Rude Clients at AMPs

[lokithewolf]

Dude are you serious....

First of all this happened in Summer almost 2 years ago

2nd, the places this happens to are generally disorganized management and chaotic staffing which makes them a target.

3rd - If Whitney Spa has ever been your favorite... you are a special breed dude... Lmao

Hahahaha~! NO. I hate Whitney spa but the reason why I go there was because my provider is very beautiful and looks like a kpop star. She’s also one of the very few that kiss.
The number one thing I hate the most about that place is that the walls in between the rooms don’t reach the ceiling so you can hear another session going on. And no door, just curtain.
The best place I’ve been to was Queen Spa in flushing. The rooms are private but I dont go there anymore because back in November, LE closed down two other places next door.

 

[Bit]

@Bit.

Session was OK. Thanks.

I'll respond, but I am sure we will never come to any sort of agreement on this issue.
You want to focus on number. I get that.
But the simple fact is that your numbers are meaningless without the underlying facts.
If the CDC came out and said that the rate of lung cancer was the highest in West Virginia, and gave all kinds of numbers to show it, but then DIDN'T REPORT that 90% of the people suffering from cancer were coal miners, it would be a pretty useless statistic, right?

What I am saying is that the numbers you want to base your argument on tells us nothing about the behavior of people being shot.
Bad things happen to people who behave badly. That's just a common sense fact of life.
Wise off to a cop, you might get arrested.
Act erratically or violently around a cop, you will certainly get taken down and possibly shot.

"Are you suggesting that a population group that represents 13% of society is responsible for creating a condition that forces their fatality at a rate that is 200% over their representation in society?"

My chart shows that more whites are killed by cops than blacks and hispanics combined.
But what percentage of violent crime is committed by each group?

This chart is 10 years out of date, but paints a very bleak picture. I believe the FBI counts hispanic either as white (think Robert Duran) or Black (think Big Papi) when tabulating crimes by race.
From this website: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime
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And from this website, which has more recent data the percentages seem to have gone down as of late, but are sill quite disturbing. I believe these numbers are
counting hispanics separately.

From this site: https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/...rtwork/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_Homicide_508.pdf
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So to answer your question. Yes. That is what I am saying. The percentages of groups shot by cops is more closely related to the amount of violent crime being committed by those groups, not the overall population percentage.

We will not agree on this topic. Ever. But that is fine.

I have like your non-political posts on this board, though.
Would like to see you do some reviews though, as you seem to have a lot to offer.

Take care and have a nice Sunday and long weekend.

I like your 2nd chart as it more current and it really provesout my central statement on an underrepresented group getting shot more often. The statistical correlation error that you're presenting is called a modus ponens error (if this happens first, then that will happen next). Crimes by a group is not correlated with the group getting shot and killed in the percentage that it is happening. I'm okay with us not agreeing. I just encourge you to consider that there can be things other than "victim mentality" going on in the lives of other people.

But back to the hobby...

As for posting reviews, I have over 100 numbers in my phone of mostly UTRs at this point (that I obviously should not post). I've also established relationships with several spa owners so my privileges are often beyond most.

I still enjoy the hunt I have fun pushing boundaries. I usually post comments on various spas encouraging others to push past boundaries. I'm just amazed and how many guys don't have game. We used to talk about that much more on SH.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

@Bit
Obviously I interpreted the 2nd chart quite differently than you, as those numbers (36% by 13% vs 30% by 62%) tell me a very different story.
But I get your point and yeah, we agree to disagree.

Yes, back to the hobby!
A lot of guys here talk about turning a legit massage girl or an HE girl to FS. And then "dating" them. I might be impressed if the girls were under 25 (or at least 30), but I have a feeling many of these women are over 40.
Which leads me too...
Game is too much work, IMO.
To me, game is like being good at a musical instrument. You're either born with it or you're not.
I wasn't. So for a guy like me, I could spend hours and hours trying to build up game, and what will it bring me? A 40 year old with wrinkles that I meet on match? Or some suburban R&T? Nah, too much effort, not enough return. No thanks.
I'd rather use my disposable income to get what I want.
And skimp in other areas to make up for it (small apt in burbs instead Manhattan condo, Camry instead of Porsche, Haggar slacks instead of Armani suits, etc..).
Tight Young Pussy >>> Fancy Things for me. And I can do it without game.
I've said it before and I will say it again. I'd rather buy my steaks at the supermarket than go out and hunt for them.

 

[Bit]

Hahahaha~! NO. I hate Whitney spa but the reason why I go there was because my provider is very beautiful and looks like a kpop star. She’s also one of the very few that kiss.
The number one thing I hate the most about that place is that the walls in between the rooms don’t reach the ceiling so you can hear another session going on. And no door, just curtain.
The best place I’ve been to was Queen Spa in flushing. The rooms are private but I dont go there anymore because back in November, LE closed down two other places next door.

The block for Queen Spa is overly hot right now.

If your in Flushing try 37th & Prince. If you venture to Fresh Meadows, the spots are better for a few bucks more.

 

[Bit]

@Bit
Obviously I interpreted the 2nd chart quite differently than you, as those numbers (36% by 13% vs 30% by 62%) tell me a very different story.
But I get your point and yeah, we agree to disagree.

Yes, back to the hobby!
A lot of guys here talk about turning a legit massage girl or an HE girl to FS. And then "dating" them. I might be impressed if the girls were under 25 (or at least 30), but I have a feeling many of these women are over 40.
Which leads me too...
Game is too much work, IMO.
To me, game is like being good at a musical instrument. You're either born with it or you're not.
I wasn't. So for a guy like me, I could spend hours and hours trying to build up game, and what will it bring me? A 40 year old with wrinkles that I meet on match? Or some suburban R&T? Nah, too much effort, not enough return. No thanks.
I'd rather use my disposable income to get what I want.
And skimp in other areas to make up for it (small apt in burbs instead Manhattan condo, Camry instead of Porsche, Haggar slacks instead of Armani suits, etc..).
Tight Young Pussy >>> Fancy Things for me. And I can do it without game.
I've said it before and I will say it again. I'd rather buy my steaks at the supermarket than go out and hunt for them.

The hobby has plentiful meat at the supermarket. In my honest opinion, it is usually overly processed and filled with chemicals (no, we can't start talking about the food industry or we'll both get kicked off this board lol). I like the freshness factor from the hunt with non-pros.

Hunting can bring you younger ones, but it does take work. I just find that in the time it takes for me to go to Manhattan and back for an experience, I can get a massage, have some fun and eat a meal in Flushing.

I do have a wider tolerance for age than you do. A lot of women in their 30s are all over Queens. To your point, for 20s, Manhattan agencies are a safer bet.

 

[Uniquelyme]

I'll bite.

@AutomaticSlim - Sorry bro, but the statistics the show that the darker you are, the worse the situation will be for you with LE. This has been studied to death and it is a numerical truth. Victim mentality has nothing to do with it. It has more to do with the images that have been poured into the minds of Americans by the media for the past 155 years. Not trying to argue the point. If you disagree with Harvard and MIT, that's fine. And to be abundantly clear, they also proved doesn't matter how light or how brown LE is on the other side. The civilian loses. Life is not fair and that's just the way it is. Nothing against you personally bro. Those are just #facts.

And for the record, most of the dudes in the Hell's Angel's are quite savvy with police. They teach classes on this topic for bikers. As laughable as this sounds, I would bet against the Hispanic guy in a suit in the middle of Elmhurst. I would bet my best 20-something AMP girl on it (as I know you prefer that age range).

Flushing is so much easier. Uber over and monger freely guys.

@Bit.

Session was OK. Thanks.

I'll respond, but I am sure we will never come to any sort of agreement on this issue.
You want to focus on number. I get that.
But the simple fact is that your numbers are meaningless without the underlying facts.
If the CDC came out and said that the rate of lung cancer was the highest in West Virginia, and gave all kinds of numbers to show it, but then DIDN'T REPORT that 90% of the people suffering from cancer were coal miners, it would be a pretty useless statistic, right?

What I am saying is that the numbers you want to base your argument on tells us nothing about the behavior of people being shot.
Bad things happen to people who behave badly. That's just a common sense fact of life.
Wise off to a cop, you might get arrested.
Act erratically or violently around a cop, you will certainly get taken down and possibly shot.

"Are you suggesting that a population group that represents 13% of society is responsible for creating a condition that forces their fatality at a rate that is 200% over their representation in society?"

My chart shows that more whites are killed by cops than blacks and hispanics combined.
But what percentage of violent crime is committed by each group?

This chart is 10 years out of date, but paints a very bleak picture. I believe the FBI counts hispanic either as white (think Robert Duran) or Black (think Big Papi) when tabulating crimes by race.
From this website: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime
View attachment 6225

And from this website, which has more recent data the percentages seem to have gone down as of late, but are sill quite disturbing. I believe these numbers are
counting hispanics separately.

From this site: https://www.ncjrs.gov/ovc_archives/...rtwork/Fact_Sheets/2017NCVRW_Homicide_508.pdf
View attachment 6226



So to answer your question. Yes. That is what I am saying. The percentages of groups shot by cops is more closely related to the amount of violent crime being committed by those groups, not the overall population percentage.

We will not agree on this topic. Ever. But that is fine.

I have like your non-political posts on this board, though.
Would like to see you do some reviews though, as you seem to have a lot to offer.

Take care and have a nice Sunday and long weekend.

Ok i tried not to look at the two of your posts but without even going and reading all of it. Here goes, Blacks and Latinos get targetted especially by White cops. Especially in suburban areas.

If you're White there is no way you would be aware of this the way Blacks and Latinos are. Im not blaming white ppl for what cops do. But it happens. Im extremely respectful and haven't encountered disrespect by any of em. However i have been targetted for being tanned.

I have family in the NYPD. Theyve told me it is a brotherhood. You gotta support your blue comrades cause they will support you. They know cops target people and some are racist anf it's tolerated and accepted.

I think there are far more good cops than bad but any job with some type of power can attract also bad candidates. Some cops definitely were bullied or didnt have power when they were younger and now have new found ways to show it.

It's really that simple. Here is a perfect example. When black lives matter came out. People said cop lives matter or whatever else life matters. Look im not black but i understand that they simply meant we matter also. So look at the senseless killngs and ofc all lives matter. No one said it didnt. That dude choked out in S.I. For selling loosies didnt need to get choked out among others.

 

[charliebrown]

There are assholes throughout society.
For those of you who are assholes, load and obnoxious in an AMP. Be aware that there could be an even shorter tempered man in a session.

 

[charliebrown]

Yep, I will agree that Black and Latino men are pulled over in much higher frequency than white men.
The golden rules of society always apply.

1) Nothing good happens after 12:00 at night.
2) Blue lives do matter. If you have those labels on your bumper when you are pulled over, it will give the cop something to complement you about. It is a great ice breaker.
3) Move slow as shit if at all. Keep your hands on the wheel of the car or in the air and damned if you cannot drum up the same respect for this man that you would your mother of grandmother.

The old saying is so true, a police officer would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6. They are constantly dealing with the dregs of the earth and there is an unconscious pressure on these people to stay safe. If you realize this and you focus your effort in relaxing this subconscious fear, you may or may not be out of legal trouble, but you probability of getting beaten and or shot will go down exponentially.

 

[Koondog]

I'll bite.

@AutomaticSlim - Sorry bro, but the statistics the show that the darker you are, the worse the situation will be for you with LE. This has been studied to death and it is a numerical truth. Victim mentality has nothing to do with it. It has more to do with the images that have been poured into the minds of Americans by the media for the past 155 years. Not trying to argue the point. If you disagree with Harvard and MIT, that's fine. And to be abundantly clear, they also proved doesn't matter how light or how brown LE is on the other side. The civilian loses. Life is not fair and that's just the way it is. Nothing against you personally bro. Those are just #facts.

And for the record, most of the dudes in the Hell's Angel's are quite savvy with police. They teach classes on this topic for bikers. As laughable as this sounds, I would bet against the Hispanic guy in a suit in the middle of Elmhurst. I would bet my best 20-something AMP girl on it (as I know you prefer that age range).

Flushing is so much easier. Uber over and monger freely guys.

That's not correct, government statistics dont bear that out. The Manhattan institute has been refuting those myths for years.

 

[Koondog]

Government stats show that blacks and latinos commit crimes at a much higher rate than other races. So naturally there are more interactions with police with those minorities as a result. Am I making news here? lol

 

[charliebrown]

Government stats show that blacks and latinos commit crimes at a much higher rate than other races. So naturally there are more interactions with police with those minorities as a result. Am I making news here? lol

Government stats show that blacks and latinos commit crimes at a much higher rate than other races. So naturally there are more interactions with police with those minorities as a result. Am I making news here? lol

Crime is closely correlated with poverty. It just so happens that minorities are a higher portion of the poverty stricken population.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Government stats show that blacks and latinos commit crimes at a much higher rate than other races. So naturally there are more interactions with police with those minorities as a result. Am I making news here? lol

They also have less money. Therefore they will commit more crimes. Its socio-economic more than anything. That doesnt take away from the fact there are bad cops out there. Or at minimun cops who are racist.

 

[Koondog]

Being poor is no excuse to commit crimes. There are bad individuals and racists in all professions.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

They also have less money. Therefore they will commit more crimes. Its socio-economic more than anything. That doesnt take away from the fact there are bad cops out there. Or at minimun cops who are racist.

Well, I'll tell you right now.
Whatever the cause behind that, it still does not give anyone the right or the excuse to commit crime.
And I will NEVER give up so much as one penny of what I have to appease someone else. They can go eat shit.
It would be like me saying I had a right to become a rapist or some kind of Eliott Roger nutcase because I wasn't able to get laid without paying for it.
Individuals are responsible to improve their own situations in life. Whatever the reasons.
Some people start off from a better platform than others.
Tough shit. Deal with it. I did. So can everyone else.

 

[Koondog]

Crime is closely correlated with poverty. It just so happens that minorities are a higher portion of the poverty stricken population.

There are a lot more poor white people in the country than minorities. Yet the statistics show the percentage of white crime is far lower than that of minorities. How can this be?

 

[Uniquelyme]

Well, I'll tell you right now.
Whatever the cause behind that, it still does not give anyone the right or the excuse to commit crime.
And I will NEVER give up so much as one penny of what I have to appease someone else. They can go eat shit.
It would be like me saying I had a right to become a rapist or some kind of Eliott Roger nutcase because I wasn't able to get laid without paying for it.
Individuals are responsible to improve their own situations in life. Whatever the reasons.
Some people start off from a better platform than others.
Tough shit. Deal with it. I did. So can everyone else.

It doesnt. It just is why it happens. But this doesnr take away from what i said about cops.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Being poor is no excuse to commit crimes. There are bad individuals and racists in all professions.

Who said they should commit crimes? im saying the lack of money is usually the reason someone commits crimes not race or ethnicity.

 

[Koondog]

Dude, you're GENERALIZING big time. Your experience with a few bad apples does not mean all or most cops are evil/corrupt/racist.

 

[Koondog]

Who said they should commit crimes? im saying the lack of money is usually the reason someone commits crimes not race or ethnicity.

I'm saying the lack of money is not the reason people commit crimes. If that were so millions of poor people in the country would be out committing crimes as we speak.

 

[AutomaticSlim]

I'm saying the lack of money is not the reason people commit crimes. If that were so millions of poor people in the country would be out committing crimes as we speak.

Correct.
And guys whom females do not find attractive would become rapists.
But some people have impulse control and a conscience, and others do not.
Worst thing we can do as a society is to make excuses for bad behavior.