Your Constitutional Right

[krideynyc]

Uh, no one said the Constitution didn't apply to the states. You seem to have a habit of incorporating statements in your argument that no one actually made.

I was referring to the fact that States can have laws that are contrary. So applying the constiutionality factor was incorrect. You have a tendency to mix up facts in your arguments.

And, yes, even laws against extreme crimes like murder, rape, arson, etc have to be passed at the state level. Why? Because the Constitution does not explicitly address those things. There are Federal laws against those crimes as well, but those only apply in very specific circumstances (like if they occur on Federal property).

Exactly my point when I made the reminder of Article IV. None of this would be possible without it. And why your statement it does not prohibit prostitution was incorrect.

 

[krideynyc]

Quite a few constitutional scholars here, lucky us.

Don't need to be a Constiutional Scholar. Most of what we're discussing is basic facts.

 

[VJLUTZ]

I was referring to the fact that States can have laws that are contrary. So applying the constiutionality factor was incorrect. You have a tendency to mix up facts in your arguments.

Exactly my point when I made the reminder of Article IV. None of this would be possible without it. And why your statement it does not prohibit prostitution was incorrect.

Yes, Article IV is a mechanism by which the states can decide to make activities illegal. However, my point was that the Constitution does not explicitly compel them to make those activities illegal. Which is why states could choose to keep prostitution legal (as Nevada has done for some counties).

It's really not that complicated.

 

[krideynyc]

Yes, Article IV is a mechanism by which the states can decide to make activities illegal. However, my point was that the Constitution does not explicitly compel them to make those activities illegal. Which is why states could choose to keep prostitution legal (as Nevada has done for some counties).

It's really not that complicated.

It's not. Preaching to the choir here.

The fact that NY has started decriminalzing discussions at the State Senate level is what makes it a hot topic for me. Consider it my Pavloian Response like yours for JAV and Japan.

 

[kgmspa]

My (because selfishness) contst rights us a God given rights. No matter what you do. Is it enforcible ? The quandry of justice or simple "fairness"
What is our base? We will learn!

 

[Hardrobert]

An historical note - at the Constitutional convention it was proposed, muchly debated, and ultimately not adopted that the Federal government would be able to disapprove of any state statute.
Also - as my fellow students of the Constitution correctly state above, Constitutionally there is nothing that makes murder a crime or illegal. In fact, until relatively recently, if you killed someone, including the President, it was a crime under the laws of the State in which the murder took place. Federal statutes making murder illegal are limited and only recently enacted. For those of you old enough to remember the JFK assasination, the removal of the body of JFK from the hospital to go back to DC was improper as the State of Texas had the jurisdiction, and was only accomplished because nobody was about to argue with a bunch of uzi armed and psyched Secret Service guys.

 

[Koujiao]

Don't need to be a Constiutional Scholar. Most of what we're discussing is basic facts.

I was being facetious.

 

[njlefty]

I shall note to my fellow Monger Constitutional Scholars that the 9th Amendment comes before that 10th Amendment giving the States certain rights.

And the 9th Amendment gives a monger the right to hire an adult woman in private for sexual services without fear of retribution, criminality, or intrusion without warrant.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

 

[krideynyc]

I shall note to my fellow Monger Constitutional Scholars that the 9th Amendment comes before that 10th Amendment giving the States certain rights.

But the Articles came before the Amendments.

 

[njlefty]

But the Articles came before the Amendments.

But if you look at the amendments cumulatively, the right to fuck a woman for money is still a right.

 

[krideynyc]

But if you look at the amendments cumulatively, the right to fuck a woman for money is still a right.

I agree, but we lack case law..

Also, I would like to note that newer Amendments takes precedence over older ones.

 

[DannyG]

Anyone that’s married basically fucks or used to fuck SO for money. It’s ain’t free, especially if you’re married.

 

[VJLUTZ]

But if you look at the amendments cumulatively, the right to fuck a woman for money is still a right.

You can legally pay a woman to fuck you on camera ('cause its "art"), but you can't pay her to fuck in private. I understand the reasoning, but I've always found it odd.

Maybe if you claim you're going to draw a picture of the sex afterwards, you'll be on safe ground? Even if its with stick figures.

 

[krideynyc]

You can legally pay a woman to fuck you on camera ('cause its "art"), but you can't pay her to fuck in private. I understand the reasoning, but I've always found it odd.

It's not odd. Porn has to be meant for public consumption for it to qualify. Doing it privately negates the "artistic" value.

 

[krideynyc]

Anyone that’s married basically fucks or used to fuck SO for money. It’s ain’t free, especially if you’re married.

The thousands of years of paying dowery for a bride should have establish historical precedence. But then we get back to the whole woman as chattel issue.

 

[kgmspa]

All this constitutional right talk is making me hungry. Pizza is a right. So are meatball parm sandwiches and cheese steak hogies

 

[njlefty]

All this constitutional right talk is making me hungry. Pizza is a right. So are meatball parm sandwiches and cheese steak hogies

Our right to order out for pizza or pussy shall not be infringed upon.

 

[krideynyc]

Our right to order out for pizza or pussy shall not be infringed upon.

Interesting concept to the term Chinese Takeout.

 

[Hardrobert]

The thousands of years of paying dowery for a bride should have establish historical precedence. But then we get back to the whole woman as chattel issue.

They aren't?
Ooops not I'm not being PC again.

 

[Waterboy]

This is all very interesting.
I'm beginning to figure it out and am learning quite a bit.