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For a guy in the top 10-20% of attractiveness with good social skills, you probably have a great chance with women, if your goal is to sleep with them.
If you're not in that upper echelon of desirability, you won't have the same level of success.
Dating apps make this even more pronounced.
I have several guy friends who get so many matches they don't bother responding to most of them. (50+ a week)
On the other hand, the majority of guys I know, including myself, get 0-2 a week on average.
Just the other day I overheard a conversation between two college age women where they bragged/complained about how they "only ever dated 10s."
These girls were rather attractive, but not drop dead gorgeous or models.
This is not an uncommon mindset. Women rated 80% of men as "below average," i.e. they don't want to hear back from them, on dating profiles.
This was based on an analysis by OkCupid back in 2015, before they were acquired by Match group and the articles were nuked. You can Google to find the archives.
All this is not to say you shouldn't try dating - you 100% should, ideally with the goal of enjoying yourself and having a good time (rather than just sex).
But, you need to improve yourself quite a bit above the "average" guy, for those conclusions to apply to you.
If you're not in that upper echelon of desirability, you won't have the same level of success.
Dating apps make this even more pronounced.
I have several guy friends who get so many matches they don't bother responding to most of them. (50+ a week)
On the other hand, the majority of guys I know, including myself, get 0-2 a week on average.
Just the other day I overheard a conversation between two college age women where they bragged/complained about how they "only ever dated 10s."
These girls were rather attractive, but not drop dead gorgeous or models.
This is not an uncommon mindset. Women rated 80% of men as "below average," i.e. they don't want to hear back from them, on dating profiles.
This was based on an analysis by OkCupid back in 2015, before they were acquired by Match group and the articles were nuked. You can Google to find the archives.
All this is not to say you shouldn't try dating - you 100% should, ideally with the goal of enjoying yourself and having a good time (rather than just sex).
But, you need to improve yourself quite a bit above the "average" guy, for those conclusions to apply to you.
Now that you mention it, I should really hire a professional style consultant and get some professional images done.
I've been wasting time swiping endlessly instead.
Anyway, as I said, if you're in the top 10-20% of desirability, you get way more matches.
This is a culmination of a lot of factors, but on dating apps in particular, boils down to demographics and photos.
Most of this becomes obvious to any guy who uses dating apps a decent amount that isn't in the top 10-20%.
Some guys get stuck on the demographics, i.e. age/height/race, also culture/language, but that's not a problem til you match.
You have no control over your age, height, and/or race.
If you're under 5'10", a lot of girls will filter automatically. 6'0"+ is ideal.
Same with age - obviously hard to match with girls that are over 10 years younger than you. Probably 27-28 is ideal for guys, if you're dating girls in their 20s.
The effect of race depends on where and what type of girls you want to date.
Most guys get stuck on the photos, simply because they are just "average".
Not everyone (both guys and girls), cleans up to a 9 or a 10.
Good photos are a necessity. They need to...
- Showcase physical attractiveness, fashion, and grooming
Outside of plastic surgery, you can't really improve physical attractiveness directly. Better diet/skin care will help a bit.
- Showcase you at interesting places doing interesting things
Both are important, but an excess of one or the other might get you matches on that alone.
I've been wasting time swiping endlessly instead.
Anyway, as I said, if you're in the top 10-20% of desirability, you get way more matches.
This is a culmination of a lot of factors, but on dating apps in particular, boils down to demographics and photos.
Most of this becomes obvious to any guy who uses dating apps a decent amount that isn't in the top 10-20%.
Some guys get stuck on the demographics, i.e. age/height/race, also culture/language, but that's not a problem til you match.
You have no control over your age, height, and/or race.
If you're under 5'10", a lot of girls will filter automatically. 6'0"+ is ideal.
Same with age - obviously hard to match with girls that are over 10 years younger than you. Probably 27-28 is ideal for guys, if you're dating girls in their 20s.
The effect of race depends on where and what type of girls you want to date.
Most guys get stuck on the photos, simply because they are just "average".
Not everyone (both guys and girls), cleans up to a 9 or a 10.
Good photos are a necessity. They need to...
- Showcase physical attractiveness, fashion, and grooming
Outside of plastic surgery, you can't really improve physical attractiveness directly. Better diet/skin care will help a bit.
- Showcase you at interesting places doing interesting things
Both are important, but an excess of one or the other might get you matches on that alone.
Now that you mention it, I should really hire a professional style consultant and get some professional images done.
I've been wasting time swiping endlessly instead.
Anyway, as I said, if you're in the top 10-20% of desirability, you get way more matches.
This is a culmination of a lot of factors, but on dating apps in particular, boils down to demographics and photos.
Most of this becomes obvious to any guy who uses dating apps a decent amount that isn't in the top 10-20%.
Some guys get stuck on the demographics, i.e. age/height/race, also culture/language, but that's not a problem til you match.
You have no control over your age, height, and/or race.
If you're under 5'10", a lot of girls will filter automatically. 6'0"+ is ideal.
Same with age - obviously hard to match with girls that are over 10 years younger than you. Probably 27-28 is ideal for guys, if you're dating girls in their 20s.
The effect of race depends on where and what type of girls you want to date.
Most guys get stuck on the photos, simply because they are just "average".
Not everyone (both guys and girls), cleans up to a 9 or a 10.
Good photos are a necessity. They need to...
- Showcase physical attractiveness, fashion, and grooming
Outside of plastic surgery, you can't really improve physical attractiveness directly. Better diet/skin care will help a bit.
- Showcase you at interesting places doing interesting things
Both are important, but an excess of one or the other might get you matches on that alone.
I've been wasting time swiping endlessly instead.
Anyway, as I said, if you're in the top 10-20% of desirability, you get way more matches.
This is a culmination of a lot of factors, but on dating apps in particular, boils down to demographics and photos.
Most of this becomes obvious to any guy who uses dating apps a decent amount that isn't in the top 10-20%.
Some guys get stuck on the demographics, i.e. age/height/race, also culture/language, but that's not a problem til you match.
You have no control over your age, height, and/or race.
If you're under 5'10", a lot of girls will filter automatically. 6'0"+ is ideal.
Same with age - obviously hard to match with girls that are over 10 years younger than you. Probably 27-28 is ideal for guys, if you're dating girls in their 20s.
The effect of race depends on where and what type of girls you want to date.
Most guys get stuck on the photos, simply because they are just "average".
Not everyone (both guys and girls), cleans up to a 9 or a 10.
Good photos are a necessity. They need to...
- Showcase physical attractiveness, fashion, and grooming
Outside of plastic surgery, you can't really improve physical attractiveness directly. Better diet/skin care will help a bit.
- Showcase you at interesting places doing interesting things
Both are important, but an excess of one or the other might get you matches on that alone.
My comments are dating app specific.
This behavior for women and men on dating apps who get endless matches is not so much being "picky," but rather a result of literally not having enough time to talk to every match.
Once you get to 10+ good matches a week, there's little incentive for you to be "less picky".
Even if most chats fizzle out, you can only go on so many dates a week.
This behavior for women and men on dating apps who get endless matches is not so much being "picky," but rather a result of literally not having enough time to talk to every match.
Once you get to 10+ good matches a week, there's little incentive for you to be "less picky".
Even if most chats fizzle out, you can only go on so many dates a week.