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Your thoughts.. What makes a provider more providing ?

Bit

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Not so strange, to gift things to a provider, especially if she doesn’t accept more tip amount than a standard HJ when she does FS, (only did for me, LOL)
This is a space where listening and thoughtfulness counts.

I recall a girl that liked cherries so I bought a bag of ripe ones at the beginning of the season. It tasted better than the cheap stuff from the Flushing fruit stands. Scored a two hour amazing session.

I recall another that likes wine. I broght back some tasty yet inexpensive stuff from a vineyard I visited for her. Moved the action to another level as she acted like a true GF and not a provider. It was completely different from her already fulfilling sessions.

It is not spending a ton of money. It is setting yourself apart.
 

Srhsrh

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Maybe. But the more popular girls get a LOT of gifts, sometimes very expensive. So giving a small gift may not endear you to her as much as you think. It also sucks when you go out and shop for a "special" gift (which can take time and mental effort) and then she gives you a slightly dismissive look when you give it to her. It happens.

I do agree that you should distinguish yourself in a positive way from the crowd. Texting and humor are ideal ways to do that and they don't cost anything and you can do it during your idle time (like when you are bored silly in a meeting). If you do it enough, you can recycle engaging conversations and schtick between different providers.
I've taken to asking ahead for my regular girls if they need anything before i come. By me it isnt always easy for the girls to get out to a grocery store, cosmetics, or perhaps some sort of specialty food they are craving and its easy and cheap for me to get some sushi, nail polish, etc. Its easy if you have wechat or kakao with the girl. I've done same for MMS when calling to make appointments too. In the scheme of it all, it isnt expensive.
 

Srhsrh

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I agree about how nice it is to feel like the girl is not on the clock. Too many girls have a script that they follow that makes the whole thing seem rehearsed (which it no doubt is). To me, it only feels like you are not ON the clock if she truly does not seem to care about time. My favorite providers are the ones who let the session go overtime, sometimes up to 30 minutes over. I typically do the TS at the end (to get all the spa smells off me) and one well-reviewed provider used to spend almost a half hour in there with me (which was the best part of the session).

Of course, it depends on how busy the spa is. If other customers are waiting (and you can tell by how often the doorbell sounds), that's not going to happen and that's fine. But assuming the joint is empty, if she really is an ATF and you are taking good care of her, going over time should be one of the perks you get.

@Koondog - That's a good tip. Unfortunately, for some of us, we can waste half the day traveling back and forth to Flushing. Especially on a weekday.
Most girls I see do not charge me the time spent in the TS as part of my session. I dont know if this is normal or not for others. I'm led to believe I get this treatment because I'm a loyal customer.

I think i've mentioned here that there is one girl who has taken to providing grooming as part of the TS. she shaves my privates, trims my hair, eyebrows, and does korean body scrub. It all takes a significant amount of time, but this spa isnt busy so she normally has the time free. If she shorts me on time because a customer comes in towards the end of my massage, i know i'll get it back next time. Besides there isnt much more intimate than a girl lathering up your balls and shaving them as a prelude to what comes next in the room. I joke with her that this is a great way to get me back in the spa, as it begins to itch from the stubble in less than 2 weeks.


I asked a different girl one time, how she adjusted her massage from her normal one hour session, to the 90 minute session i typically ask for. Her answer was basically this:
1. for a 30 minute massage she basically did each motion 10 times and went around the body once.
2. for a 60 minute massage she did the same thing, then repeated it.
3. for a 90 minute massage she repeated twice.

Her massage was never impressive, i saw her for other reasons. but it was illuminating to know she could clock watch and time things without ever looking at a clock.
 

Kinosellis

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Lol I can say From personal experience with private relationships on the DL with girls in four of the most common amps/joints in nyc that are on the front page of this board. The girls have said repeatedly that they don’t care about the little gifts and they’d rather have the cash even if it’s just 5 dollars lol. They’re not going to be pigs and be ungrateful to your face. But, they’d rather have the money. I’m just letting you know.

Unless the girl specifically asks for something, then it’s not something they want. Also, if they ask for something it’s 99% going to be something asian especially if it’s food. They do not typically like American stuff like chocolate and etc. no matter how well they sell it to you.

In regards to getting extra time, you’re not going get that in a popular place. They don’t have the time to waste. If you’re going to a dead spa and you’re a regular then they don’t care cause they think of it as a non cash marketing expense. Generally, they hate it when we overstay they’ll put up with it cause they want the regulars. There’s only a small hobby community and it’s the same punters every day so they need the regulars to keep it going. It is possible that the girl likes you. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

What I’m trying to say is being nice and respectful is always going to help. But let’s not get delusional. The best thing you can do is be clean, respectful and come regularly. The rest is just fantasy.

I knew a girl that ended up with a guy. The guy obviously had serious feelings and intentions. The girl did enough to keep the relationship going but you can only fake it for so long so the relationship is slowly failing.
 

TGBeldin

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This is a space where listening and thoughtfulness counts.

I recall a girl that liked cherries so I bought a bag of ripe ones at the beginning of the season. It tasted better than the cheap stuff from the Flushing fruit stands. Scored a two hour amazing session.

I recall another that likes wine. I broght back some tasty yet inexpensive stuff from a vineyard I visited for her. Moved the action to another level as she acted like a true GF and not a provider. It was completely different from her already fulfilling sessions.

It is not spending a ton of money. It is setting yourself apart.
Absolutely!
 

Koondog

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Lol I can say From personal experience with private relationships on the DL with girls in four of the most common amps/joints in nyc that are on the front page of this board. The girls have said repeatedly that they don’t care about the little gifts and they’d rather have the cash even if it’s just 5 dollars lol. They’re not going to be pigs and be ungrateful to your face. But, they’d rather have the money. I’m just letting you know.

Unless the girl specifically asks for something, then it’s not something they want. Also, if they ask for something it’s 99% going to be something asian especially if it’s food. They do not typically like American stuff like chocolate and etc. no matter how well they sell it to you.

In regards to getting extra time, you’re not going get that in a popular place. They don’t have the time to waste. If you’re going to a dead spa and you’re a regular then they don’t care cause they think of it as a non cash marketing expense. Generally, they hate it when we overstay they’ll put up with it cause they want the regulars. There’s only a small hobby community and it’s the same punters every day so they need the regulars to keep it going. It is possible that the girl likes you. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

What I’m trying to say is being nice and respectful is always going to help. But let’s not get delusional. The best thing you can do is be clean, respectful and come regularly. The rest is just fantasy.

I knew a girl that ended up with a guy. The guy obviously had serious feelings and intentions. The girl did enough to keep the relationship going but you can only fake it for so long so the relationship is slowly failing.
"The girl did enough to keep the relationship going but you can only fake it for so long so the relationship is slowly failing."

Absolutely. Even the best actresses eventually give themselves away if you see them long enough.

Maybe that's why their marriage proposals to us come within a month or 2 of meeting them ,lol.
 

AutomaticSlim

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I've only ever given perfume
"Providing" is a pretty broad term overall.
Some girls can just "provide" a youthful body or a nice rack and the service is already halfway decent lol
100% agree.
I would take a petite, screaming hot 22 y/o who just lays there over a 30 something that swings from the chandeliers.
Every. Single. Time.
 

Koondog

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I've only ever given perfume

100% agree.
I would take a petite, screaming hot 22 y/o who just lays there over a 30 something that swings from the chandeliers.
Every. Single. Time.
lol Slim. I don't want a girl young or older who just lays there like a dead fish. Act like you're interested or you're not seeing my ass ( or wallet) again, lol
 

Srhsrh

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Lol I can say From personal experience with private relationships on the DL with girls in four of the most common amps/joints in nyc that are on the front page of this board. The girls have said repeatedly that they don’t care about the little gifts and they’d rather have the cash even if it’s just 5 dollars lol. They’re not going to be pigs and be ungrateful to your face. But, they’d rather have the money. I’m just letting you know.

Unless the girl specifically asks for something, then it’s not something they want. Also, if they ask for something it’s 99% going to be something asian especially if it’s food. They do not typically like American stuff like chocolate and etc. no matter how well they sell it to you.

In regards to getting extra time, you’re not going get that in a popular place. They don’t have the time to waste. If you’re going to a dead spa and you’re a regular then they don’t care cause they think of it as a non cash marketing expense. Generally, they hate it when we overstay they’ll put up with it cause they want the regulars. There’s only a small hobby community and it’s the same punters every day so they need the regulars to keep it going. It is possible that the girl likes you. But I wouldn’t bet on it.

What I’m trying to say is being nice and respectful is always going to help. But let’s not get delusional. The best thing you can do is be clean, respectful and come regularly. The rest is just fantasy.

I knew a girl that ended up with a guy. The guy obviously had serious feelings and intentions. The girl did enough to keep the relationship going but you can only fake it for so long so the relationship is slowly failing.
I've been doing this spa thing seriously for like 15 years now. somewhere between 1 in 3 and 1 in 4 of the older (retired) providers i got close to are married to an american now. Dont know any that married and got divorced. So something must work out for them. Where I go (New England) . the spas are mostly quiet, the exceptions being the ones renowned for FS. The girls honestly dont hate it when someone overstays, as long as they are prepped for the next customer and can bolt if he comes in. I've often hung out eating with the girls, and shooting the shit. these girls do get bored, and they can tell some outrageous stories....
 

Srhsrh

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I've only ever given perfume

100% agree.
I would take a petite, screaming hot 22 y/o who just lays there over a 30 something that swings from the chandeliers.
Every. Single. Time.
I know a 33 year old girl with a foul mouth,a long tongue and a voracious appetite for sex (and money) who can change your mind in a hurry about that.
 

Koondog

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How would you know if they got divorced or not? They wouldn't be bold enough to keep in touch with old clients behind hubby's back now would they?
 

benzy45

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I've only ever given perfume

100% agree.
I would take a petite, screaming hot 22 y/o who just lays there over a 30 something that swings from the chandeliers.
Every. Single. Time.
Yeah I think you're in the minority here. The dead fish that puts in no effort can make junior head south in a NY minute. I don't care how hot or young she is as this is a participation sport. Effort is required.
 

AutomaticSlim

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Yeah I think you're in the minority here. The dead fish that puts in no effort can make junior head south in a NY minute. I don't care how hot or young she is as this is a participation sport. Effort is required.
I probably am in the minority.
But still, I like what I like.
Of course a hot, young one who is into it is the best.
But I would still take the young hot one who just lays there over the 30 something that goes nuts.
See my most recent review...
 

AutomaticSlim

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lol Slim. I don't want a girl young or older who just lays there like a dead fish. Act like you're interested or you're not seeing my ass ( or wallet) again, lol
KD, I suppose this is just something that I was conditioned to very early on.
I saw streetwalkers from age 20 to 29. I would always pick the young, hot ones (and back in the 80s / early 90s there were LOADS of young, hot ones).
Trust me, NO streetwalker is EVER into the session. So for the first nine years of my "mongering career", it was find the youngest, hottest, freshest looking one on 11th or Park Ave, and bang away while she laid there. So girls laying there is not a big deal to me.

Fortunately most of the girls I see do not just lay there anymore. But when one does, it's no biggie.
 

bronzeharbor

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No matter how hot the chick, dead fish kills the vibe for me, especially if I'm dropping $$$
If I wanted dead fish I'd go to a Flushing FH for a bargain lol
 

Koondog

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KD, I suppose this is just something that I was conditioned to very early on.
I saw streetwalkers from age 20 to 29. I would always pick the young, hot ones (and back in the 80s / early 90s there were LOADS of young, hot ones).
Trust me, NO streetwalker is EVER into the session. So for the first nine years of my "mongering career", it was find the youngest, hottest, freshest looking one on 11th or Park Ave, and bang away while she laid there. So girls laying there is not a big deal to me.

Fortunately most of the girls I see do not just lay there anymore. But when one does, it's no biggie.
Where would you bang the streetwalkers? The car?
 

AutomaticSlim

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Where would you bang the streetwalkers? The car?
The first year or so, yes.
After that? Why The Liberty Inn of course!
$29 for 3 hours and all the porn you can watch!
My regular in 89/90 was Kelly from 45th Street & 11th. Looked like a young Jill Ireland.
I used to do 2 hour sessions with her at The Liberty. $250 for Kelly and $29 for the room. Miss those days!
 

TGBeldin

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How would you know if they got divorced or not? They wouldn't be bold enough to keep in touch with old clients behind hubby's back now would they?
I know you have a difficult time believing this, but "keep in touch with" is not synonymous with "keep having sex with".

Yes, a number are FULLY retired, married, and stay in touch with me.
 
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