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Date with provider

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Ltuser

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So sometimes you click with a provider... They like your money, maybe want a green card and think you're the ticket, maybe they even like you. Actually I think that it's usually not (directly) about dollars... Usually I think they are looking/hoping for something with someone they like or at least like ok, someone with money and the ability to take care of them a little, or they just want a good time. Some of these girls really like to fuck, and if you treat them nicely are happy to fuck you in their spare time.

So they ask you on a date, or vice versa. You end up in a hotel room or their place... Frankly these have been my best experiences coming out of AMPs, and part of the reason why (as good as PH is) I've generally stopped going to fs places.

I don't think that this is an unusual experience. But what I'm wondering is... Do you pay them? I think not ... I think that you treat them, treat them well. A nice dinner, a present now and then (mine have included a couch and Hermes scarf), depending on the length/quality of the relationship. But not cash.

Any thoughts?

And of course I'm happily married with kids, and love my wife. This is just fun on the side, because I can't get enough and am selfish.
 
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I've dated a few in my time and they're all different, but generally I'd say don't pay cash as it affects the dynamics and makes it like work for them. I know it's a terrible idea, but something about pros attracts me...maybe because I can do and say crazy things with them...or maybe because I don't have to hide my mongering habits with them.

I'm jiggering my rusty memory, but off the top of my head I've dated (1) a KMP girl in LA who was unhappy with the fact that she had to blow the fat hairy guy who managed the establishment, which weirdly turned me on which I'm embarrassed about a bit, (2) High end Room Salon girl in Seoul who was very intelligent and was going to a top university, (3) a phone girl for a legendary NY KMP girl who ended up becoming a pro herself, (4) another room salon girl in Korea who was trying to build a business selling fake Louis Vuitton handbags to her colleagues, (4) a young artsy NY KMP girl who crushed me a bit when she made clear she just wanted my cash while she dated loser Korean guys who gambled too much but I wasn't good enough for her, (5) a Chinese American girl in SF who dropped out of University of Washington and had her brother drop her off in North Beach before and after her ho job thinking she worked as a bartender, (6) a stunning, NY fashion model level Korean KMP girl in Vancouver who strung me along with the possibility of dating without crazy presents but ended up marrying a nice, but butt ugly Japanese guy and moving to a small Japanese village and raising their daughter there, etc etc etc....the moral of the story being that it never seems to end well for me.

Although...it seems to end possibly well for somebody else, as long as they don't know she's a ho. Maybe there's somebody out there with a happy ending, but it's best to just enjoy the fantasy for what it is.
 
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It's a strange transition. If you pay them or do the same stuff as you did in the spa, it might be more relaxed, but it's the same game. If you want different, then you get different. They want gifts but not as payment but just because that's what's expected in that culture. You'll find out what they actually enjoy sexually as they don't mind telling you; you're not a customer anymore. So part of what you originally liked -- pick your sex menu -- is gone. But if the girl is cool, it has its own obvious attractions. If you're waiting for a girl to marry, don't set your heart on it. These girls often have literally no other options, they're living illegally, or they've been abused/broken as kids. It's a big gulf between their world and your world. You're going to sweep her off her feet but she has no other friend network than all the other providers she's met, all of whom will eventually convince her she needs a green card or to make sure you still pay. Some of them are here because they're ambitious. Why would they not keep earning during their peak years? Enjoy the fun, the laughs, or the off-menu items. But remember every girl is on the same trajectory from nail girl to masseuse to happy ending to GFE to PSE to washed out.
 
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Ltuser said:
Thanks richardp... My thought as well re cash. A lot of these girls are somewhat cash rich while they are working (and spend too much and then burn out).
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Yes generally so. I forgot to mention one other girl who was different...she was from Korea and getting her PhD in Communications, I think maybe in Albany or Buffalo, and would come for long stretches to work the rooms and earn tuition money. I actually picked her up at the old Circle and had a dates with her with no idea that she was a ho. Very quiet, timid personality but fantastic body. I would tease her that she's studying communications but was ironically so quiet and uncommunicative.

I only realized she was a ho when a friend mentioned she looked like one of the girls on the KMP websites and I started comparing her FB pics to her ho pics and it finally dawned on me. I further cross checked with the house as to her availability with her NY travel schedule and it was a perfect match. I was tempted to see her in the room, to see how she would react seeing a guy she's dating show up and whether she'd go through with the session, but I never did because it seemed mean spirited.

She eventually got her PhD and is now in Seoul teaching at a university as a lecturer. I see her pictures on FB with her students and wonder if they have any idea what she had to endure to get her degree and prestigious position in Korean society. That's commitment. I'm happy for her as she worked the rooms for a good cause and didn't just blow the cash.

I suppose it's still thepretically possible for me to date her again if I go to Korea...tempting. I wonder if I could ever bring up her NY work history without it being a traumatic thing for her or if that's forever going to be an unspeakable secret...
 
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I have been dates /w 2 of them in the past:

- first of all if you are paying them then no it's not an actual date. If they like u enough they will want to spend time with you. You can pay for dinner though (IIRC one of them actual paid her own dinner lol)
- there was to be really good chemistry on both parties, the first one we had pretty insane chemistry from the get go. The 2nd one was lonely; so was I so somehow we hit it off even though I don't think we were that into each other at all lol.
- there was no pretense about a long term relationship, they knew I was married and has nothing to do /w green card (this happened in another country). We all knew it won't last but just enjoy the time while it lasted.
- I basically treated them like a FwB, they weren't quite mistress level since they weren't civies.
 
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Different perspectives here. My dating experience with a C lady is that she insists to pay for everything. I mean EVERYTHING! She will not let me tip to a waiter if we dine out. If we lodge at a hotel, got to be 4-5 star hotel and she pays for it. Even $5 meter parking, she got to pay for it. We trade gifts. But she gets upset when I give her nice "surprise" gifts. I am lucky and blessed to have her.
 
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bronzeharbor said:
It's the thought that they're just in it for the money or someone "good enough" that makes it harder to take the dive.
It'll be near impossible to tell whether or not they're actually interested in you or just your ability to get her out of the job.
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you can tell when they like you , I have dated several asian providers and spent very little money on them compared to American women I dated .
 
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bronzeharbor said:
Call me paranoid but they could just be playing the long game
Not saying that it's impossible but I'd be more careful for a longer amount of time
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I have a lot of success with asian women and the only reason I am not married to one is because , my soon to be EX is an American and dragging her feet making more money for the attorneys .... the Asian women I see treat me way better
 
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luvjackshack said:
I have a lot of success with asian women and the only reason I am not married to one is because , my soon to be EX is an American and dragging her feet making more money for the attorneys .... the Asian women I see treat me way better
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May I ask if you see Asian women in general or mostly providers? You're a lucky man either way...I have much to learn.
 
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