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Avoiding LEO

Tityfortaty

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Obviously not applicable to amps, but, any sure way to sniff LE vs provider? The sites are all a mess, with maybe the exception of maybe TNA and BGFE. Also not trying to be paranoid, just seen a perceived increase in LE activity.

Thanks
 

Tityfortaty

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I guess my question is if there is a method of screening indies like they screen us. I’ve read somewhere, for example, that if you can buy a picture from her, it can’t be LE. Dunno how true that is. Also, I feel like we all had some 2gtbt experiences, or at least I hope so for everyone else, lol.
 

zippydoda

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All I could hypothetically say is learn what LE needs for charges and conviction, and avoid the warning signs. The key factor is a clear offer of sexual activity for compensation...................and YES, we can argue all day that ALL relationships that include sex, even marriages, have that factor.

So, if they seem like they are direct avoiding THAT line of talk, prob legit. Same with if they refuse any early talk of numbers...............

Also, think a little about evidence collection. If they insist on communication where it retains a record.................could be a red flag. Unrecorded voice communication can be hearsay or "he said, she said" and is ripe for miscommunication and misunderstanding. But in black and white is far more damning.

I would think the "too good to be true" is more indicative of a scam/robbery then LE..................

Bottom line is discretion is the better part of valor and while the little head may run your show, let the big head have input.

All hypothetically of course................... ;)
 

Tityfortaty

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All good points here, I have gone with mostly reviewed providers but that group is not that large, and even then, a review can be written by anyone.

Zippy has a point, if there is no evidence, where is the crime....I like to think Im a ninja, but shoot, Ive seen plenty dateline episodes with my S/O lol! I think I might just need a break from mongering.
 

MongerTooMuch

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some good points on here, only thing I can ad is that several years back a buddy of mine went to see someone who not only had reviews but who he had also seen before. Well, she was busted and they set up a reverse sting using her phone and ads. He walked right into it and was arrested for solicitation, he got off sort of light in court with fines but was transported to police headquarters, spent several hours there, had to hire an attorney and the press release is still on the internet today if you search his name which has messed up some aspects of things in his life obviously. It was an upscale hotel in the CNJ area. Although not typical or the norm, this can obviously happen.
 

Tityfortaty

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Thats scary, they just need to change the law. I hope the laws change sooner than later. I read somewhere that several states have intruduced decriminalization (similar to marihuana) laws. Hope they pass.
 

zippydoda

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Thats scary, they just need to change the law. I hope the laws change sooner than later. I read somewhere that several states have intruduced decriminalization (similar to marihuana) laws. Hope they pass.
It's possible, but just like NJ weed nonsense they tend to screw things up far more then they fix because the "tax and regulation" legalized criminals see dollar signs instead of responsible freedom. Plus, when you add in the "trafficking" factor along with the illegal immigration stuff, it's a big area to try and unscrew up (pun intended) the mess they already made....................and "more of the same" stupidity by the folks who made the initial problem is never the solution except to their pockets.
 

error434

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I understand this is a lot more complex than a post in a forum. However, a lot of European countries are doing it successfully. It’s the oldest profession anyhow, if Uncle Sam can tax it, it will be legal at some point, just hope it’s within my lifetime.
The evangelicals will never let this happen. They rather let their men cheat on the side in "secret", than to allow them to do it openly, and safely. Legalize it. Regulate it and tax it like some Euro countries. I should help cut down on trafficking as well.
 

Scuba

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some good points on here, only thing I can ad is that several years back a buddy of mine went to see someone who not only had reviews but who he had also seen before. Well, she was busted and they set up a reverse sting using her phone and ads. He walked right into it and was arrested for solicitation, he got off sort of light in court with fines but was transported to police headquarters, spent several hours there, had to hire an attorney and the press release is still on the internet today if you search his name which has messed up some aspects of things in his life obviously. It was an upscale hotel in the CNJ area. Although not typical or the norm, this can obviously happen.
This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The arrest would come from the discussion, "I would like you to do this in exchange for money". Does that conversation take place with someone you've seen before?
 

MongerTooMuch

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This doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The arrest would come from the discussion, "I would like you to do this in exchange for money". Does that conversation take place with someone you've seen before?
it was on text, they set him up ahead of time pretending to be her, he responded and was actually looking forward to the "juicy" details as he put it. I don't know exactly what was said but it was enough for him to get arrested and he probably was thinking with the wrong head.
 

Tityfortaty

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The evangelicals will never let this happen. They rather let their men cheat on the side in "secret", than to allow them to do it openly, and safely. Legalize it. Regulate it and tax it like some Euro countries. I should help cut down on trafficking as well.
This is true, however, and not trying to be controversial, but religion has been dying for a long time. I don’t think you can discount ethical concerns altogether either, but we are hurting a lot more people by having this handled outside of a normal marketplace.
 

error434

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Sometimes, after having sex with my wife, I lay there and think, ok, not so bad--no risk of std, arrest, career loss, family embarrassment, education not wasted, still married, (divorce is expensive), and I saved the house fee and tip.

Other times, I don't think that rationally...
Just don't tip her out of habit....
 

Khushali

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Sometimes, after having sex with my wife, I lay there and think, ok, not so bad--no risk of std, arrest, career loss, family embarrassment, education not wasted, still married, (divorce is expensive), and I saved the house fee and tip.

Other times, I don't think that rationally...
Agree with you and variety is the need of life like we try different food or wear different clothing
 

BillyBlueEye

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Thats scary, they just need to change the law. I hope the laws change sooner than later. I read somewhere that several states have intruduced decriminalization (similar to marihuana) laws. Hope they pass.
As you know NJ would tax the air that you breath if they had a way to do it, problem is no politician in Trenton wants to be the one to introduce a bill for legalization/decriminalization of prostitution. There's just too much downside for introducing that kind of legislation, it would basically be political suicide to bring it up. These people in Trenton have a cushy lifestyle and aren't willing to risk throwing that out over mongers and providers. They want their votes and donations from the churchy people and just keep the status quo of being 'outraged' over sex crimes and human trafficking.

It took us way too long to get marijuana and sports betting legalized but weed and gambling are not sex, its just an uncomfortable topic most wont touch with a 10 ft. pole. I don't think we will ever see it happen in NJ in our lifetimes
 
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