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- Thread starter Jorge4467
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OP you need to do some self reflection. You have a smart, nice, affectionate wife at home so I don't understand why you'd get hung up on getting the proper "GFE" experience from providers. You should already getting that love at home. You need to see the hobby as just that: a hobby. It's a fun thing to spend some money on. I don't get hung up on the fact that my golf coach wouldn't be spending his Saturday morning golfing with me if I weren't paying him money.
As long as the women are there by their own agency I don't see what the problem is. Their body their choice. This hobby is perfectly legal in much of Europe and the rest of the developed world for that reason. When I first started I was worried about this angle, having reach much of the US media's scaremongering about trafficking, and I'm always on the lookout for it, but to the best of my ability I've never detected anything remotely close to this. But if this worries you, you can stick to indies who speak English well, where this is clearly not even a remote concern. When you compare your average AMP worker's lifestyle to that of a young Chinese woman working 996 in a textile factory back home for shit pay, though, it's not hard to understand why they'd prefer this. I'd probably do the same in their shoes.
As long as the women are there by their own agency I don't see what the problem is. Their body their choice. This hobby is perfectly legal in much of Europe and the rest of the developed world for that reason. When I first started I was worried about this angle, having reach much of the US media's scaremongering about trafficking, and I'm always on the lookout for it, but to the best of my ability I've never detected anything remotely close to this. But if this worries you, you can stick to indies who speak English well, where this is clearly not even a remote concern. When you compare your average AMP worker's lifestyle to that of a young Chinese woman working 996 in a textile factory back home for shit pay, though, it's not hard to understand why they'd prefer this. I'd probably do the same in their shoes.
I'm in this hobby because I'm not currently in a relationship. If I was in a good relationship, I'd quit the hobby.
No judgment on those who do differently. But I don't want to damage a real relationship for women who don't even care about me.
Even if you think your partner doesn't know, women have a sixth sense about these things. They know on some level even if they don't have proof. For me, it's just not worth it. Again no judgment just my opinion and experience.
No judgment on those who do differently. But I don't want to damage a real relationship for women who don't even care about me.
Even if you think your partner doesn't know, women have a sixth sense about these things. They know on some level even if they don't have proof. For me, it's just not worth it. Again no judgment just my opinion and experience.
You hit the nail in the head. The post nut clarity sets in and hits you hard. Happens all the time with my UTR because she's not young and not that great looking either. She's pushing the GILF age but I'm in denial and pretend she is still a MILF. Her massage is on point and puss is good and tight. And after I've nutted I feel weird because I don't know what to do after especially when she gets into it. I don't feel like getting intimate with her after the service and that's when the guilt starts setting in.
On the other hand, with my ATF, I long for more. I know I'm just one of the guys that she sees but when I'm with her I feel like she treats me like I'm her King. It's totally different and she knows me too well and gets me going. I don't see her just a whore but I do realize that she is one because this is her way of making a living. Not sure if that makes sense. She fills a void in my relationship that is missing with my SO. I also know that this relationship is not going to go anywhere, it's more like a fantasy that I am living to escape my reality. I guess it is my drug of choice and I'm addicted somewhat to this drug. The difference is I'm a functional addict where I can control the urge and I don't neglect my other responsibilities.
I know this post is getting long but prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. There's a reason for that, it keeps certain marriages and unions functional. There are a lot of closeted mongers out there who still think they are above this women and won't admit that they are Johns. These holier than thou ones are usually the first ones to condemn the profession because they are in denial. These women serves a vital service to society that neither the government nor our spouses can fill, which is whatever reason we go see these whores. I guess seeing them is better than seeing a therapist. It's like that Green Day song Basket Case:
And I went to a shrink
To analyze my dreams
She says it’s lack of sex that’s bringing me down
And I went to a whore
He said my life’s a bore
So quit my whining ’cause it’s bringing her down
On the other hand, with my ATF, I long for more. I know I'm just one of the guys that she sees but when I'm with her I feel like she treats me like I'm her King. It's totally different and she knows me too well and gets me going. I don't see her just a whore but I do realize that she is one because this is her way of making a living. Not sure if that makes sense. She fills a void in my relationship that is missing with my SO. I also know that this relationship is not going to go anywhere, it's more like a fantasy that I am living to escape my reality. I guess it is my drug of choice and I'm addicted somewhat to this drug. The difference is I'm a functional addict where I can control the urge and I don't neglect my other responsibilities.
I know this post is getting long but prostitution is the oldest profession in the world. There's a reason for that, it keeps certain marriages and unions functional. There are a lot of closeted mongers out there who still think they are above this women and won't admit that they are Johns. These holier than thou ones are usually the first ones to condemn the profession because they are in denial. These women serves a vital service to society that neither the government nor our spouses can fill, which is whatever reason we go see these whores. I guess seeing them is better than seeing a therapist. It's like that Green Day song Basket Case:
And I went to a shrink
To analyze my dreams
She says it’s lack of sex that’s bringing me down
And I went to a whore
He said my life’s a bore
So quit my whining ’cause it’s bringing her down
I often feel the same way. After a number of years in this 'hobby' I realize that sometimes I am better off whacking off than getting a HE. Sometimes it doesnt feel right, I feel like a slime ball lying there getting cleaned up. Other times, as someone said, if you see the same girl a number of times, it feels better. One or two FS woman make me feel great, others have been mechanical and boring. That makes me feel bad and I tell myself i won't do it anymore. It's def an addiction - and being married for far too long with no physical part in my marriage, it is nice to get touched, right?
Ill add this......my buddy has an above average low 40s wife, overall attractive. He hobbied sparingly and then the last years was going every week or 2 at the least. We had drinks one night BS'ing about the hobby and he told me that even tho his wife put out and did anything he wanted (weekends mainly) he wasnt satisfied. after talking I came to the conclusion it was just simple attention. The working girls wash us, they rub us, they pay attention. He never realized it but that was the missing key. fast forward a few months and he and his wife went to a marriage counselor after he told her that he felt kinda distant and empty and wanted to talk to someone, basically said he was depressed kind of sorts. after a few sessions he brought it up and they had done couples massages on vacations and said to her that pampering is what he missed. Hes not hobbying anymore, his wife actually offered to take care of him. just about every weekend they give eachother massages and do their thing and he says she pays alot more attention to him. I bust his chops that hes the housewife banging the pool boy for attention but he seems happy and according to him the wife offers it all up more than ever. not sure this helps you but maybe an option
i am single and never been in a relationship and also have never gotten "free" sex if that is even possible. I agree with you 100% and also have times when i feel like crap on the way home from a bad experience. On the other hand, when I meet someone good usually GFE and have an amazing time, I feel like a king even if its for an hour and think how impossible it is to give up this hobby. Yes I have a problem, i don't think im alone in this.
Although i am inexperienced with women in general, I would disagree with you about calling these girls whores. Yes, they do this for money and yes it is transactional, but they are humans too. Even though I have never been in a relationship or received "free" sex through hookup/gf/fwb, I often hear my friends say these relationships are also transactional. I do not see women as being any different from men. They want and desire the same things in life whether its money or sexual pleasure. I can be a gentlemen 1 day and a horny monger the next, nothing different from a church going girl and club slut. These are not 2 different people.
Although i am inexperienced with women in general, I would disagree with you about calling these girls whores. Yes, they do this for money and yes it is transactional, but they are humans too. Even though I have never been in a relationship or received "free" sex through hookup/gf/fwb, I often hear my friends say these relationships are also transactional. I do not see women as being any different from men. They want and desire the same things in life whether its money or sexual pleasure. I can be a gentlemen 1 day and a horny monger the next, nothing different from a church going girl and club slut. These are not 2 different people.