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What Are Your Thoughts On Spa Safety And Security

feetguy1

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I've been visiting spas for about 15 years now and, after the recent events in Atlanta, I wonder if safety and security measures will be in place by the owners of the spas. The times I go to the spas, the entrance doors are always unlocked. Some spas have cameras outside at the entrance, some don't. Some have cameras inside in the halls, some don't. I've never been asked for identification, except one time. I would think now that the spas will start locking the entrance doors with a camera outside to prevent walk-ins, requiring people to visit the spas by appointment only and asked for identification to screen people. What are your thoughts on this matter?
 

BIGBOB62

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I helped one mms today talk to a contractor to help convert her entrance to a double door affair so she will have an inside landing where she can screen people before she unlocks the inner door. I vastly prefer this anyway. it was always a little stressful when we were naked and the outside door bells rang as someone entered

She was already refusing any walk-ins and not taking appointments if she didnt like the sound of the guy, at least since covid started.

The other 2 spas i frequent all the time are already locked doors.

And they all have very good camera coverage / offsite storage for video. I dont think anyone wants to go to ID's yet. Back before, there was one spa that I am 100% certain was going through my wallet when i was in the TS, but i am sure they were making sure i wasnt LE. I'm not letting some asshole in Georgia affect the quantity and quality of my visits. If the girls feel like they need new rules I'll adapt and keep going.
 

WestchesterRnT

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At 2 of the AMPs I frequent in Westchester Co, NY, if there are no rooms ready for me when I arrive, they have me sit in mamasan's office for 5 or 10 mins, and I got a good look at their camera systems. Both places have at least 8-10 cameras, covering inside and out of each entrance, and at least 2 cameras pointed out to the parking lot or sidewalk. So once you ring the bell, you've already been on camera for about 10 seconds.
 

njlefty

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I'm thinking of avoiding the walk-in places for a while.

My goal had been, before this massacre, to find a private masseuse. I had a private Asian masseuse in New Jersey who was beautiful. I was a client for seven years. My hope is to find a similar arrangement.

At this stage of my life, having money is secondary to spending money.
 

BIGBOB62

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At 2 of the AMPs I frequent in Westchester Co, NY, if there are no rooms ready for me when I arrive, they have me sit in mamasan's office for 5 or 10 mins, and I got a good look at their camera systems. Both places have at least 8-10 cameras, covering inside and out of each entrance, and at least 2 cameras pointed out to the parking lot or sidewalk. So once you ring the bell, you've already been on camera for about 10 seconds.
One of these shops I go to takes facial snaps off the video feed and discards all except the really bad customers. Those guys get printed and stuck to the wall by the camera screen. And sent to other friendly spas.
 

livinthedream

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i wouldn't be surprised to see some AMP's turn to the system some RMP's have. You will need an appointment, and password to verify you have been there.
ex this is John 964 i would like an appointment for tomorrow @ noon.
 

angryman82

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i wouldn't be surprised to see some AMP's turn to the system some RMP's have. You will need an appointment, and password to verify you have been there.
ex this is John 964 i would like an appointment for tomorrow @ noon.
Yeah this one spot I went to required that... some kind of 3 digit (or however many) to ID you. Quite a clever approach
 

angryman82

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I've been visiting spas for about 15 years now and, after the recent events in Atlanta, I wonder if safety and security measures will be in place by the owners of the spas. The times I go to the spas, the entrance doors are always unlocked. Some spas have cameras outside at the entrance, some don't. Some have cameras inside in the halls, some don't. I've never been asked for identification, except one time. I would think now that the spas will start locking the entrance doors with a camera outside to prevent walk-ins, requiring people to visit the spas by appointment only and asked for identification to screen people. What are your thoughts on this matter?
My thoughts

1. this anti-asian shit is getting really old and pisses me the hell off. "BuT bUt ThIs Is FrOm ChInA WhAt eLsE cAn YoU cAlL It derp derp?" -Covid 19, dickhead
2. i don't mind cameras, secret knocks, passwords, etc. I like anonymity. But silly me now sees the added layer of protection for their well being
3. i personally wouldn't be turned off by a place i've known to install cameras ... or curb a bit walk-ins. i understand. it's cool given the climate.
4. as far as photo ID on file or scanned/recorded...that'd be a 'no' for me. again, i get why, but i'm a private person. i'm in i'm out ... *maybe* i give a review or just keep things to myself
5. if video surveillance can blur out faces (not that they'd ever tell you)...I can live with that. Even though masks help and I wear a beanie so I'm not really seen well until disrobing
 

angryman82

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A few spas already assign a code to track visits for their “rewards” programs, instead of giving a punch card. Doing the same system for safety reasons is a no-brainer.
100%

For one...clearly they don't want physical harm done to them or clients ..
In addition to that and given the nature of their 'expertise' ... the less incidents or likelihood of them...
the better... especially if they're connected to 'Vladmir Adidas Track Suit' in NYC or have situations involving immigration.
 

feetguy1

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My thoughts

1. this anti-asian shit is getting really old and pisses me the hell off. "BuT bUt ThIs Is FrOm ChInA WhAt eLsE cAn YoU cAlL It derp derp?" -Covid 19, dickhead
2. i don't mind cameras, secret knocks, passwords, etc. I like anonymity. But silly me now sees the added layer of protection for their well being
3. i personally wouldn't be turned off by a place i've known to install cameras ... or curb a bit walk-ins. i understand. it's cool given the climate.
4. as far as photo ID on file or scanned/recorded...that'd be a 'no' for me. again, i get why, but i'm a private person. i'm in i'm out ... *maybe* i give a review or just keep things to myself
5. if video surveillance can blur out faces (not that they'd ever tell you)...I can live with that. Even though masks help and I wear a beanie so I'm not really seen well until disrobing
Your post of your first thought is unnecessary. This thread is about a thoughtful discussion on safety and security, not about China, Covid-19 or name calling. Your other thoughts are within scope of this discussion.
 

charliebrown

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Wonder how many spas are spread out across the united states. Wonder how many times their has been a mass shooting at multiple spas. Wonder what the odds of something like this happening again.

You live in a poor neighborhood, you go to a public high school. Your place of work is the POST OFFICE. Shopping at a store.
This incident was absolutely a tragedy. I will bet I never see this type incident again. I am not going to alter my lifestyle based on one sick individuals demented actions.
 

BIGBOB62

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Wonder how many spas are spread out across the united states. Wonder how many times their has been a mass shooting at multiple spas. Wonder what the odds of something like this happening again.

You live in a poor neighborhood, you go to a public high school. Your place of work is the POST OFFICE. Shopping at a store.
This incident was absolutely a tragedy. I will bet I never see this type incident again. I am not going to alter my lifestyle based on one sick individuals demented actions.
Its not the same, but I had a spa girl who moved out to Kansas to work, and then got involved in this situation out there with this same guy was robbing spas late at night at gunpoint. at first he was tying up the girls and leaving. But then he finally beat this one woman so badly he put her into a coma and she had permanent brain damage. Only then did the cops seriously start working on catching him.

But in any case, her changing her rules made sense, given the situation she was in. She started going to the bank more often, they had a procedure where they locked the door if both girls were busy with customers and nobody could watch the doors, and she put in a ton of cameras and made it visible that they had them installed at the front desks.
 

njlefty

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My biggest concern through the years was being at a spa during a robbery and maybe getting knocked off. These places generally keep a lot of cash on the premises — the ranges I have been aware of were $10,000 to $20,000.

But I have been going to AMPs for nearly 40 years without encountering a robbery. Though I was at spa once when state troopers broke down the entrance door for a trafficking raid and found myself in my briefs with an officer staring me down.
 

angryman82

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Your post of your first thought is unnecessary. This thread is about a thoughtful discussion on safety and security, not about China, Covid-19 or name calling. Your other thoughts are within scope of this discussion.
Ok...

Not as concerned as you are about calling xenophobic people mean names. But I'll keep that under consideration for next post.
 

Ricksmitz

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My biggest concern through the years was being at a spa during a robbery and maybe getting knocked off. These places generally keep a lot of cash on the premises — the ranges I have been aware of were $10,000 to $20,000.

But I have been going to AMPs for nearly 40 years without encountering a robbery. Though I was at spa once when state troopers broke down the entrance door for a trafficking raid and found myself in my briefs with an officer staring me down.
Ooof... how'd that end?
 

njlefty

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Ooof... how'd that end?
They let me go, but it was a close call. One thing I learned from it was to only say I was there for a massage. I must have repeated it ten times to the cops and admitted nothing else. They had moved the masseuse to another room and told me if she did not say exactly what I said, they'd arrest me. From what I understood, she told them she did not understand English well and would not say anything. Overall, not a good scene, but it happened. It was months until I started going to AMPs again.
 
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