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Taking them off the market

Chiparlor

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Interesting perspectives. There is a way to see them off the market because most parlors prefer women under 50 years old. Taking a 60-year old off of the market is the way to go as long as both sides made a prior agreement in terms of expenses. 12 hours a day every day is very tiring for some of the 60 plus year-old women and thats when the time is right to get them off of the market. I cover most expenses. She pays nothing except her personal belongings, vehicle, vehicle insurance, and supporting herself/her family off of her nest.
 

DavidGLD

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I think the expression is put up or shut up.... If you can't back it up, don't' throw a punch, you are only going to get hurt. If you can back it up remember, most providers, especially asians are lying cheating manipulative women and have 3-4 guys like you, even if you live with them. Got it? Keep on walking, there are some great women out there, but there don't work in an AMP, they have real jobs, and a brain, and will be there for you, whether you are someone or not.
naiveté bruh...
 

Ltuser

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Rule No 2: Average AMP Girl in big city makes around $15k a month. /QUOTE]

Hey I've wondered about this. So if a girl works 20 days per month that's about $750 per day. How many guys is she seeing? She might work 10-1, so 13 hours, but there's a lot of dead time. Say 6-7 guys. That's maybe $100-130/guy with of tips.

I guess that seems right ballpark for a fs place. For r&t I'd guess average tip for a decent girl is more like $60-80, so she's making maybe 60% of your $15k.

Still a ton of cash, and all pre tax (though the smart ones get a w2, I think fake and from a real business, and do pay a little tax; though think immigration status ties in here too... This stuff is complex).
 

EliteVinChi

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I know it's not 100% accurate but almost all the girls exceed $10K and nearly closes at $15k mark

Assumptions are made of observation and talking to many girls from NYC- but not Chinatown-- mostly R & T shops.

10 -1 = Total of 15 hours
Minus Dead time, Most places average 8-9 customers a girl
Most girls get 1 day off, they work rest of the week including major holidays (23 days)
Assume $80 tips but most get $100

80X8 =640 X 23 =14720, Let deduct slow days, weekends -etc, They make over $12k easy.

FS places - some girls killing it!!
 

Hardpoll52

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I know it's not 100% accurate but almost all the girls exceed $10K and nearly closes at $15k mark

Assumptions are made of observation and talking to many girls from NYC- but not Chinatown-- mostly R & T shops.

10 -1 = Total of 15 hours
Minus Dead time, Most places average 8-9 customers a girl
Most girls get 1 day off, they work rest of the week including major holidays (23 days)
Assume $80 tips but most get $100

80X8 =640 X 23 =14720, Let deduct slow days, weekends -etc, They make over $12k easy.

FS places - some girls killing it!!
The fs girls often times have pimps, they put them in brothels and amps then take her tip money, what's left goes to the family, if she gets desperate she gets a b/f on the side to get more money for herself.
 

Chiparlor

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As far as I know, only 2 mongers know the exact figures few providers earn annually. I do taxes for few providers. The other monger did the same. Their real annual gross income varies on the desired disposable income from mongers to their preferred parlors/providers every year.
 

Mai68

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That's a fucked up mentality Bro! Every coin has two sides.

First thing First: They are here to make money. When you get close to them and when they start opening up, they all will tell you one thing' " I sold my soul, the day I started this Job" - I heard Exact same Phrase from more than 40 Providers over the years.

95% of guys visit AMPs are married or dating -- Only 5% single. Almost all the girls fallen in love at least once with one of those lying cheating guys once back home or couple of times here. After they get hurt and got cheated, they don't care anymore, they will start give same medicine back to us over and over. We never think about this part.

Unless you are up to the challenge of Providing comfortable life, be part of rehabilitation process, It's pointless, we have this discussion.
+1
 

DavidGLD

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I know it's not 100% accurate but almost all the girls exceed $10K and nearly closes at $15k mark

Assumptions are made of observation and talking to many girls from NYC- but not Chinatown-- mostly R & T shops.

10 -1 = Total of 15 hours
Minus Dead time, Most places average 8-9 customers a girl
Most girls get 1 day off, they work rest of the week including major holidays (23 days)
Assume $80 tips but most get $100

80X8 =640 X 23 =14720, Let deduct slow days, weekends -etc, They make over $12k easy.

FS places - some girls killing it!!
they must pay their fair share.
 

EliteVinChi

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That's the tricky part isn't it. This job is part of a vicious cycle, but it's probably something else that got them into it. Hard to get it out of their minds. And let's face it -- it's hard to get the habit out of our minds too.
Many Years ago, I got crashed and burned two times. Still hurts sometimes - Because I was deeply in love with someone out there, but when she really needed me, I wasn't ready. In American Standard I made Good salary. Still do, has comfortable life style- but It wasn't enough.

When Everything went south, I took a step back and dig-in for information about lifestyle, culture and Industry. I start learning about them and getting close to them as much as humanly possible. It did change my perspective.

I still fuck around- never settle down, Can't kick away old habits that I got into 15 years ago. I am a lone monger, but I know thing or two about some. Not all.

That is why I never criticize girls!! They are victims one way or other. Just pay, get your service, enjoy, have fun, walk away.
 

Nycthobby

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That is why I never criticize girls!! They are victims one way or other.
Mmm I really don’t like the word “victim” there... maybe their current circumstances put em in a position where this is their best option - but they’re the ones who put themselves in their current circumstance...

IMO these girls in most cases are NOT victims (not all cases, but a majority). They text their spa/agency to come into work, plan their schedules, they do their hair/nails/make-up daily for clients, they work on their acting & sex skills, etc. They know exactly wtf they’re doing and they in fact invest money and work veryyy hard at being successful at it - spare me the “victim” talk. I know for a fact cocktail waitresses & bottle girls at top clubs easily clear 3-500 on a busy night so there are DEF other jobs that don’t involve taking dick from the highest bidder. If a cute chick is escorting it’s likely because she wants to - or she’s just lazy, dumb, or some combo of the three. But I’m not buying the “theres no other options excuse”.
 

Schecter42

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Mmm I really don’t like the word “victim” there... maybe their current circumstances put em in a position where this is their best option - but they’re the ones who put themselves in their current circumstance...

IMO these girls in most cases are NOT victims (not all cases, but a majority). They text their spa/agency to come into work, plan their schedules, they do their hair/nails/make-up daily for clients, they work on their acting & sex skills, etc. They know exactly wtf they’re doing and they in fact invest money and work veryyy hard at being successful at it - spare me the “victim” talk. I know for a fact cocktail waitresses & bottle girls at top clubs easily clear 3-500 on a busy night so there are DEF other jobs that don’t involve taking dick from the highest bidder. If a cute chick is escorting it’s likely because she wants to - or she’s just lazy, dumb, or some combo of the three. But I’m not buying the “theres no other options excuse”.
Agree, they are not victims.
They don't even have to do FS. It is their choice. They could just do HJ, and then they wouldn't have the psychological burden that years of FS with strangers leads to. And they wouldn't be ho's if they did it this way.
It's their choice.
 

richardp2918

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For what it's worth, I personally know several former providers who have settled down with guys and live happy normal lives raising children. Maybe not all the ones that got married, but definitely a few I'm personally aware of. Of course, there are a lot of disasters and manipulative people out there, but ultimately most of them want to settle down and have happy family lives...and who can blame them?
 

bertie123

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As an offshoot of the dating thread, has anyone taken one of these girls off the market? I did this once in the past with a girl who had only been working about a month. Wound up costing me $$$ in the end..

i'm going to assume that if you do that, you're rich enough to do that
 
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