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TGBeldin

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I concede your point.

To shift the conversation - outside of the occasional Pornstar, I've never come across a pro who has an hourly rate of 2K, but I'm definitely curious to find out what would warrant it. Care to share the intel?
Having people over for dinner at the moment, but I will answer your question tonight or tomorrow. Just wanted to let you know I saw it and I am
 

East Lake II

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" Imo though you are taking more of a risk dating a Woman who has been fucking many Men for money."

This cannot be overstated enough. Entering into a relationship with a provider and you are already starting with 2 hands tied behind your back. Lots of guys here seem to be under the impression that there's a pot of gold at the end of that rainbow. No offense to anyone but I don't think this issue has been thought through enough.
Issue has not been thought through enough. No doubt. But I think saying because they work in spas they have extra baggage doesn’t take into all the possible considerations and oversimplifies their baggage to being solely attributable to working in a spa. I think their working in a spa is a result of the baggage they have accumulated thru their life. Once in always in, yes. But not emotionally in to the extent they are now or were.

Most important to consider is their overall emotional stability and their current and what will most likely be ongoing commitments and relationships. Also, what might seem like distance at times are them going thru some very difficult times, such as illness and death of parents, parents which can no longer physically care for their child, sick and dying siblings, their own health problems. And a big one no one ever mentions, many of them will enter and begin meno while you know them. One of the very reasons many of you began going to AMPs, wife entered meno and lost interest in sex, the AMP provider is now experiencing. Difference is, it’s her job to provide, so regardless of how she feels about it, she does it.

It’s not just that she’s an AMP worker, there are many other variables and influences. That being said, I still think many are a cut above most. Especially given all they have to deal with. You can be as judgmental as you wish, but don’t forget to look in the mirror (as someone said a little earlier).

Go into it, but go into it aware and fully informed.
 

TGBeldin

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[QUOTE="Zzzz, post: 128915, member: 11727"To shift the conversation - outside of the occasional Pornstar, I've never come across a pro who has an hourly rate of 2K, but I'm definitely curious to find out what would warrant it. Care to share the intel?[/QUOTE]

I am aware of two types that charge in that neighborhood. There may be others but they would be beyond my knowledge. The first are as you say, a few porn stars or actresses who started providing.

The other are a small subgroup of escorts who circulate around on the arms of CEOs, ambassadors, and celebrity types. They are nice looking, but often not model quality, though some are damn close. They charm the men in the room with their looks but also with their ability to fit into the environment/social discussions. Private gallery show, formal dinner for Prince ABCD, corporate president golf weekend, major fund raising gala, etc. Sex is on the menu, but at least as important is their skill at upping the status of their date by being the "best" (more than just hottest) arm candy. On occasion they are also used as a "gift for the night" to an important other guest at the event to help close a deal, financial or political, man or woman guest.

The price isn't really by the hour, but by the night, often in the 20-30K range. Well beyond my price range, but I have gotten to know some of there women because of the non-escorting parts of their lives. Met one, became friends, she introduced me to others kind of thing.
 

DannyG

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You meet and want to have an exclusive relationship with a provider, keep in mind you met while she was performing your hour of fun, both of you hit it off, she realizes you want exclusivity with her, as the performer, this translates into the new relationship, she isn’t stupid, far from it, she knows even if you don’t that you want her for her skills, her skills are what snagged you and pays the bills, her bills, the love is secondary in her mind, ‘‘tis why she still wants compensation every time you tap into her. Assuming the way things will be won’t manifest into a normal/healthy relationship, what’ll manifest is what occurs during a session, only now it’s more costlier and there will be casualties. How long can it last on this level is anyone’s guess. Unless you’re ready, willing and able to take her away from the life, provide for her even if she gets a non amp job then don’t be surprised when you find yourself in a grueling relationship, she wants you to love her for who she is, you want full time full service, two people walking together, yet with two different destinations.
 

KiteEnvy

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Most of the woman I met are a “cut above”, good humans. Their lives are complicated. And the whole business is built on many layers of non-truths on both sides, so I certainly don’t hold that against them. We lie, they lie, it’s all part of the game.

Regarding the ability to strip away most of the non-truths, be open and honest on both sides, and become friends, that is a worthy goal.

But taking the relationship to infatuation and love, it’s just not worth the crushing emotional drain I had experienced falling into this trap. In this love crazed haze I just couldn’t compartmentalize the way some of you seem to with the line of her work. Did I suffer for a time.

So enjoy the lust release, become friends, get past some of the lies if possible, but save yourself the pain/agony of love.
 

TGBeldin

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Actually, some guys do go there seeking it. I doubt those ever work out well.

It is when it works "in spite of" the way you met that there is a small chance it will work out. As D said, the man has to understand that she needs financial--and emotional--security, and be willing to provide his share+ of it. She has to be willing and ready to leave the sex industry and embrace a "normal" life. And, if they can live away from where she was working, the odds for a successful relationship go up significantly.

I think in many ways this is similar to most relationships that last.
 

didi88

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They have vaulabe attributes. And to each their own. Imo though you are taking more of a risk dating a Woman who has been fucking many Men for money. It skews their way of thinking. Much better if at all to get a girl when she just starts providing as opposed to one who's been doing this a while.
Agree 100%. I’m always looking for this
 

Shibsaeggi

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I want to enjoy all types of women with no emotional attachment. Whether it’s an amp provider, room salon girl, a girl from a private party or anyone else.

I will treat them with respect, take them out to dinner and shopping, help them assemble a bed or drawer, and pay them for their time. Just treat me the same and give me great sex. I want nothing more. Those who wanted more, I discontinued seeing them.
 

charliebrown

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I personally want her to provide a great massage. I have one woman who loves me with her heart and that is more than enough for me. My SO has a ton of baggage that would petrify others and yet I continue to carry that baggage with her every day because it was mutually accumulated. What scares most (including myself) is attaining twice as much baggage in such a short period of time. Most people buckle under the new found load.

For those of you who are financially, physically and emotionally ready to assume more baggage and responsibility in your life, I commend you.

At the end of our lives, do we really want to remember our life by the number of women we have touched physically or emotionally?
 

Maple Garden

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Yes agreed whole heartedly. Never would I want any future dates or anyone I'm involved with to know i was or am a hobbyist.

We definitely carry baggage being a hobbyist. Some more than others ofc.
This is a good point. I’m somewhat involved
You meet and want to have an exclusive relationship with a provider, keep in mind you met while she was performing your hour of fun, both of you hit it off, she realizes you want exclusivity with her, as the performer, this translates into the new relationship, she isn’t stupid, far from it, she knows even if you don’t that you want her for her skills, her skills are what snagged you and pays the bills, her bills, the love is secondary in her mind, ‘‘tis why she still wants compensation every time you tap into her. Assuming the way things will be won’t manifest into a normal/healthy relationship, what’ll manifest is what occurs during a session, only now it’s more costlier and there will be casualties. How long can it last on this level is anyone’s guess. Unless you’re ready, willing and able to take her away from the life, provide for her even if she gets a non amp job then don’t be surprised when you find yourself in a grueling relationship, she wants you to love her for who she is, you want full time full service, two people walking together, yet with two different destinations.
“the love is secondary in her mind,” Not even secondary. It’s pretty far down the list. For reasons you explained.
 

Koondog

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I met a really cute girl once at a FS place. Instant connection. Thought it might be cool to see her outside for some free sex, totally no expectations. Guess what---we ended up liking each other. Then came a few years of 'dating' and the inevitable headbutting.

HER: "I will quit this job and get a real job when you marry me".

ME: "Why would I do that until you have proven to me you are trustworthy? Get a real job for a year, I'll observe you...if you pass the trust test, maybe it's an option".

HER: "Nope, won't quit without us being married"

ME: "If you are fucking other guys every day how do you expect me to consider this a legitimate relationship?"

HER: "Of course it's legit, we love each other!"

You get the picture. Yes, being involved with providers is so much fun!
 

Koondog

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" I think their working in a spa is a result of the baggage they have accumulated thru their life. "

Bad decisions too. One girl I know told me she is here for 1 reason. She bought an expensive house in China and had no way to pay for it. So she's here selling her soul/on her back 6 days a week to one day go home and live in luxury. Also the lure of making tens of thousands of dollars a year vs. the puny couple hundred a month they were making in China sure does influence them as well.
 
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