just can’t handle it. That’s definitely it.

I look forward to you calling me a bunch of names in your response because you can’t put together a reasoned argument. See ya then
 

Horseshoehandgrenade

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With all due respect, a lot of us here are much older than you are. I'm closing in on 60 myself. So we have had a chance to observe this over a much wider time window. You also haven't personally been married. It's one thing to observe marriage from the outside; it's a whole other thing when your skin is in the game.

I can say without hesitation that women HAVE changed over the last 40 years. I see it every day. Women today are uglier, fatter, nastier, more entitled and more hostile to men than they were circa 1980. Are there still good looking, feminine women out there? Of course. But there are a lot fewer of them and they tend to be more concentrated in urban areas. Back in 1980, fat ugly girls are the exception; around where I live, they are the rule. Even better, grab a HS or College yearbook or YouTube video from 1960 or so and compare it with on from present day. Almost everyone, both men and women, Iooked better back then. I realize some mongers disagree with this assessment, but a lot do agree with it. And in a sufficiently large group, no one agrees on everything.

It's not that I'm bitter that they won't suck my dick or fuck me. The truth is I really don't care; I wouldn't touch most Western women these days with a 10 foot pole, even most of the younger ones. That's why I like Asian women. They take far better care of themselves, are more feminine, and appreciate men more. I've been saying the same thing for many years now (both here and on Spahunters).
I appreciate the respectful response. I guess my question is - why do you care at this point? You’re older and have already sworn off Western women, so who gives a shit?

Beauty standards always change through the years - and frankly everyone is fatter today than 40 years ago, not just women. I’ve seen the sex symbols of the 70s and 80s - I gotta say with a lot of them, I just don’t get it. The hair the style - they have no body and look like they survive on cigarettes and coffee. And guess what - if someone else is into that loon i don’t give a shit! If you don’t like a certain body type that’s being idealized now, it’ll change. Idk where you live but in NY/NJ there are skinny women everywhere. Feels like people just want to complain about something.

No disrespect intended but I just don’t get guys that want to enforce old-fashioned beauty standards for women half their age. Seems like a weird thing to spend your energy being frustrated about
 

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With all due respect, a lot of us here are much older than you are. I'm closing in on 60 myself. So we have had a chance to observe this over a much wider time window. You also haven't personally been married. It's one thing to observe marriage from the outside; it's a whole other thing when your skin is in the game.

I can say without hesitation that women HAVE changed over the last 40 years. I see it every day. Women today are uglier, fatter, nastier, more entitled and more hostile to men than they were circa 1980. Are there still good looking, feminine women out there? Of course. But there are a lot fewer of them and they tend to be more concentrated in urban areas. Back in 1980, fat ugly girls are the exception; around where I live, they are the rule. Even better, grab a HS or College yearbook or YouTube video from 1960 or so and compare it with on from present day. Almost everyone, both men and women, Iooked better back then. I realize some mongers disagree with this assessment, but a lot do agree with it. And in a sufficiently large group, no one agrees on everything.

It's not that I'm bitter that they won't suck my dick or fuck me. The truth is I really don't care; I wouldn't touch most Western women these days with a 10 foot pole, even most of the younger ones. That's why I like Asian women. They take far better care of themselves, are more feminine, and appreciate men more. I've been saying the same thing for many years now (both here and on Spahunters).
I agree that on average women 30 to 40 years ago were in better shape and generally better looking than what we have today.
But, I think the hot ones of today are better looking than the hot ones from the 80s.
Thinner and better hair (hated that poofed up 80s hairstyle). But that's only the hot girls. The average girl today is kinda like a dumpster. I read that the average American woman has a 38 inch waste!
 

deepstate

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Looks like we got ourselves a soy boy. Says blame yourself not society ... just before he blames society. And BTW use of the term incel invalidates every other opinion you have, you lefty poser. LOL.
He isn’t a “real” Soy Boy because he likes to fuck hot women for money! He is just young and needs time to realize he was indoctrinated with lies. I went through the same phase. What wakes you up is a steady marriage and raising kids, having to worry about other people, getting mugged robbed or being deployed overseas or witnessing true malevolence.
 
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