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When to begin mongering again

Uniquelyme

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Forget all the politics for a second, I have family and close friends who are doctors, nurses, and PAs and are on the frontlines fighting this virus. Our hospitals are a war zone right now. For many people it is a disease that does not require hospitalization, but for others it can be very serious and carries a real risk of death. Yes those who are over 60 or have an underlying condition are at greatest risk but it can and has killed young people with no underlying condition. Having close contact with anyone right now puts you at risk of contracting a disease that could within 2 to 14 days make you very sick or even kill you. You can be asymptomatic and spread it to others, or get sick yourself later on. Stay home, otherwise you are risking your own life and also helping spread around this disease and only prolonging the related issues such as the economic fallout and businesses we all enjoy staying closed. It’s a very nasty disease.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/nyregion/nyc-coronavirus-hospitals.html
 

krideynyc

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When he said hoax he meant the Democrats typical reaction (to blame HIM for the CV in this case) as has been their history with him.

Come on, did you REALLY think that he meant the virus was never real and was a figment of everyone's imagination?

I knew TDS was bad but some of you guys really need help.
So I guess TDS explains when Seattle confirmed on March 1st that the virus has been active for at least six weeks in their area, that's why the President did not escalate how the Gov't should have responded. But waited until the 12th to take the first serious action with the Travel Ban from Europe?
 

Soldier105

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Governors make the best presidents since they actually lead people and manage systems of the equivalent of small countries. As a retired military officer I have first hand experience working for both president and governor so I know the issues they both deal with.

As US citizens we need to do everything we can to get the US economy up and running, and people working. I hate the term global citizen because it assumes we don’t care about those of other countries but we do. We (the US) became a global power by helping others. We need to continue to do that. We need to support whoever is in power to expedite the process. That’s what good citizens do.

#presidentcuomo but we didn’t join this site to discuss politics did we?

Relax gents, it’ll pass and we’ll be back to normal by the end of the year or sooner.
 

hhnyc77

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That's absolutely what's happening. Many hospitals are preparing temporary morgues / refrigerated trucks to store all the dead bodies. What happened at Elmhurst Hospital in Queens is going to happen in hospitals all across the city/state/region/country/world.

Do you know how bad it is? Doctors and nurses are resorting to wearing plastic GARBAGE bags over their scrubs, because they're starting to run out of gowns. They are being forced to re-staple and re-use their N95 masks (ASSUMING IT'S EVEN AVAILABLE), and you have to sign-in and sign-out to keep a record of how often you take one...if you're using a new one too often, you're being flagged...it's fucking absurd.

A lot of healthcare workers in other countries are wearing hazmats, but in the US, with our mighty healthcare system, medical staff are wearing nothing more than double surgical masks, makeshift gowns, minimal PPE.

You guys have NO idea what it's like to be a doctor or nurse or other medical staff in a hospital that's being overwhelmed by infected patients. The physical, but more importantly, the mental toll these folks are dealing with...being deathly afraid of bringing home the virus with them, and infecting their families and children...the emotional and mental stress of losing patients left and right. Having to turn away and refuse treatment for non-critically ill patients. Having to turn away a guy who stood on line to be tested, while coughing and exhibit symptoms, in the rain, for 7 hours, only to be turned away for not having enough tests. Not able to let any family matters come visit critically ill patients...with the only exception being made when a patient is certain near-death.

We're sitting here, behind our keyboards, arguing about useless shit, or working from home or diddling our thumbs and getting bored of reading the news or watching Netflix, ordering contactless Grubhub/Seamless/restaurant deliveries, trying new recipes, trying to get a grip on our finances...and yet, medical professionals want nothing more to be home, hunkered down with their families, and not be exposed. But they cannot...because it's their jobs to treat patients, and try to save lives.

Some of the comments being made here and elsewhere on these boards are absolutely appalling. I can understand staying anonymous and spewing bullshit when things are "normal" but when the situation is this dire, in the face of very serious real-world consequences beyond whether a provider matches their photos and whether they provide great service, it really shows the true colors of individual people...not that you care, but I have seriously lost respect for some of you.

There's a meme floating around that I saw last night...you have three choices...1) Stay at Home. 2) Stay in the hospital. 3) Stay in a photo frame.

Those are your 3 fucking choices...and for the love of God, please stay the hell out of my wife's ED and ICU units. If you have the great misfortune to land in her unit, she and her colleagues will do whatever they can to save your life...because that's what she does, and that's her job. Putting aside all of her worst fears and worries, with minimal, flimsy personal protection equipment on, she'll work through broken gloves to try to stabilize you, to advocate for you with other staff and administration, with alarms blaring constantly left and right, with super high anxiety that you'll code and crash at any minute. The RRT (rapid response teams) are not calls for help anymore...it's become an automatic intubation. Seeing the panic in her patient's eyes with their limbs shaking uncontrollably, begging to be helped, and the only thing they can do is put a tube down your throat to help you breathe. Three days ago, you were a healthy, invincible guy in your 30s or 40s, with no underlying health issues. Now, you are touch and go, and while she tells you that they are doing everything they can, the truth is that she and her colleagues have no idea. She's just as numb and scared as you are. And your family cannot even visit you because of restrictions. And you'll be added to the daily count numbers.

With so many of her fellow colleagues being exposed and self-quarantining at home, she's incredibly overworked, understaffed, mentally wrecked from losing patients in their 30s and 40s and 50s, and almost a certainty that her older patients and those with underlying conditions (as well as perfectly healthy ones too), will die in front of her eyes. And in the ED, there are TONS of people waiting to be seen, many of them turned away, because you're occupying space. There are patients lying on the floors, there are patients lying on beds in the hallways, many of them waiting for hours and hours because there's no space.

Then she has to come home after 12-14 hours of that, met at a side entrance to our house with plastic bags, disinfecting wipes, gloves, etc, strip off her scrubs, having to disinfect every single pen, piece of equipment, anything that she physically had on her, and step into the shower to scrub away any traces, with the unimaginable terror that she'll pass on the virus to our 18 month old daughter, to our son, to our elderly parents, to me.

So yeah, I'm taking this personally. So yeah, when a political "leader" makes a highly stupid comment or even worse, is numbed by indecision or incompetence, of course it makes me, and many people like me, very angry. When NYS needs 30,000 ventilators and yet, there's only 4,000 on the way. When they're being forced to put up makeshift temporary morgues outside of hospitals. When people are still out and about going about their business, not worried about it too much. When some kids under 20 now are dying. When you have to clear major hurdles as a medical worker to even get tested yourself. When hospitals around the country are expecting a SURGE that they cannot possibly handle. When medical staff soon having to make the impossible decision on who they can save, and who they have to turn away.

But everything is going to be alright, right?? The mortality rate, according to the "numbers", is super low, right? We're doing more testing, right? Treatment and vaccines are being worked on, right? We have to restart the economy, right? If you get sick, you'll just self-quarantine at home and recover, right?

Reading about cases/articles online in the comfort of your home, the feeling of invincibility, the casual attitude of this is not that serious, what's with the panic? All very easy things to do when you're not directly exposed to the real-world ramifications and being on the front-lines.

I sincerely hope none of you have the misfortune of this touching any aspect of your life, even the doubters. And those members who are infected or exhibiting symptoms, I hope you feel better soon, and that you don't have to get near a hospital for your recovery. That's the very last place you want to be.

Take care of yourselves, gentlemen, and for your families.
 

Uniquelyme

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That's absolutely what's happening. Many hospitals are preparing temporary morgues / refrigerated trucks to store all the dead bodies. What happened at Elmhurst Hospital in Queens is going to happen in hospitals all across the city/state/region/country/world.

Do you know how bad it is? Doctors and nurses are resorting to wearing plastic GARBAGE bags over their scrubs, because they're starting to run out of gowns. They are being forced to re-staple and re-use their N95 masks (ASSUMING IT'S EVEN AVAILABLE), and you have to sign-in and sign-out to keep a record of how often you take one...if you're using a new one too often, you're being flagged...it's fucking absurd.

A lot of healthcare workers in other countries are wearing hazmats, but in the US, with our mighty healthcare system, medical staff are wearing nothing more than double surgical masks, makeshift gowns, minimal PPE.

You guys have NO idea what it's like to be a doctor or nurse or other medical staff in a hospital that's being overwhelmed by infected patients. The physical, but more importantly, the mental toll these folks are dealing with...being deathly afraid of bringing home the virus with them, and infecting their families and children...the emotional and mental stress of losing patients left and right. Having to turn away and refuse treatment for non-critically ill patients. Having to turn away a guy who stood on line to be tested, while coughing and exhibit symptoms, in the rain, for 7 hours, only to be turned away for not having enough tests. Not able to let any family matters come visit critically ill patients...with the only exception being made when a patient is certain near-death.

We're sitting here, behind our keyboards, arguing about useless shit, or working from home or diddling our thumbs and getting bored of reading the news or watching Netflix, ordering contactless Grubhub/Seamless/restaurant deliveries, trying new recipes, trying to get a grip on our finances...and yet, medical professionals want nothing more to be home, hunkered down with their families, and not be exposed. But they cannot...because it's their jobs to treat patients, and try to save lives.

Some of the comments being made here and elsewhere on these boards are absolutely appalling. I can understand staying anonymous and spewing bullshit when things are "normal" but when the situation is this dire, in the face of very serious real-world consequences beyond whether a provider matches their photos and whether they provide great service, it really shows the true colors of individual people...not that you care, but I have seriously lost respect for some of you.

There's a meme floating around that I saw last night...you have three choices...1) Stay at Home. 2) Stay in the hospital. 3) Stay in a photo frame.

Those are your 3 fucking choices...and for the love of God, please stay the hell out of my wife's ED and ICU units. If you have the great misfortune to land in her unit, she and her colleagues will do whatever they can to save your life...because that's what she does, and that's her job. Putting aside all of her worst fears and worries, with minimal, flimsy personal protection equipment on, she'll work through broken gloves to try to stabilize you, to advocate for you with other staff and administration, with alarms blaring constantly left and right, with super high anxiety that you'll code and crash at any minute. The RRT (rapid response teams) are not calls for help anymore...it's become an automatic intubation. Seeing the panic in her patient's eyes with their limbs shaking uncontrollably, begging to be helped, and the only thing they can do is put a tube down your throat to help you breathe. Three days ago, you were a healthy, invincible guy in your 30s or 40s, with no underlying health issues. Now, you are touch and go, and while she tells you that they are doing everything they can, the truth is that she and her colleagues have no idea. She's just as numb and scared as you are. And your family cannot even visit you because of restrictions. And you'll be added to the daily count numbers.

With so many of her fellow colleagues being exposed and self-quarantining at home, she's incredibly overworked, understaffed, mentally wrecked from losing patients in their 30s and 40s and 50s, and almost a certainty that her older patients and those with underlying conditions (as well as perfectly healthy ones too), will die in front of her eyes. And in the ED, there are TONS of people waiting to be seen, many of them turned away, because you're occupying space. There are patients lying on the floors, there are patients lying on beds in the hallways, many of them waiting for hours and hours because there's no space.

Then she has to come home after 12-14 hours of that, met at a side entrance to our house with plastic bags, disinfecting wipes, gloves, etc, strip off her scrubs, having to disinfect every single pen, piece of equipment, anything that she physically had on her, and step into the shower to scrub away any traces, with the unimaginable terror that she'll pass on the virus to our 18 month old daughter, to our son, to our elderly parents, to me.

So yeah, I'm taking this personally. So yeah, when a political "leader" makes a highly stupid comment or even worse, is numbed by indecision or incompetence, of course it makes me, and many people like me, very angry. When NYS needs 30,000 ventilators and yet, there's only 4,000 on the way. When they're being forced to put up makeshift temporary morgues outside of hospitals. When people are still out and about going about their business, not worried about it too much. When some kids under 20 now are dying. When you have to clear major hurdles as a medical worker to even get tested yourself. When hospitals around the country are expecting a SURGE that they cannot possibly handle. When medical staff soon having to make the impossible decision on who they can save, and who they have to turn away.

But everything is going to be alright, right?? The mortality rate, according to the "numbers", is super low, right? We're doing more testing, right? Treatment and vaccines are being worked on, right? We have to restart the economy, right? If you get sick, you'll just self-quarantine at home and recover, right?

Reading about cases/articles online in the comfort of your home, the feeling of invincibility, the casual attitude of this is not that serious, what's with the panic? All very easy things to do when you're not directly exposed to the real-world ramifications and being on the front-lines.

I sincerely hope none of you have the misfortune of this touching any aspect of your life, even the doubters. And those members who are infected or exhibiting symptoms, I hope you feel better soon, and that you don't have to get near a hospital for your recovery. That's the very last place you want to be.

Take care of yourselves, gentlemen, and for your families.


Some nurses are being asked to work while having contracted the virus. According to the video. Some hotels four seasons is mentioned are allowing hospital workers to stay there rather than go home.
 

cm47toimaim

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When he said hoax he meant the Democrats typical reaction (to blame HIM for the CV in this case) as has been their history with him.

Come on, did you REALLY think that he meant the virus was never real and was a figment of everyone's imagination?

I knew TDS was bad but some of you guys really need help.
Puff !
 

krideynyc

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@hhnyc77

What is happening now, is beyond worst cast expectations by the medical communities. They knew what was coming from what they saw happening in WuHan. They didn’t expect to be under supplied with the necessities. Ventilators were expected to be in short supply. But not having to recycle PPE. People think there wasn’t a surplus prepared ahead of time. The reality is that surplus was used up very quickly, without being able to resupply. It’s that lack of resupply that’s hurting the most.

We need to safeguard these medical frontline staffs. We’re in this for the long haul.
 

Koondog

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Where I live in Jersey there's not a single case for a 30 mile radius around me, checked with people I know in all the hospitals in my area. Hope it stays that way.
 

Uniquelyme

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Where I live in Jersey there's not a single case for a 30 mile radius around me, checked with people I know in all the hospitals in my area. Hope it stays that way.
What part of NJ do you live in? Because there's cases all over albeit far less than NYC.

Im in Bergen County there's definitely cases in this county. In Newark, in North bergen, in New Brunswick etc. In Bridgewater.

What county are you in??
 

radsamda

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Sorry you got fake news. MSNBC is about as fake as you can get.


Dr. Deborah Birx, who serves as the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, said during a press conference on Wednesday that the media has “frightened the American people” with salacious reporting surrounding the coronavirus outbreak.


Birx’s remarks come after leftist talking heads like MSNBC’s Chris Hayes have claimed that the coronavirus could kill 1% of the U.S. population, which is over 3.2 million people.

“We have done some things that are horizontal across the country, but we are collecting data now in a county by county granular way. So, it’s like any epidemic, it’s not equal everywhere,” Birx said. “There are places that are very spared and places where there is more. We have a very vast country with a lot of capacity and a lot of infrastructure.”

“If you do these projections, when you got to those projections that said like in Germany and others that implied that 60% or 50% of the population would get infected, I want to be very clear, the only way that happens is that this virus remains continuously moving through populations in this cycle, in the fall cycle, and another cycle,” Birx continued. “That’s through three cycles with nothing being done.”

“We are dealing with cycle ‘A’ right now, not one that could come in the fall of 2020, and that we’re getting prepared for by the innovations that are being worked on, and not 2021 [cycle],” Birx continued. “We’re really dealing with the here and now while we are planning for the future. And I think the numbers that have been put out there are actually very frightening to people.”

“But I can tell you if you go back and look at Wuhan and Hubei and all of these provinces, when they talk about 60,000 people being infected, even if you said, alright, well there’s asymptomatics and all of that, so you get to 600,000 people out of 80 million,” Birx added. “That is nowhere close to the numbers that you see people putting out there. I think it has frightened the American people.”

CNN refused to air Birx speaking during the press conference and repeatedly cut away when she and Vice President Mike Pence spoke.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dr-d...can-people-with-salacious-coronavirus-numbers
 

hhnyc77

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Some nurses are being asked to work while having contracted the virus. According to the video. Some hotels four seasons is mentioned are allowing hospital workers to stay there rather than go home.
Good on that ER doctor...she is one of many countless thousands of front-line medical professionals, that seem to be having to work with one or even both hands tied behind their backs.

By the way, the Mrs. health system is telling their staff to NOT respond to any media inquiries, and NOT to make any comments, whether asked or voluntarily to the media. You still hear media coverage, but trust me when I say there's thousands more just like that, that isn't being reported or commented on. FYI.
 

Uniquelyme

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Sorry you got fake news. MSNBC is about as fake as you can get.


Dr. Deborah Birx, who serves as the White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator, said during a press conference on Wednesday that the media has “frightened the American people” with salacious reporting surrounding the coronavirus outbreak.


Birx’s remarks come after leftist talking heads like MSNBC’s Chris Hayes have claimed that the coronavirus could kill 1% of the U.S. population, which is over 3.2 million people.

“We have done some things that are horizontal across the country, but we are collecting data now in a county by county granular way. So, it’s like any epidemic, it’s not equal everywhere,” Birx said. “There are places that are very spared and places where there is more. We have a very vast country with a lot of capacity and a lot of infrastructure.”

“If you do these projections, when you got to those projections that said like in Germany and others that implied that 60% or 50% of the population would get infected, I want to be very clear, the only way that happens is that this virus remains continuously moving through populations in this cycle, in the fall cycle, and another cycle,” Birx continued. “That’s through three cycles with nothing being done.”

“We are dealing with cycle ‘A’ right now, not one that could come in the fall of 2020, and that we’re getting prepared for by the innovations that are being worked on, and not 2021 [cycle],” Birx continued. “We’re really dealing with the here and now while we are planning for the future. And I think the numbers that have been put out there are actually very frightening to people.”

“But I can tell you if you go back and look at Wuhan and Hubei and all of these provinces, when they talk about 60,000 people being infected, even if you said, alright, well there’s asymptomatics and all of that, so you get to 600,000 people out of 80 million,” Birx added. “That is nowhere close to the numbers that you see people putting out there. I think it has frightened the American people.”

CNN refused to air Birx speaking during the press conference and repeatedly cut away when she and Vice President Mike Pence spoke.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/dr-d...can-people-with-salacious-coronavirus-numbers
The minute you say fake news i know you are regurgitating what the President says.

Let's be clear. Im posting this in NYC section. Nothing is fake about whats going on in Downstate as the upstate people call it here.

My family member is retired shes gotten asked to come back to work. Ex colleagues of hers have told her they are bombarded and can barely keep up. The DR Cnbc is interviewing has said he's worked for both parties and even and independent.

Some of you need to stop with this left and right bullshit. You sound silly at times.
 

hhnyc77

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What is happening now, is beyond worst cast expectations by the medical communities. They knew what was coming from what they saw happening in WuHan. They didn’t expect to be under supplied with the necessities. Ventilators were expected to be in short supply. But not having to recycle PPE. People think there wasn’t a surplus prepared ahead of time. The reality is that surplus was used up very quickly, without being able to resupply. It’s that lack of resupply that’s hurting the most.

We need to safeguard these medical frontline staffs. We’re in this for the long haul.
Some good news this morning...the wife's health system is getting some new supplies of N95s, which they all need to be fit for. I think they are working on getting other supplies too. But it's still like a war zone...need everything yesterday.

There's little doubt that there's varied messaging, controlled messaging, misinformation, etc. etc. People will report and push whatever their agendas are...it's often hard to discern. The WHO even called it an "infodemic. What I personally do is to only trust the known media companies that publish based on very intensive research and fact-checking, publish with ethical standards in mind, and when confronted with complaints, investigate and publish corrections, if warranted. All while trying to remaining as least biased as possible...of course some are slightly biased one way or another. My personal go-tos include the NY Times, WSJ, Washington Post, AP, Reuters, BBC, CNN, USA Today, among a few others.

A lot of scientists and medical professionals in government positions...most of them need to balance their scientific opinion/facts, while trying not to piss off or get on the wrong side of their higher-ups. Even Dr. Fauci is on thin ice with POTUS...his staff have long learned that the only way to politically survive is to constantly stroke his ego, not anger him, and constantly praise him for a "perfect" job. Look, I'm not here to bash POTUS, nor will I resort to name-calling...as much as I dislike the man, I still respect the office that he holds. But that title comes with great responsibility...I hope the sensible ones that have influence over him have the courage, knowledge, political awareness/savvy, etc, to be able to advise him based on what's best for the country, and not by the seat of his pants and on rhetoric.
 
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