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The monger experience: race relations, community, and obligations
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Everyone's life is different. People should refrain from generalizing "blacks" or "whites" or "asians" or "indians". There are turds and trophies in all ethnic backgrounds. When an individual speaks as if they are the spokesperson for a race I tune out immediately. It's just blah blah to make themselves feel important.
Personal preference is not racism. Being attracted to something, or someone in particular does not mean they hate everything else. Humans with functional IQ's have the ability to learn by association as a safety and defense mechanism in order to survive. The cave child who observes a saber tooth tiger catch and eat a deer learns to steer clear of said tiger, and then is able to grow up to be a cave man. Learned behavior - act on what you know - live to see another day - smart.
People who live their lives vicariously through the computer, CNN, news media, Twitter, FB, Ampreviews, etc. have a different vision of the world than people who move, interact, and navigate the world with face to face contact with others, particularly in large urban settings. I have a very robust, daily experience with people of every race, economics, sex and all in random intervals. I have short and long interactions with all, some are good friends, some I meet in passing. The number one difference between the view portrayed by the media and real life is "Race in America". MSNBC wants me to believe the world is in turmoil and we are in a crisis. Yet in my real world I find respect, courtesy, common ground, professionalism, joy, commiseration and camaraderie all day long.
Your time is wasted sitting at a pc wondering out loud why a provider does not want your black, asian, white, mexican penis inside her mouth. Her choice does not equal your definition of racism.
Personal preference is not racism. Being attracted to something, or someone in particular does not mean they hate everything else. Humans with functional IQ's have the ability to learn by association as a safety and defense mechanism in order to survive. The cave child who observes a saber tooth tiger catch and eat a deer learns to steer clear of said tiger, and then is able to grow up to be a cave man. Learned behavior - act on what you know - live to see another day - smart.
People who live their lives vicariously through the computer, CNN, news media, Twitter, FB, Ampreviews, etc. have a different vision of the world than people who move, interact, and navigate the world with face to face contact with others, particularly in large urban settings. I have a very robust, daily experience with people of every race, economics, sex and all in random intervals. I have short and long interactions with all, some are good friends, some I meet in passing. The number one difference between the view portrayed by the media and real life is "Race in America". MSNBC wants me to believe the world is in turmoil and we are in a crisis. Yet in my real world I find respect, courtesy, common ground, professionalism, joy, commiseration and camaraderie all day long.
Your time is wasted sitting at a pc wondering out loud why a provider does not want your black, asian, white, mexican penis inside her mouth. Her choice does not equal your definition of racism.
Let's be clear racism is extremely prevalent. While it is less so in the coasts. Mid west, Bible belt, South all have problems in racism more so than the coasts but even the coasts have problems with race.
There is a reason why cops are so jumpy to shoot even in places where gun laws are tough. Many people want things to stay the way it is.
To have black and brown people on the bottom of the pyramid in America. You can front if you want about it.
There is a reason why cops are so jumpy to shoot even in places where gun laws are tough. Many people want things to stay the way it is.
To have black and brown people on the bottom of the pyramid in America. You can front if you want about it.
More broad sweeping generalizations about entire categories of people. Nonsense. Jumpy cops? give me a break. I have many friends and family proudly serving and protecting all citizens.
People stop playing the race card and accept the fact that not everything you don't like is because of other peoples faults.
People stop playing the race card and accept the fact that not everything you don't like is because of other peoples faults.
You are kidding yourself if you think cops ain't extra jumpy around minorities.
I got a few classmates that are cops they were bullied in school and now have some power. This doesn't apply to all. I've got family that are cops and some of them are embarrassed by this brotherhood and how they have to support corrupt and even dicks that are cops.
Are all like that no. However if you aren't black or latino how the fuck can you say no that's not true?? It's like me commenting about what it's like being white smh.
I got a few classmates that are cops they were bullied in school and now have some power. This doesn't apply to all. I've got family that are cops and some of them are embarrassed by this brotherhood and how they have to support corrupt and even dicks that are cops.
Are all like that no. However if you aren't black or latino how the fuck can you say no that's not true?? It's like me commenting about what it's like being white smh.
To get back to the escort issue. It might also be an age thing with some escorts. Some will say no black men under, say, 35. Some don't like seeing younger guys regardless of race and will specify that in their ad.. Not that all young guys are trouble but let's face it when people get older, regardless of race, they, generally speaking, mellow out and are more responsible and less hot-headed.
Now now everyone lets keep it cordial. To be clear here @kantuchdis are you suggesting that racism is in it of itself no longer a thing? Or are you saying that race is not a factor in this setting which I brought up? I want to get a better idea of what your are arguing before I respond.
Agreed, these are some valid points @Ryman. Unfortunately, at least in my case, they were rather overt in saying that it was because of my race.
Nothing to be ashamed of man. You are only human and it is hard to notice something if it does not effect you directly. No harm done. In fact, I am just happy if this thread helped in any way.
Nothing to be ashamed of man. You are only human and it is hard to notice something if it does not effect you directly. No harm done. In fact, I am just happy if this thread helped in any way.
One observation I’ve had is that if I call and speak with a provider and dialogue a bit they are sometimes open to seeing me. The biggest issue though is that they stereotype based on perceptions of certain guys. I’m so conscious of it that I go out of my way to let them know I’m a professional that knows how to treat a lady. That usually opens the doors to consideration even though it’s bs. I say that because some of my white homies are ghetto as hell.
Don’t underestimate the role gender has to play here.
As a male of the species, I can say, and I think most guys would agree with me, there are beautiful girls of every color.
Now imagine if you were female. It’s different for them. Much more personal when you come to think about it.
Us guys, we can stick it into a light bulb socket with the lamp plugged in.
From the girl’s point of view, imagine some distaseful guy deep into your business, huffing and puffing above you, sweating, gagging, and spitting. Would you maybe be a little more picky then?
As a male of the species, I can say, and I think most guys would agree with me, there are beautiful girls of every color.
Now imagine if you were female. It’s different for them. Much more personal when you come to think about it.
Us guys, we can stick it into a light bulb socket with the lamp plugged in.
From the girl’s point of view, imagine some distaseful guy deep into your business, huffing and puffing above you, sweating, gagging, and spitting. Would you maybe be a little more picky then?
This subject came up many times on SH and it never ended well.
Prejudice is alive and well.
If you put this subject into prospective, you will realize that it takes a VERY long time for minds to change. Generations worth!!!! If you see where we were in my youth to where we are now, you would be amazed. Did it take 30 years, absolutely, but it will continue to get better.
50 shades of prejudice, what shade are you. Understanding your prejudice and the feasible prejudice of other people is the first step in helping the overall prejudice in this country will help.
Phantomkid, I am so glad to see you are willing to continue improving society instead of being the cranky old man who says things will never change. By starting this thread, you have started the process of healing minds.
For providers, your effort will absolutely be more difficult than that of a white, mature, rich, handsome, intelligent, gentleman such as myself.
Dress like me
talk like me
tip like me
build up references so the providers you have not met will be able to verify you as an individual rather than you as a strange black man.
PS, please, please, please do not turn into that cranky old black man who thinks everyone is prejudice on a scale of 50.
Prejudice is alive and well.
If you put this subject into prospective, you will realize that it takes a VERY long time for minds to change. Generations worth!!!! If you see where we were in my youth to where we are now, you would be amazed. Did it take 30 years, absolutely, but it will continue to get better.
50 shades of prejudice, what shade are you. Understanding your prejudice and the feasible prejudice of other people is the first step in helping the overall prejudice in this country will help.
Phantomkid, I am so glad to see you are willing to continue improving society instead of being the cranky old man who says things will never change. By starting this thread, you have started the process of healing minds.
For providers, your effort will absolutely be more difficult than that of a white, mature, rich, handsome, intelligent, gentleman such as myself.
Dress like me
talk like me
tip like me
build up references so the providers you have not met will be able to verify you as an individual rather than you as a strange black man.
PS, please, please, please do not turn into that cranky old black man who thinks everyone is prejudice on a scale of 50.