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Being Priced Out of the Market

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Retired032824

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That story is literally about getting ripped off. :oops:
Actually it is not . The story both the OP and mine, is about engagement in expensive hobbies. That is the point. You want to hobby you have to pay. Water floats to a certain level, as do other things. If the going rate has settled north of what it used to be, you either pony up or don't engage. Same with expensive cars, hobbies. Just because the price went up doesn't mean you are getting ripped off. Conversely, I too have had better times with lesser priced providers than more expensive highly touted ones. Check out my reviews, you will see what I mean.
 

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Actually it is not . The story both the OP and mine, is about engagement in expensive hobbies. That is the point. You want to hobby you have to pay. Water floats to a certain level, as do other things. If the going rate has settled north of what it used to be, you either pony up or don't engage. Same with expensive cars, hobbies. Just because the price went up doesn't mean you are getting ripped off. Conversely, I too have had better times with lesser priced providers than more expensive highly touted ones. Check out my reviews, you will see what I mean.
I understand you have to pay to play. I own a Porsche now, when I need service done to it, they quote me the price. If anything changes they call me and we discuss it. Showing up, and they tell you it is much higher than they told you is a ripoff. It's probably illegal. Everyone has the right to decide what and how much they are willing to pay for something.
Just like you can choose a low end or high end provider. What is obvious is, the providers will charge as much as the market will pay. If enough people keep paying they will not lower their costs.
 

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How many of those Eros $1000 providers are booked solid? Some do it as a a side job. Others is supply / demand factor. Take Gisella. Beautiful girl, great service, makes you feel like your with a porn start without PSE options. She didn’t start at $500. But with rave reviews from fellow mongers ( and we’ll deserved) , she was booked solid. Like a good business person, she went Indy and upped her prices. And from my perspectiVE, $500 is the right price point. I’ll take her twice over a $1000 Eros provider and still feel 2x better.
 

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How many of those Eros $1000 providers are booked solid? Some do it as a a side job. Others is supply / demand factor. Take Gisella. Beautiful girl, great service, makes you feel like your with a porn start without PSE options. She didn’t start at $500. But with rave reviews from fellow mongers ( and we’ll deserved) , she was booked solid. Like a good business person, she went Indy and upped her prices. And from my perspectiVE, $500 is the right price point. I’ll take her twice over a $1000 Eros provider and still feel 2x better.
See my review , I did not have that experience with her. As a matter of fact I submitted another review about Savana, who for almost half, provided me with a far better experience. Money alone does not insure a good experience. There is chemistry, timing, and you have to catch them on the right night. I would say most of the providers on Eros are full time. I do know a few well known ones who actually have careers limiting their time to provide. Their legit other life leads us to the fake photos and their desire for anonymity, but now we are straying.

My rent just went up. I am paying 500.00 more than I was in 2017. I can see where the $2.8 of yesteryear is now $ 3.4 or $ 4.0. Rent went up, provider fees went up, hell strawberries are 6.00 a box up from 3.00 . That is the economic condition we are living in... we had 15 years of zero inflation. Time to pay the piper.
 

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See my review , I did not have that experience with her. As a matter of fact I submitted another review about Savana, who for almost half, provided me with a far better experience. Money alone does not insure a good experience. There is chemistry, timing, and you have to catch them on the right night. I would say most of the providers on Eros are full time. I do know a few well known ones who actually have careers limiting their time to provide. Their legit other life leads us to the fake photos and their desire for anonymity, but now we are straying.

My rent just went up. I am paying 500.00 more than I was in 2017. I can see where the $2.8 of yesteryear is now $ 3.4 or $ 4.0. Rent went up, provider fees went up, hell strawberries are 6.00 a box up from 3.00 . That is the economic condition we are living in... we had 15 years of zero inflation. Time to pay the piper.
I agree with what you said, but providers aren’t paying taxes. If they take home $150k/ year, that’s equivalent to making a NYC taxable income of $250k. And if they take home $250k, you’re looking at TEI of $450k. Currently, I really don’t think the houses are booked solid. 2021 was a solid year for everyone. Free government money and a booming stock market increased demand. For 2022, in terms of the stock market, 2022 was a year most would want to forget, Additionally, the Houses chopped and renamed, girls rebranded and charged more.
 

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See my review , I did not have that experience with her. As a matter of fact I submitted another review about Savana, who for almost half, provided me with a far better experience. Money alone does not insure a good experience. There is chemistry, timing, and you have to catch them on the right night. I would say most of the providers on Eros are full time. I do know a few well known ones who actually have careers limiting their time to provide. Their legit other life leads us to the fake photos and their desire for anonymity, but now we are straying.

My rent just went up. I am paying 500.00 more than I was in 2017. I can see where the $2.8 of yesteryear is now $ 3.4 or $ 4.0. Rent went up, provider fees went up, hell strawberries are 6.00 a box up from 3.00 . That is the economic condition we are living in... we had 15 years of zero inflation. Time to pay the piper.
Prices for providers have been going up since i started this hobby. Idk what you are talking about. When i started going to amps the rate for the hour in late 2016 was $240 then it became $260 and so on and so on. I pay but i hobby different types of agencies and girls and throw in SA girls etc.

Let's not paint this narrative that the cost should go up. I say it's gone up decide if for you or not . However I'm not telling my bros that the price should go up.
 

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I agree with what you said, but providers aren’t paying taxes. If they take home $150k/ year, that’s equivalent to making a NYC taxable income of $250k. And if they take home $250k, you’re looking at TEI of $450k. Currently, I really don’t think the houses are booked solid. 2021 was a solid year for everyone. Free government money and a booming stock market increased demand. For 2022, in terms of the stock market, 2022 was a year most would want to forget, Additionally, the Houses chopped and renamed, girls rebranded and charged more.
Capitalism 101
 

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A provider sets her price and you can negotiate but it’s her body and some dudes actually believe that these women love cock all day when it’s all about the Benjamin’s. The nicer looking and younger providers always have a few mongers that shower them with expensive gifts and extra dollars and thus there’s never a need to lower prices.
 

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So prices should go down if demand softens?
Or they just dont bring as many girls to market. Reduce the supply. Just like gasoline. If the cost of living continues to rise, dont expect the cost of providers to decrease or stay the same. Do you make the same money you made in 2017? I dont.
 

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Demand has already softened. Places were packed during lockdown re-open. Not anymore. The prices will not go down. The top girls will take all the customers here and the rest will go to Cali or somewhere else.
You’re missing the point demand for the quantity providers will never soften and who really wants old grannies at a discount.
 

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I agree with what you said, but providers aren’t paying taxes. If they take home $150k/ year, that’s equivalent to making a NYC taxable income of $250k. And if they take home $250k, you’re looking at TEI of $450k. Currently, I really don’t think the houses are booked solid. 2021 was a solid year for everyone. Free government money and a booming stock market increased demand. For 2022, in terms of the stock market, 2022 was a year most would want to forget, Additionally, the Houses chopped and renamed, girls rebranded and charged more.
That’s their business and their prerogative. When the time comes , they will make a decision albeit close the door or lower the prices - hey they have rent , insurance and people to pony up to - maybe your perception and reality are different - maybe their accountant tells them this is what you need to charge to stay in business at 60% capacity .
 

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That’s their business and their prerogative. When the time comes , they will make a decision albeit close the door or lower the prices - hey they have rent , insurance and people to pony up to - maybe your perception and reality are different - maybe their accountant tells them this is what you need to charge to stay in business at 60% capacity .
We’re the ones gas with their break eve is. But a back of the envelope summation- 380x10 a day= $114k/month. Half that or 5 clients a day/$57k a month. I think they’re covering their expenses.
 

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We’re the ones gas with their break eve is. But a back of the envelope summation- 380x10 a day= $114k/month. Half that or 5 clients a day/$57k a month. I think they’re covering their expenses.[/QUOTE

That’s none of our business - I’m not following you - bottom line - their price is what it is . They aren’t going to lower it because (a) we want them to or (b) they are making money . If you think it’s too much take a HH, if that is too much, you either cannot afford it or are morally opposed to paying theirs price - either way the song remains the same - pay them or don’t go . End of story
 

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We can only guess what their break even is - but IMHO it’s irrelevant - we can’t question why they charge what they do, or what they net . It is what it is - it’s pay to play or go away . I think that really is the bottom line .

Hey do I wish it was 2016 and Chanel at Hot Lips was two bills - of course - but that , two dollar gas , and ,50 cent a slice pizza aren’t coming back, not now not ever
 
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