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Would/have you dated a provider?

TGBeldin

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I have been told by a few providers they worked at Asian food places for 500 a week 60 plus hours and why they chose being an AMP.Most have told me they like about 25-30 percent of their customers.
I would believe that 25-30 number is a good norm. With another 25-30 neutral, and the rest from bad to disgusting. That is consistent with what I have been told.
 

VJLUTZ

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A few other tidbits (not universally true):
- Some of these girls have non-trivial jobs back home. I've talked to girls who worked in insurance, teaching, management (post office supervisor) and even engineering (yes, really). Of course, others have relatively low status jobs too (lots of retail girls).
- Some of them do a "recon" trip. They travel to the US with a few friends to see other friends who are working in an AMP. They get a feel for America and the lay of the land (as it were) for working in an AMP. Then they go back home and decide if they want to come back and work.
- Many of these girls are divorced and have kids They set the kids up in a house (typically with their mom) and they go off and send back support $$. Sometimes, a lot of the $$ goes to pay a mortgage back home. They get snookered into buying overpriced homes or apartments and must pay a mortgage. One girl was constantly talking about her mortgage, like it was a gun to her head.
- A few even own multiple homes. Frankly, I don't understand this as I am well aware of the costs and problems associated with owning more than one house. But apparently they don't have property tax like we do here. Some of them buy the houses and don't even rent them out. But they pay to furnish them all. When I ask about the wisdom of all this, I get blank stares. I suspect is some kind of status thing in China.
- Which brings me to my next point. These girls are obsessed with luxury and status items. I've never seen anything like it. They are fuking programmed to buy anything with a luxury brand name slapped on it. Actually functionality or value for $$ is not an option. I've tried to demonstrate to more than a few girls why a $500 Seiko or Citizen watch beats the shit out of a $4000 Omega watch in terms of value and functionality. But no, they must have the Omega watch.
- A lot of them also develop bad gambling addictions. They make a tax-free fortune, then blow it at the casino in an hour during their monthly vacation.
- I'm convinced companies (& casinos) secretly lobby to get these girls into the US. They are like the Stepford-wife consumers. Beyond demand, this is why AMPs will never be eradicated. They are a fuking gold mind for corporations, both in America and Asia. And, of course, it all comes from our wallets.
- So, in a sense, these girls dig their own graves financially and then must whore themselves out to pay for it.
- Probably the smartest girls stick to HJs (less, but still decent $$ and less stress on the body) and save up for their own AMPs. But that's less than 5% of the girls I've seen. If you ask them, most want to be an AMP owner, but lack the discipline and intelligence to make it happen.
 

Maple Garden

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A few other tidbits (not universally true):
- Some of these girls have non-trivial jobs back home. I've talked to girls who worked in insurance, teaching, management (post office supervisor) and even engineering (yes, really). Of course, others have relatively low status jobs too (lots of retail girls).
- Some of them do a "recon" trip. They travel to the US with a few friends to see other friends who are working in an AMP. They get a feel for America and the lay of the land (as it were) for working in an AMP. Then they go back home and decide if they want to come back and work.
- Many of these girls are divorced and have kids They set the kids up in a house (typically with their mom) and they go off and send back support $$. Sometimes, a lot of the $$ goes to pay a mortgage back home. They get snookered into buying overpriced homes or apartments and must pay a mortgage. One girl was constantly talking about her mortgage, like it was a gun to her head.
- A few even own multiple homes. Frankly, I don't understand this as I am well aware of the costs and problems associated with owning more than one house. But apparently they don't have property tax like we do here. Some of them buy the houses and don't even rent them out. But they pay to furnish them all. When I ask about the wisdom of all this, I get blank stares. I suspect is some kind of status thing in China.
- Which brings me to my next point. These girls are obsessed with luxury and status items. I've never seen anything like it. They are fuking programmed to buy anything with a luxury brand name slapped on it. Actually functionality or value for $$ is not an option. I've tried to demonstrate to more than a few girls why a $500 Seiko or Citizen watch beats the shit out of a $4000 Omega watch in terms of value and functionality. But no, they must have the Omega watch.
- A lot of them also develop bad gambling addictions. They make a tax-free fortune, then blow it at the casino in an hour during their monthly vacation.
- I'm convinced companies (& casinos) secretly lobby to get these girls into the US. They are like the Stepford-wife consumers. Beyond demand, this is why AMPs will never be eradicated. They are a fuking gold mind for corporations, both in America and Asia. And, of course, it all comes from our wallets.
- So, in a sense, these girls dig their own graves financially and then must whore themselves out to pay for it.
- Probably the smartest girls stick to HJs (less, but still decent $$ and less stress on the body) and save up for their own AMPs. But that's less than 5% of the girls I've seen. If you ask them, most want to be an AMP owner, but lack the discipline and intelligence to make it happen.
“A few other tidbits (not universally true):” Maybe not universally true, but generally true for sure.

As far as non trivial jobs - I know two that were university professors.

The recon ones are always a lot of fun. Some, rather than overstay their visa and then try to get a green card, stay as long as they can, earn as much as they can, then tour and play and then return to America to earn more.

This name brand obsession, boggles my mind. I’ll never understand it.

The casino thing, some not only gamble, but look for potentially rich clients in casinos.
 

VJLUTZ

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What you are saying is many of them like it or hate it depending upon who the customer is. And I completely agree. With the cheap, disrespectful and mean being far worse than the old and fat.
They make fun of the guys who are too old, fat or ugly. Especially if they also think you are poor. Their biggest scorn is reserved for customers that ask them to do weird shit.

Lots are on the lookout for older men who they think are rich. Without getting into too much detail, they also favor certain ethnic groups over others. Probably at the bottom of that list are the Indians/Pakis. They hate the smell and those guys have a rep for skipping out w/o tipping.

But, yeah, your chances of making a connection are much better if you seem like your care about yourself and them. It's just common sense, but many of their customers don't care, however.
 

Levin79

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Guys, if she charges you outside the spa, it is only outcall. You're not dating. If she doesn't charge you (including inside the spa) then you're dating (at least in her mind). Understand that comes with other strings.
Whether one dates a pro or civilian we're paying with money , time , emotions etc.
Many don't understand sex is never free from any woman.
You engage with a pro obviously money.
Sex with a civilian expectation to hangout with her and all her emotions 24/7.
Every spa girl is offering her body for money.
Sometimes preferred or better looking customers receive extra time or more bang for their money from a provider.
However, all about the Benjamin's.
 

Levin79

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It's always better if you like your provider and she likes you back. An initial hello smile goes a long way at the first meeting.

I'll bet the girls have problems with all ethnicities trying to skip out or shorting their tips.
It's always better if you like your provider and she likes you back. An initial hello smile goes a long way at the first meeting.

I'll bet the girls have problems with all ethnicities trying to skip out or shorting their tips.

You know a provider is feeling you when her lips come towards your mouth.
When she states , " I take off" before receiving and asking for tip.
However, is she worth( looks) daty, dfk etc?
 

Levin79

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It's always better if you like your provider and she likes you back. An initial hello smile goes a long way at the first meeting.

I'll bet the girls have problems with all ethnicities trying to skip out or shorting their tips.
Another big tell if a provider is digging you when they kiss your nibbles quickly.
 

TGBeldin

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Whether one dates a pro or civilian we're paying with money , time , emotions etc.
Many don't understand sex is never free from any woman.
You engage with a pro obviously money.
Sex with a civilian expectation to hangout with her and all her emotions 24/7.
Every spa girl is offering her body for money.
Sometimes preferred or better looking customers receive extra time or more bang for their money from a provider.
However, all about the Benjamin's.
I believe the key is what you say at the beginning: every relationship--and I mean EVERY one, not just romantic or sexual ones--is paid for with some mix of money, time, and emotions. It the people involved agree on the right formula among those three things, then the relationship is probably good and can endure. When they don't, there is trouble.

Over time the payment formula can certainly change, and that is when we here on this discussion start using different words like "customer" or "dating". Usually I have found the transition is gradual, not abrupt.

I spend an hour with a woman, i give her $$, she gives me time. There is almost no emotion in the relationship.

The next time I add a small does of emotion, maybe I ask how she has been or smile at her more or bring a small gift of fruit, etc. She responds by adding a few extra minutes or a little extra real enthusiasm and a sincere hug.

A few more meetings, time and emotion added via texts or phone calls in between. After a while i am giving her a different mix of money/time/emotion, and so is she. So long as the two of us agree it is fair, we keep seeing each other. In all or outcall or in public is not the defining factor, but often a symptom of where the exchange had morphed to.

And so long as the two people agree, I usually feel it is not my place to tell them that their exchange rate is wrong, or that I need to give it a name to compartmentalize them.

The lady I care most about right now is getting a large dose of $ as part of our relationship, because that is what she needs now. At other times I have given her no money, but more in other ways because that iswhat she needed then.

I have enjoyed reading these discussions, but feel we sometimes try to put rigid definitions on things that are very fluid and personal.
 

Levin79

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I believe the key is what you say at the beginning: every relationship--and I mean EVERY one, not just romantic or sexual ones--is paid for with some mix of money, time, and emotions. It the people involved agree on the right formula among those three things, then the relationship is probably good and can endure. When they don't, there is trouble.

Over time the payment formula can certainly change, and that is when we here on this discussion start using different words like "customer" or "dating". Usually I have found the transition is gradual, not abrupt.

I spend an hour with a woman, i give her $$, she gives me time. There is almost no emotion in the relationship.

The next time I add a small does of emotion, maybe I ask how she has been or smile at her more or bring a small gift of fruit, etc. She responds by adding a few extra minutes or a little extra real enthusiasm and a sincere hug.

A few more meetings, time and emotion added via texts or phone calls in between. After a while i am giving her a different mix of money/time/emotion, and so is she. So long as the two of us agree it is fair, we keep seeing each other. In all or outcall or in public is not the defining factor, but often a symptom of where the exchange had morphed to.

And so long as the two people agree, I usually feel it is not my place to tell them that their exchange rate is wrong, or that I need to give it a name to compartmentalize them.

The lady I care most about right now is getting a large dose of $ as part of our relationship, because that is what she needs now. At other times I have given her no money, but more in other ways because that iswhat she needed then.

I have enjoyed reading these discussions, but feel we sometimes try to put rigid definitions on things that are very fluid and personal.
Well stated.
 

VJLUTZ

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Can you connect emotionally in an hour? Yes. But its very limited & slow going. And then you have to come back and pay for another hour,

If you like her, work on getting her contact info ASAP, so you can text her (preferably via WeChat). They you can engage with them remotely and it won't cost you anything. When you chat them up, you can slowly build that bond and butter them up for the next time. Then, when you do see them physically, they are really happy, even excited. And, actually, WeChat also allows you to do Video Chats with them (though some are cagey about that). Anyway, it makes a huge difference; it builds the relationship quicker for less $$.
 

Levin79

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Can you connect emotionally in an hour? Yes. But its very limited & slow going. And then you have to come back and pay for another hour,

If you like her, work on getting her contact info ASAP, so you can text her (preferably via WeChat). They you can engage with them remotely and it won't cost you anything. When you chat them up, you can slowly build that bond and butter them up for the next time. Then, when you do see them physically, they are really happy, even excited. And, actually, WeChat also allows you to do Video Chats with them (though some are cagey about that). Anyway, it makes a huge difference; it builds the relationship quicker for less $$.
I believe chemistry is instantaneous and usually connection made in first minutes.However, time will determine if the tide will grow rapidly or quickly move out to sea.
 

RickeyRomance

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Only two providers I have any interest in dating.When I use term dating I ‘m alluding in seeing if they’re are as humorous outside as inside Spa.I’m not referencing in dating for marriage or sex just in seeing what’s behind a provider.
I married a former stripper (she danced in college) but that’s about it. Don’t know if I’d put a ring on a chick that tugged 10 dicks a day in the back room of a strip mall and might have a couple of priors.

If you’ve got an Asian fetish, just hang out in Bayside or Flushing and buy a girl a drink and date her.
 

Levin79

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I married a former stripper (she danced in college) but that’s about it. Don’t know if I’d put a ring on a chick that tugged 10 dicks a day in the back room of a strip mall and might have a couple of priors.

If you’ve got an Asian fetish, just hang out in Bayside or Flushing and buy a girl a drink and date her.
Are you still married to her?
 

V2686278

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I believe the key is what you say at the beginning: every relationship--and I mean EVERY one, not just romantic or sexual ones--is paid for with some mix of money, time, and emotions. It the people involved agree on the right formula among those three things, then the relationship is probably good and can endure. When they don't, there is trouble.

Over time the payment formula can certainly change, and that is when we here on this discussion start using different words like "customer" or "dating". Usually I have found the transition is gradual, not abrupt.

I spend an hour with a woman, i give her $$, she gives me time. There is almost no emotion in the relationship.

The next time I add a small does of emotion, maybe I ask how she has been or smile at her more or bring a small gift of fruit, etc. She responds by adding a few extra minutes or a little extra real enthusiasm and a sincere hug.

A few more meetings, time and emotion added via texts or phone calls in between. After a while i am giving her a different mix of money/time/emotion, and so is she. So long as the two of us agree it is fair, we keep seeing each other. In all or outcall or in public is not the defining factor, but often a symptom of where the exchange had morphed to.

And so long as the two people agree, I usually feel it is not my place to tell them that their exchange rate is wrong, or that I need to give it a name to compartmentalize them.

The lady I care most about right now is getting a large dose of $ as part of our relationship, because that is what she needs now. At other times I have given her no money, but more in other ways because that iswhat she needed then.

I have enjoyed reading these discussions, but feel we sometimes try to put rigid definitions on things that are very fluid and personal.
Very well put.
 

VJLUTZ

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I believe chemistry is instantaneous and usually connection made in first minutes.However, time will determine if the tide will grow rapidly or quickly move out to sea.
Yeah, recall I said "If you like her". That's chemistry, but its only a spark. WeChat & other platforms are tools that can help.
I have multiple examples of legit AMP girls who put out only AFTER I chatted them up on WeChat. It works. Why not use it?
 
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