What made you guys start hobbying? This is my story.

I was just thinking about this the other day. I love my gf. I've had several gfs in my life. I've dated many non pros. None of them can suck dick like some of the pros I've seen in my 8+yrs of real hobbying.

Now fucking, many of them can hang some better.

However imo non pro pussy to someone you have strong feelings-love is better than fucking pros.

which city though

Happy Thanksgiving to Everyone and thanks for sharing. You all gave good advice. LokittheWolf Please dont ever consider suicide or risking your Health over a Little piece of Pussy. As you get older and gain more experience You will realize that a women isn't worth all the Hassle and Bullshit that they put you trough.
Glad to see that am I am not alone when it comes to women. I woke this morning and turned on the Tv when I saw the Parade on Tv that set off a trigger and I starting thinking and getting depressed because I dont have a wife and family to take to the parade and Have Thanksgiving Dinner with.
I know that I am not a good looking guy I never had Chicks running after me or giving me their telephone numbers. Even tough I did have a lot to offer financially and was a nice guy. Nice Guys do Finish Last and Sleep Alone. So I said fuck this Why should I be denied a being with a Women.
I started the same way Automatic Slim did with the Hookers on 11th Ave There were some really Hot looking Chicks down their for $20.00. Then Became a regular at the Strip Clubs. God How I miss Queens Boulevard. That scumbag Guiliani had to close them all down. Why can't they just Legalize it So I single guys dont have to worry about getting Busted. All the Politicians are screwing around That Scumbag Guilani had 3 wifes. and he takes our fun away.
I felt the same way LokittheWolf felt when I see a couple holding hands or kissing. Now I say let the Bitch make his Life Miserable. Do you ever notice and I ask my self Why When I see a Hot Looking Girl is interested In some LOSER. who cant afford to buy her dinner or has no car. I have heard that Girls are attracted to bad boys because they find them intriguing or unpredictable. That what I have read. I dont understand Why .

Lokitthewolf do me a favor the next time you watch Tv Turn on one of the shows that have couples on that are having relationship problems example Jerry Springer, Maury, Catfish on Mtv, the Bachelor. etc. and see how fucked up these women really are and the Shit they will take from some loser and start crying. Yet they would not Date us.

LokittheWolf Here is piece of advice Dont every date a women with Kids Because Like a friend told me You are going to be paying and Supporting someone else's Kid I tired that I met this chick at a Church dance ( just because it is a Church event Doesn't mean that the women are any nicer ) . I was feeling week and vulnerable and felt bad for her She was divorced and just had a baby by another loser who left her and would not support the kid. So I stepped in and played temporary Dad. went to Church with her, Took her and the Baby to the Doctor, Paid to have security camera put in her apartment so she could keep an eye on the kid when the Babysitter was their. Then the Bitch turns around and tells me she stills loves the baby's father. I said why the Fuck did you start going out with me You Stupid Bitch. You wouldnt even kiss me but You let this Loser Knock You up and leave you with a Kid to raise. I found out late that that Loser was cheating on her. and got another girl pregnant. Here I cant get a kiss and this fuckin Loser is getting Pussy. A COUPLE OF MONTHS LATER I sent her a used rubber in the mail and said you should have used one of these Now look Your BARE FOOT AND PREGNANT.

I look at some of my friends that have Old ladies and How they constantly break their balls. and control them and tell them what they can and cannot do. The first time I met my friends brother he asked me if I was married I said no He told me I was a genius. I said I would like to get married He told me If you want to get married Find a women that you Hate, buy the Bitch a House, get rid of all your Toys, Give her your car and all your Money then go live with her and you will be miserable for the rest of your Life. A Wise Old Irishmen once told me stay away from the God Damn Pussy and you will be better off If you need it that bad Buy a Playboy and use your hand or Dial a Hooker. A man will go Stark Raven Mad just to get a Little Piece of the Pussy.

Hey Automatic Slim I with you I like the younger stuff I cant wake up next to some grey haired old lady. My Dick would never forgive itself. Maybe a trip to Thailand would help I heard women a cheap over their.

Lokit being Single is not the end of the world at least you can have piece of mind and go to sleep at night not hating the Bitch . Get yourself in Physical Shape and Financial Shape Look at Trump he can afford $100,000 Pornstar. Take care Guys and Be Safe. Hey does anyone Know if New York Dolls on Murray Street is still open Loved it When they would have the Big Titted Porn Stars on Stage

which city though

I hear you. Love is priceless and that connection when you’re “connected” is what id describe as nirvana
But in terms of pleasure, there is something I’ve heard when I was younger and still believe to this day. That’s “all girls pussies feel the same. What differentiates girls is how they interact during sex(how they ride you, how they pull you in, how they push back into you as you push into them k9, and again how they bj)”I’ve mentioned this before on this board that I go to AMPs not to be serviced but to service hot girls with body features I like that are hard to find in Asians.
but yes most girls can keep up when it comes to presenting themselves to you. Providers take it an extra step with ACG followed by a 180 spin to RACG. But to be honest nothing feels good like a gently used v that you can go in raw. And if you have the cherry on top of a civilian girl that is a freak, you’ve hit the local jackpot my friends

Hey guys, I just wanted to share my story with you guys. Maybe there are other guys here that are on the same boat as me. I wanted to share with you guys why I started hobbying. And I would like to hear your stories as well. After you guys finish reading this, you’ll either know how I feel or make fun of me. Either response is ok with me and appreciated. Here’s my story:
On November 17, 2015 I almost took my own life.
I was in nursing school at the time. I was burnt out, I was depressed, I was tired, I wanted to die. Death was in my mind 24/7. I was going through ANOTHER REJECTION by a girl I had a crush on in church. She was the 1000000th girl (obviously I lost count) that has rejected me. I have been rejected for so many reasons: my weight, my looks, my financial status, my race (im Latino with yellow fever, so most girls I’ve crushed on were Asian), for being a nice guy, because i was too “young”, because they were already taken or they liked someone else, I just didn’t meet up to their standards. I became bulimic and tried to lose as much weight as I can so I can become attractive and get someone to like me, I became in better shape and felt more confident in myself...but even that didn’t work and I was still getting rejected or friendzoned. I could have been killed by cardiac arrest because of my unhealthy methods of losing weight.
All these rejections made me feel like I wasn’t good enough and that I would never find someone and be alone the rest of my life. This made me wanting to end my life. I was desperately trying to find painless ways to die. But unfortunately there is no painless way to go. My classmates and professors in nursing school knew something was wrong with me, so they called an ambulance and I was sent to the ER. That’s where I was diagnosed with bulimia, generalized anxiety disorder, and depression. I was referred to therapy and was prescribed medications.
During those past 4 years after my suicide attempt, I have been working on myself and working hard to where I am today....but I was still getting rejected. One rejection made me stop going to church and that made me eventually lose my faith in god. I was rejected again at my new school in this program where I was studying another career. The coolest women I have ever met turned me down after I asked her out on a date because I was too young for her. And most recently I stopped trying to meet up with a friend I had a crush on because it was obvious she was interested in someone else who lives in Canada....everytime me and her hang out, she would always be texting this guy. I even looked over at her phone and the conversation was about them planning to meet up. That’s when I decided to give up on her. Then I tried dating apps and it was a failure. The dumbest thing I did was pay money to use a dating app. Paying just to be rejected and ignored by those that I liked on the app. It came to a point where I just became tired. My mind was tired. My heart is tired. It made me decide to give up and I am scared to like someone again.
Today I am still fighting depression and generalized anxiety disorder. My depression is triggered when I see happy couples when I am out either on the streets, or on the subway for example. I have recovered from bulimia but I still have trouble enjoying food without feeling guilty. I am trying to get fit the right way by going to the gym, but I am doing it for myself and not for women. My body has become stronger and healthier. I graduated and I have a well paying job in a field where I feel confident and that I enjoy.
I am learning to love myself better and not give a fuck of what others think about me.
Am I happy? No. But am I ok? Meh.
The reason I wanted to share this is to show the psychological effects of rejection. I haven’t even had my first kiss.
Rejection and friendzoning is something that many joke about but never think about how painful it is for someone who has to go through it. It’s a horrible thing to go through.
People would call me thirsty...but there’s nothing wrong with desiring love and affection. It is a human need. We are not meant to live life alone.....BUT...loneliness and rejection lead me down a very dark path...and that’s hobbying. Last year when I met up with one of my closest bro’s who I haven’t seen in a long time to watch a World Cup game at a bar on Roosevelt, he asked me how things were going with the ladies...and I told him that I still have no luck. He told me that he knew places where...*you know* and if I wanted to go, that he’ll take me. I turned down the offer. One year later, my 26th birthday was coming up and I still had my v-card. The girl I like at the time (same girl mentioned before who had something going on with the Canadian guy), I was 100% she didn’t have her v-card, which wouldn’t be fair if I ever got with her. And it’s a fact that in this generation, many women my age don’t have their v-cards anymore...and I still did. It was unacceptable for me to be almost 26 and still have my v-card and I knew I was going no where with this girl. I was lonely and my Yellow Fever and manly needs weren’t being met. So I hit my bro up and I told him “let’s go, it’s time” he knew what I meant. He took me and I gave away my v-card at 83-33 (those who know Elmhurst know which place I’m taking about) to a provider named Lina. It was horrible because I didn’t last, and if I wanted another set of protection, I had to pay again. I went back again a few weeks later and met Angela. Me and Angela became very close and we talked a lot, she gave me her number, and we met up a couple more times. Angela left 8333 and did incall in flushing where I would meet her in some apartment, then she worked at a spa on Kissena where I saw her for the very last time...she left to Chicago and haven’t heard from her since. after that I hobbied more times and met different providers like others at 8333, Whitney milfs, or incalls. I would tell them my story and they would tell me things like “I’m very handsome, I’m too young to be stressing out, be positive, have confidence, and that that special girl will come someday” I wish I can believe them but I don’t. Hobbying hasn’t really alleviated my loneliness, yea I have a great time but then when the session is over, I am back to the reality of loneliness and depression because I know the bond I had with the provider wasn’t real because I paid them....same with Angela. I don’t think I was special to her as she was to me. I’ve been thinking to stopping the hobby, especially since it’s a very expensive addiction. Loneliness and rejection has lead me down the dark path of hobbying...and it’s been a path I’ve been trying to get out of. Happy thanksgiving guys (I don’t celebrate it, but whatever), hearing from you guys would much be appreciated.

Dude, depression sucks. Hope you are seeing a therapist and getting professional help. If you are not, there is no shame seeking help for mental heath.


I like fucking, sex work is normal. Started in Japan for me because its the norm in Asia to go see sex workers for business and etc... (although their treatment of women is horrendus) There is nothing morally wrong with participating in sex work on either sides.

Its awesome to hear that you are getting into shape and making progressive decisions for better health physically and mentally.

Also why are people so hung up on monogamy?

Because in any relationship if you don't have trust you don't have ANYTHING.

Perhaps. But I’ve experienced multiple unfaithful women. I’m skeptical that monogamy is worth worrying about. I think many men are being cheated on and don’t know it. I even raised a child who turned out not to be mine. I’ve managed to absorb the shocks and keep going. As the song says: “The first cut is the deepest”

Good morning, gentlemen,
Have any of your heard from the young man who started this thread? I have yet to. I wonder if he is okay.

And I wonder if our stories/advice have been some help to him. I certainly feel that I have learned a thing or two from this thread!

Wow.
That's rough.
I would like to ask a question. Feel free to say "none of your beeswax" if you like.
When the kid was born, did you think about not signing the birth certificate until you had a paternity test?
I know that sounds odd, but with so many states requiring the birth certificate signer to assume child support payments (EVEN if the kid is not his), it would seem, to me anyway, the prudent thing to do. In fact it should be common practice in the hospitals. I have read that this is quite common. Women screwing around on their husbands and passing the kid off as his. I will almost certainly never be married, let alone expecting a kid, but if I was, I would ABSLOLUTEY require a paternity test before signing the certificate.

Wow.
That's rough.
I would like to ask a question. Feel free to say "none of your beeswax" if you like.
When the kid was born, did you think about not signing the birth certificate until you had a paternity test?
I know that sounds odd, but with so many states requiring the birth certificate signer to assume child support payments (EVEN if the kid is not his), it would seem, to me anyway, the prudent thing to do. In fact it should be common practice in the hospitals. I have read that this is quite common. Women screwing around on their husbands and passing the kid off as his. I will almost certainly never be married, let alone expecting a kid, but if I was, I would ABSLOLUTEY require a paternity test before signing the certificate.

Here's a link to NY State law on paternity during marriage.
It's downright frightening. Terrifying even.
Men really have almost no rights within a marriage.

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/Family/paternityMarried.shtml

So, I will share how i got into mongering right after I say, fuck em dude! If they didn't dig you for YOU then you didn't need any of the women who rejected you! You seem like a chill guy who just had a serious wave of bad beats. Im pretty sure youll find the one you want in the near future .... OR... You'll read my story and decide mongering is the way to go!

So... I started mongering 4 shorts years ago. My entire life, I never had a problem meeting women. It was actually pretty easy for me. I guess the combination of decent looks plus I have a very outgoing personality worked in my favor. By the time I was 25 I had already been with about 75 girls (college was just an all out fuckfest with any and every girl in my dorm) and the allure of banging girls for sport kinda wore off so I met someone I developed feelings for and we started dating. The sex was amazing the 1st couple of years and then we decided to get married. As a 27 year old married guy with a good career, making a great salary, and a good looking woman at home youd think I was getting pussy non stop huh? WRONG!!! The sex basically stopped 7 or 8 months after we got married. I know plenty of people who said its normal blah blah blah. I considered cheating to get my rocks off but couldn't pull the trigger. I talked with her about it... Got me nowhere but more frustrated. Eventually, we grew apart totally and by the age of 31 I was going through a shitty divorce in which I lost a house, new truck, and $4k a month all because I was the primary bread winner and the change of lifestyle rule was still in play at the time in NYState. (Motherfucker the law changed 2 years after i got divorced!!!!)

So, there i was, a 31 year old bachelor with no obligations other than court ordered monetary payouts (luckily we had no kids, how could we if we never fucked?!?) I decided to give this social media thing a shot for the first time and it was like being 21 all over again. I started meeting up with old friends and a year into the dating game, met someone I knew casually years before. We hooked up and like my first real relationship, the sex was amazing. She let me do things that my ex wife would never do... Anal sex, slapping, choking etc. We got serious over a few years time and I ended up getting married for a 2nd time. Not because I really wanted to... The sour taste of divorce was still present in my mouth, but I got her pregnant and I figured I would do the right thing. I thought the cycle was going to rear its ugly head once again with no sex like in my first marriage, but even during pregnancy I was getting regular blowjobs, sex all the time and i was content with life as a married man for the first time in my life. The baby was born and naturally the sex diminished but I actually understood that. Sexual encounters with wife #2 became further and further apart. Fast forward 8 years into my 2nd marriage. Life is good... Outside the home. I mean, my relationship with my kid and my dog is awesome, much better than I could ever have hoped for... But in that 8 years I probably only had sex about 15 times! Literally, 15 times to be exact because I counted and logged them in a private computer based journal just to see how often I DONT get sex. I wondered, "how in the good fuck did I end up in this situation twice with 2 different marriages??!!"
Now, its not like I kept myself backed up all those years either. I jacked off every morning and sometimes at night just to stay somewhat sane in that dept. I would fantasize about the young girls who worked for me while I rubbed one out. Eventually it got old and dull and after talking to the wife until blue in the face, I said fuck this I'm gonna go get some pussy!!! What I didn't realize was that time had passed and I got older along with it. No longer was I going to be able to pull hot young girls like I did in my 20s. So I started going out once a week with my friends to bars where I figured I'd pick up a drink chick here and there and do the deed. Didn't happen as I had hoped. Just struck out time after time and then I thought to myself, "I don't want another relationship thats going to go sexless, nor do I want to leave my home as a result of having an affair, and i definitely don't want to leave my child!" Once again, I would end up sexless and no matter how much I talked to the wife it did no good. I started to wonder if she was cheating on me which I will never know anyway if she's smart, but yet again it go me nowhere.

Another year went by and I had not logged into my journal once about having sex. Not once. My marriage had become a tragic tale of "we are together for the kid" which I suppose is fine but not the life I wanted to live any longer. I started to become depressed over it and decided it was time to see a therapist. Even after all the suggestions he made, i was not getting my needs fulfilled at home. My therapist and I actually became pretty tight and became friends. We even went out for a drink after work one day which was where he opened up about his own marriage and how he was going through the exact same thing as me. That's when he slipped me a number and said to do myself a favor and call this person, and that it will change my life, hopefully for the better. That's all he said before he got up and left Lol. I was a bit drunk and thought it was just some random lady he could help me get lucky with or something but it was the number to a provider. She asked me questions and then asked if I was ready to come see her s. Thats when it hit me that this is an escort. I agreed to go see her and it was the best experience id had in years! Without details, it was everything i was missing in my life. My therapist couldn't be more correct when he said it would change my life. I began seeing this provider once a week then it increased to twice a week. She told me she was going back to Europe for a while but had a few friends she could recommend for me. Needless to say I have been mongering ever since and I do believe it saved me from going insane. After 2 sexless marriages, mongering is how I get my rocks off. It honestly makes me a better person because I no longer feel the edge I had when i was getting no sex at all. Sure its a little risky but what isn't nowadays? Point is, while I see this porr fellas dilemma and frustration of being rejected multiple times, the grass isn't always greener on the other side and if I could do it all over again in life, I'd still have my kid, but I would have started mongering much earlier on lol.