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Robert Kraft

Unknown9988

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Crazy they also said there's 200 arrest warrants I don't think that hidden camera trick would fly here in NJ/NY they said they had hidden cameras installed and that's how they got caught
 

willbca

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That particilar APM in Florida was targeted for a specific reason and by extention so where the johns. It was overkill to say the least and that's because they were after someone. Was it Kraft? I don't know but they were rigged for big game.

Jersey isn't a Robo-Cop police State like Florida but the take away is that if they want something bad enough, they can get it.
 

Unknown9988

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That particilar APM in Florida was targeted for a specific reason and by extention so where the johns. It was overkill to say the least and that's because they were after someone. Was it Kraft? I don't know but they were rigged for big game.

Jersey isn't a Robo-Cop police State like Florida but the take away is that if they want something bad enough, they can get it.
Very very true
 

Gentle Jim

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I wonder if Kraft's masseuse gave him a HJ or Slobbed His Knob? Either way if caught on tape could present a problem.......but at 77 who the Fu** cares. Patriot Fans only hope he wins another Super Bowl, and not that he got his balls sucked!
 

Gentle Jim

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The NY Times seemed to indicate that a Bomb Scare was called in and the SPA was evacuated and ......that was probably when the police went in and placed the hidden cameras. The rest of the mall stores remained open .....very suspicious.
 

customer10

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The NY times article has a link to the police report for the spa owner. The investigating officer said he looked at rub maps to find a spa with activity. They then stopped the cars of men who had visited the spa and each guy admitted to being touched. I'm amazed that guys admitted it. I guess they were scared or perhaps they were promised that they wouldn't be charged if they admitted it ? Either way I would not recommend admitting anything to a cop.
 

Unknown9988

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The NY times article has a link to the police report for the spa owner. The investigating officer said he looked at rub maps to find a spa with activity. They then stopped the cars of men who had visited the spa and each guy admitted to being touched. I'm amazed that guys admitted it. I guess they were scared or perhaps they were promised that they wouldn't be charged if they admitted it ? Either way I would not recommend admitting anything to a cop.
You know what it's a scary thing talking about it and then dealing with it is something super different like right now I'm terrified cause I went to one used my card understandably on the card statement it won't say "rub and tug" but still that doubt of fear is there
 

RickeyRomance

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The number one thing that every monger has to get out of his head is the notion that the police 'can't do' something. They do whatever the fuck they please and get whatever judge to sign off on it. The police can lie to your face. They can lie in the media. They can get your emails and your texts via subpoena. They can pull your phone records and, in extraordinary cases, they can pull your fingerprints and facial recognition. Guys, the police in this Kraft case went through the AMP's garbage and pulled out jizz-soaked napkins that they took to their CSI division. They're not playing around and they have no intention on going easy on anybody. Anyone that they can nail WILL get nailed. The key is not being a nail.

For us, it's just a hobby. For them, this is a career. LE spends every day of their work lives figuring out ways to lock people up and what's better than locking up one MMS is locking up 100 mongers. The irony is that with law enforcement and with AMPs, both are volume businesses. Be smart and don't get caught. Take it as seriously as they do.
 

customer10

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I always pay the house fee with cash and tip the masseuse at the end with cash. I thought this was safe or safer since there is no 'negotiation' of money for 'sex acts' occuring. After reading the published police report it looked like some guys were charged with a crime for being touched. Apparantly if the masseuse initiates something and you do not defer then this is a crime ? They imply in the article that the house fee was inferred payment for prostitution ? Would this stand up in court or is the damage done anyway once you have been charged and your name is in the paper ?
 

Happydaysagain2

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I always pay the house fee with cash and tip the masseuse at the end with cash. I thought this was safe or safer since there is no 'negotiation' of money for 'sex acts' occuring. After reading the published police report it looked like some guys were charged with a crime for being touched. Apparantly if the masseuse initiates something and you do not defer then this is a crime ? They imply in the article that the house fee was inferred payment for prostitution ? Would this stand up in court or is the damage done anyway once you have been charged and your name is in the paper ?
It would not stand-up in court.. These issues will never go that far..They just want to fuck-up as many peoples life as possible.... It's called the perp walk..
 

RickeyRomance

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i find odd...a guy in krafts' position...going to a r&t place..rather than an incall apt thats tried and true...
Plausible deniability. Absent of the place being bugged, he can just say that he was there for a simple, cheap massage. If he’s in that other situation and he’s busted, there’s no other excuse.
 
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