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Seeking Arrangments (& other Sugar Daddy sites)

BonerMaloney

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It's a whole other thread, but I've been around long enough, and over the years, in enough communities and places, to have been with some super hot women. No mongering no nothing, just hooking up. Some were model wannabes, a few even got some actual work. (Although what those gay designer dudes think is a beautiful woman compared to what we guys who want to fuck them think is very different, but still.) Some were credibly trying to be singers, actresses, whatever with the portfolios to prove it. Some were just super hot in the way that having rich parents with the nutrition and health and orthodontia that comes with it can help you be. Anyway they all were way above what I had any right to be with except that it's New York effing City, which has way more woman than men and a huge entertainment and marketing industry. Where you can get with hot women even if you don't have the wallet to stand on to see eye to eye.

Once you get past the novelty of "Holy shit! look at this woman I'm fucking. She's as hot as any porn star, movie star, hotter than anyone I knew in school. She's physically perfect! And I'm fucking her!!", and it is awesome at first, but after a while it's no longer so special and it's not what's necessary for the best sex.

Those of you who chase after the "9s and 10s" - never mind the nonsense of pretending that at that subjective far edge of the scale you can objectively apply a rating - it's beyond me especially if you've been successfully doing it.
 

didi88

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Most of the SBs that stick around with me have evolved into FBs that are mostly non paid b/c of how I make them feel in bed
This is great if you can find girls that are ok with it. But in my experience, they are very particular about the $$. There was an Asian girl I had seen multiple times. One time I gave her 100 less by mistake, and she didn’t hesitate to let me know about it
 

BonerMaloney

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they are very particular about the $$
This gets to the heart of why SA is useful. It's a good hybrid of dating app and escort web site, and the real SBs are a hybrid too. They're looking for cash but also still living life enough that if you bring something else to the table maybe they occasionally, just once in a while, only want that.

So yes there's the pain and depression of dating apps and bars and life, but at least your money gets you in the door. You might need to remake yourself to get to the next level, but at least you have an easier starting point.

Like a lot of guys in this thread if you are more than an ATM to them, when you drift away sometimes they miss you for you. Especially if you're not doing it as a cynical manipulative scheme.
 

Newasianstud

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I was totally sure it was a scammer put his girlfriend on the phone b/c he was pissed I strung him along and recognized my google voice #

But here's the kicker: She called me again! The next day!!
I'm like "Hello Who is this?" and she's like "You KNOW who this is!!!"

And then she proceeded to rant live on the phone, wouldn't give me a moment to get a word in edgewise. I had breakfast with the phone on mute and she went non-stop for 20 minutes. I made a few comments, she interrupted and went on for another 20 minutes. It was like TV. She said she was going to con her way into a PPM meet w/ me and then show up with "a friend" & it would not go well for me! She said she was recording this so I asked her if I could get a copy b/c it was that good.

And here's the extra kicker. I calmed her down after an hour and she got to know me a little on the phone and now ... we're friends! I told her if she needs to rant or just chat give me a call. She did later while she was waiting for her food delivery. TBH except for the crazy business to start, she's not that different from a few of my friends.

(No I don't plan on ever meeting her. And yes I know some of you instead would see it as a challenge to try to get in her pants for free somehow.)
Yeah, it wouldn't be any fun if I were dealing with crazies like this all the time. At least you have the patience to be "entertained". But this is the reason men avoid dating and go straight to amps.
 

Newasianstud

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This woman is playing a very dangerous game. I suspect you are young AND a gentleman, so she felt safe pulling this scam on you. However, if she miscalculates and pulls it with the wrong guy, she may need some serious dental work. I also suspect that if she does encounter a "Mr. Hyde" type she might stow the act and just sleep with him. She may even enjoy it.
I totally agree and I warned her the same. And if I were more vindictive, I might try to find her real identity and go after her. I have her pics. I have her phone number. And from all of her info that she gave me when we met, such as her job, where she grew up, where her family is, where she went to college, which I think are all her real info, I think I should be able to her social media account or two.
 

Newasianstud

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I'm not a part of the public M&G club and don't think any money should be exchanged before an in room encounter but at most a coffee chat to save your wallet and assuage any reservations you have about the girl. Why did a SO enter the conversation? If she's the man hater you described and is missing some marbles upstairs...she could have tried to expose you!

This is very interesting....what was the scam and how did it work....so we can be on the lookout? Did she cause a scene in public? I agree with @VJLUTZ that discretion is the better part of valor and she is going down a very dangerous road trying to hate on men and steal their money.
I'm not either. This was in fact my first public meet and it was arranged last minute by her. I didn't want to bore people with the details, but I guess it can serve as a cautionary tale for other newbies and people who are thinking about starting.

The plan was for her to host, but on the day of, she said she wanted to meet at a Starbucks nearby just to make sure I wasn't a creep and then we can walk over to her apt. I don't like wasting time with a meet and greet, but recent posts in this thread made me think it might be better/safer to go along this time. While we were getting to know each other at Starbucks, she asked how I found out SA, why I'm doing this, and whether it's because I'm trying to fill a void for something I'm not getting at home. This is where she found out I had SO. I admit I let my guard down because she seemed like such a sweet, innocent girl and I didn't suspect her at all. Conversation was flowing and I liked talking to her. In hindsight, she was obviously disgusted with my answers but did a great job hiding it. But then again, I'm sure her intentions were to pull a fast one on me all along no matter what I said. After about 30 min, she says she's ready to move forward so we leave Starbucks and starting walking. When we stopped at a red light, she asked me to put the money in her coat pocket. Her reasoning was that she wanted assurance before she showed me her apt. I should have known something was off right here, but I still wasn't suspecting her. But when we walked a couple more blocks and she told me she needed to go get her keys from her office, I finally "woke up." I quickly grabbed my money back from her coat, but still played dumb and told her to make it quick cuz I can't wait any longer. Lol. There had to be a separate exit out back from where she entered the building. She did not return, but texted me a few minutes later and asked me to leave and went on a morality rant. I warned her to quit this dangerous criminal scheme while she was ahead. By the time I got home, she had deactivated her SA profile, but I'm sure she has a new one up again for her next prey.
 

since13

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I’m just wondering, is secretbenefits worth it? Like can someone enlighten me I’m a bit newbie to this game. Thanks in advance
I don't think that is a question can really answer. I think it depends on the situation. Are are you asking whether SecretBenefits is better than other similar sites? If that is what you mean, I would say no, Seeking Arrangements is better.
 

Perfecto

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I'm not either. This was in fact my first public meet and it was arranged last minute by her. I didn't want to bore people with the details, but I guess it can serve as a cautionary tale for other newbies and people who are thinking about starting.

The plan was for her to host, but on the day of, she said she wanted to meet at a Starbucks nearby just to make sure I wasn't a creep and then we can walk over to her apt. I don't like wasting time with a meet and greet, but recent posts in this thread made me think it might be better/safer to go along this time. While we were getting to know each other at Starbucks, she asked how I found out SA, why I'm doing this, and whether it's because I'm trying to fill a void for something I'm not getting at home. This is where she found out I had SO. I admit I let my guard down because she seemed like such a sweet, innocent girl and I didn't suspect her at all. Conversation was flowing and I liked talking to her. In hindsight, she was obviously disgusted with my answers but did a great job hiding it. But then again, I'm sure her intentions were to pull a fast one on me all along no matter what I said. After about 30 min, she says she's ready to move forward so we leave Starbucks and starting walking. When we stopped at a red light, she asked me to put the money in her coat pocket. Her reasoning was that she wanted assurance before she showed me her apt. I should have known something was off right here, but I still wasn't suspecting her. But when we walked a couple more blocks and she told me she needed to go get her keys from her office, I finally "woke up." I quickly grabbed my money back from her coat, but still played dumb and told her to make it quick cuz I can't wait any longer. Lol. There had to be a separate exit out back from where she entered the building. She did not return, but texted me a few minutes later and asked me to leave and went on a morality rant. I warned her to quit this dangerous criminal scheme while she was ahead. By the time I got home, she had deactivated her SA profile, but I'm sure she has a new one up again for her next prey.
Thanks for sharing the scheme…you were lucky to snatch your money back.
 

VJLUTZ

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I have her phone number.
My experience is that these girls nearly always give out their real phone numbers. No burner phones or Google Voice for them. Not sure why that is. It seems like most can't imagine the consequences of their risky behavior.

If I am seriously contemplating a meet, I usually Google the phone number and see what comes up. In many cases, it yields a treasure trove of information that tells me nearly everything about them. I always try to do that just so I know what I am dealing with. Kind of dumb on their part though in case someone wants to ruin their lives. I won't be that guy (unless she tries to ruin my life first), but I am sure there are a-holes out there who would just for fun.

I finally "woke up." I quickly grabbed my money back from her coat, but still played dumb and told her to make it quick cuz I can't wait any longer. Lol.
Good on you for getting your money back. Surprised she did not notice it though. Most women have spider-senses when it comes to that.

She did not return, but texted me a few minutes later and asked me to leave and went on a morality rant
Its a lot of work to text a rant. I suspect she had her screed pre-prepared to send out to her victims. No doubt she relies on the morality angle to justify her scam.
 

이 회장님

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Yesterday I met up with my niece’s friend (the one I had sex with last year) for lunch. She told me that her relationship with my niece is now good. I told her I was glad to hear that and I don’t mind if my niece thinks of me as the “bad guy” because I respect her relationship with my niece. I’m gonna miss her cute and petite body. lol.
 

Cy99

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I have no idea what you are trying to say. Have u been on SA? If so how long and when? I clean up on there anytime im on there. I get very good rates and i see mostly sbs that are 19-24. My main sb is 20. My other sbs ive seen over 3 times are 20, 21, All 7.25+ face , 7.5+ body. 250 overnight a few freebies, 250 multiple hours for the 20 yr old. $300 for the 21 yr old multiple hours.

18 yr old overnights and some freebies $250.
22 yr old overnights some freebies 250 Asian very pretty
22 yr old Filipina 5ft8 7.5+ face , body 7.75 300 multiple hours. 24 yr old Taiwanese 400 7.25+face 7.5 body, really nice tits. 24 yr old white girl $300 multiple hours. 21 yr old white girl 7 face, 7.5 body multiple hours $100-150 1 freebie.

Among others these are all sbs i've seen more than 3 times. A handful i've seen over a dozen times.
Seems like you really know you're doing! I've been on sa for a month now, no such luck. Can you fill us in with some tips? Do you message 1000 gals with your number?
 

이 회장님

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Yesterday morning I had breakfast with my older sister and her husband. We then went for coffee.

When we walked in, a young girl was studying English and then she stopped, came over to us to take our order. I asked her if she’s studying English for an exam and told her that I can help her since I live in the area. I also told her that I respect her because she’s diligent unlike many other young people who are lazy and just ask their parents for help.

We got our coffee and then my older sister told me if sex is the only thing I think of. I told her to relax and I’m just being nice to her and she told me that’s BS. I then told her husband how can you deal with someone like her and then she stood up and left.

I told him to go to her, make me the bad guy and just tell her that I’m wrong for the sake of their relationship. He has to side with her. So he left. And the girl working saw what happened so I guess I won’t be coming here again. lol
 

Uniquelyme

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Philly is pretty valid wirh sbs just less of a selection. Saw two white girls $300 & $400. The $400 one would be $600 5ft9-10 curvy, implants face 8 nice body ass not too much 19 yrs old. The $300 one would be $500 or so in NY face 7 ish. Body naturally curvy 5ft7-5ft8 26. . If i lived there, I would be eating lovely.
 
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