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Review: Lovin' Love @BGC

SJ Boy

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Title: Review: Lovin' Love @BGC
Date: May 3, 2022
Phone: (408) 483-1340
City: San Jose
State: California
Location: The River East
Age Estimate: 25
Nationality: Korean
Physical Description: F:8, B:8.5, A:9, S:9 75%-85% in terms of actual resemblance to her photos on average, Love's body and face reminded me most of the girl in the last photo on BGC's website who's wearing a black top and flimsy black panties while looking up at the camera from the sofa. YOUNG & EASY ON THE EYES, FAMILIAR Young and easy on the eyes, that was the face that sized me up in the blink of an eye from behind the door as I pranced into her view beyond the threshold. And then she started towards me with her arms outstretched and her feet moving with little quick dramatic shuffles "Honey! So nice to see you!" She kissed me and looked into my eyes. No problem with that greeting at all. I sat down, popped my shoes off, and she was waiting with her hand outstretched and fingers wiggling throughout, to guide me to her dimly-lighted room once I got up.

Recommendation: Yes
 

Skeetmuffin

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I saw her too and was disappointed. Pics heavily photoshopped so expect a letdown on looks, but she not ugly. Avg build, not skinny. Face just GND ok. Good MM rack. F5.5 B6, no repeat
 

Pecker_wood

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Title: Review: Lovin' Love @BGC
Date: May 3, 2022
Phone: (408) 483-1340
City: San Jose
State: California
Location: The River East
Age Estimate: 25
Nationality: Korean
Physical Description: F:8, B:8.5, A:9, S:9 75%-85% in terms of actual resemblance to her photos on average, Love's body and face reminded me most of the girl in the last photo on BGC's website who's wearing a black top and flimsy black panties while looking up at the camera from the sofa. YOUNG & EASY ON THE EYES, FAMILIAR Young and easy on the eyes, that was the face that sized me up in the blink of an eye from behind the door as I pranced into her view beyond the threshold. And then she started towards me with her arms outstretched and her feet moving with little quick dramatic shuffles "Honey! So nice to see you!" She kissed me and looked into my eyes. No problem with that greeting at all. I sat down, popped my shoes off, and she was waiting with her hand outstretched and fingers wiggling throughout, to guide me to her dimly-lighted room once I got up.

Recommendation: Yes
Really well written, porn entertaining review, obviously you know what's porn memorable and real situation accurate, like saying you didn't want to do any work like FF during bj, but it misses what might be an issue for other mongers, like her overall looks or body which skeetmuffin had an issue with (was he correct?).

But I get that well written reviews are not necessarily for shilling reasons, but exercises in writing which I also do. We all have different motivations for writing reviews.

If a monger really likes a provider's service, attitude, and connects well, she will look beautuful and he may write shill sounding reviews. However, if you like a provider the most useful thing for other mongers is to describe accurately things that might be negative. Usually, you won't be dissed for that, and an overall positive review with negative issues is more credible, and will still boost the providers business.

What I don't like is not being warned that she has a stomach fat roll, or loose stomach skin, or thick vs thin, tits sagging, face not that good looking, not much passion, etc.

Like skeetmuffin I don't like being dissapointed over a negative issue that should have been in a positive review.
 

Pecker_wood

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I saw her too and was disappointed. Pics heavily photoshopped so expect a letdown on looks, but she not ugly. Avg build, not skinny. Face just GND ok. Good MM rack. F5.5 B6, no repeat
Skeetmuffin, I like your terse, but very informative comments, not just here but about providers you've seen. I looked, but couldn't find any ampreviews from you?. It would be great if you could write reviews about providers you don't want to repeat like BGC Love. Non repeat reviews are most useful.

Most of my reviews, I don't repeat, but still give them a "yes" since they are likely to appeal to someone who doesn't care about my negative issues. But I never toft a new provider without some positive reviews.
 

Skeetmuffin

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Skeetmuffin, I like your terse, but very informative comments, not just here but about providers you've seen. I looked, but couldn't find any ampreviews from you?. It would be great if you could write reviews about providers you don't want to repeat like BGC Love. Non repeat reviews are most useful.

Most of my reviews, I don't repeat, but still give them a "yes" since they are likely to appeal to someone who doesn't care about my negative issues. But I never toft a new provider without some positive reviews.
Yeah I’m just lazy to write reviews but usually almost always write mini’s or provide comments about good and bad experiences in the reviews or normal forums. Usually as comments in existing posts or reviews. Sometimes I throw in my 2cents on a new post
 

Skeetmuffin

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Someone in Discussion forum mentions that she is and worked at BGC and Viola before, but not providing previous names. I would advise mongers to try and find her old reviews before sampling based on pics. Given lower standards I don’t think most mongers will be overly disappointed like me, but I bet many wouldn’t repeat.
 

Pecker_wood

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Yeah I’m just lazy to write reviews but usually almost always write mini’s or provide comments about good and bad experiences in the reviews or normal forums. Usually as comments in existing posts or reviews. Sometimes I throw in my 2cents on a new post
Mini's would be great, you are so terse, you pack a lot of info in a few lines, I can live without all the long descriptions of bbbj technique or all the flowery descourses like SJ Boy which doesn't tell me anything useful. The most useful is to compare against well known providers.
 

SJ Boy

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Here, Pecker_wood, I'll boil down MY experience for ya, my friend:

"F:8, B:8.5, A:9, S:9 75%-85% in terms of actual resemblance to her photos on average, Love's body and face reminded me most of the girl in the last photo on BGC's website who's wearing a black top and flimsy black panties while looking up at the camera from the sofa"
=> Special Instructions for Mr. Pecker_wood:
1. Look at the last pic on BGC's website, 2. undo the smooth finish by 15%-25% and 3. replace with texturized human skin 4. What do we get? My perception of Love's appearance, body and face. Does it include defects I didn't see but you want? No. Is she a perfect specimen? Look at the picture. What do you think. I reckon an 8, and you might not so reckon.

I also disagree with the implication of an incomplete or "shill sounding review". The review pours out detail after detail as to why to me she was a F:8, B:8.5, A:9, and S:9, so people can make up their minds cause obviously they may not share my tastes.

The point is whether Love is worth it or not, and in my humble view your suggestions to tease that out are unhelpfully all over the map, my friend. Long discourses, blah blah blah - right, cause I've already referred you to the picture that can speak louder than I can as to her face and body, and I'm saying that her highest scores are on attitude and service, and I don't expect anyone to just sit there poking their cheek with an index finger saying "well SJ Boy says she has a smashing attitude and stellar service, so okay, I'll just accept that 'terse' conclusion".

- Just spotting things at random cause there's enough for a field day, I'm sure gems like this sounded better in your head: "Most of my reviews, I don't repeat, but still give them a "yes" since they are likely to appeal to someone who doesn't care about my negative issues." I find myself asking, "Darling, Pecker_wood, for all that insistence on the 'more credible', why state something you didn't experience in your review?"

-Then there's this one: "if you like a provider the most useful thing for other mongers is to describe accurately things that might be negative." And I find myself resisting the urge to crack up with the question "Why would you assume that unless a review says something negative about a girl it's not credible?" Talk about generalizing history - sorry to hear it's been so bad, dear Pecker_wood. Look at the picture and judge for yourself whether there's something negative about her looks to you. Does she have belly rolls? No. Am going to make up that she does to sound 'credible' to someone with a highly idiosyncratic definition of 'credible'? No. Am I going to make up negative details I didn't experience just because maybe other people might? No. Cause I'm not other people and everyone knows that we're all communicating our perception, not anything like 'water boils at 100 degrees centigrade at 1atm of pressure'.

Good luck to ya with that view on the 'credible' and the spoon-feeding power of the 'terse' - I'm sure others can see it and take these suggestions cautiously if at all. To clarify, I gave her the scores based primarily on her service and attitude with me; secondly, based on her looks as I saw them and believe others can judge by the reference and corrective I gave.
Aww, that's the thing about a review site, you have to sift through these, whatchamacallit, tedious linked letters and words and sentences and discourses to get to the credible and informative cave-man speak. Cheers.
 

Pecker_wood

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SJ Boy, I appologize if you felt offended by my criticism in agreement with the other critical voices of the thread, that despite your very entertaining, memorable and long winded review writing style, it's lacking in useful physical detailed information to keep a monger like me or skeetmuffin from dissapointment and wasting our money. I'm not saying don't write that way but include useful information, but I also get, it's probably difficult.

Skeetmuffin, in his short informative statement, he mentioned how Love's picture was photoshopped and how in person she physically deviated from picture, in detail what was good, so-so, and not so good.

I admit, that I couldn't be as on point as skeetmuffin as far as useful to real mongers. You seem to be better for all the wannabe monger readers who outnumber the real monger readers. I do think you are a real monger, but you are in love with your own experience (nothing wring with that either).

Ironically, in your review of Wacky BGC Pink you really trashed her, but you did get a lot of support that your descriptions were on the mark and saved mongers from going thru similar bad experience.

And, in BGC Pink thread, comment #28. br2k mentions "...I personally have found negative reviews to be more credible than some of the overly romantacized novels some guys post...". Actually, in support of your negative review of Pink, but also in agreement with my own view.

Re-reading I realize you are very good at describing action sequences in memorable ways which is better for service and attitude, but with FB ratings you confuse personal judgement for description. FB are all judgements and are meaningless unless calibrated or compared.

If I know I'm in agreement with another monger I will more likely trust his judgement, but otherwise I want to judge for myself. I like MM tits over natural, so don't say she has great tits, which may be true for you, but not me.

. I do trust skeetmuffin's F rating, because he had detailed physical descriptions of her body rating.

F rating in terms of attractiveness tends to be subjective; however, most guys will agree on ddg, and lesser aggreement as she moves away from ddg. Some will mention, looks like personality so an so who the reader can google.

But when I read your physical description in a review, it's very light, or it's a good fiction writing style that facilitates the reader conjuring up what looks good to them, which is more likely to lead to dissapointment.

For example in your reviews: CA Sharon, physical description: "Not a spinner but not fat by any measure. Loved her boobs & ass". So, what do her tits and ass look like? I get you loved them, but I'm not you.

With BGC Amy, who I saw, you had her age as 26, what her pics look like, but I'm pretty sure her pics are at least 10 years old. I think your good experience with Amy, colors your perception (and I agree her service and attitude are first rate).

I can tell you are not a visual thinker, but use words to create positive visual images for the reader without any negative reality getting in the way. While skeetmuffin and myself use words to accurately describe reality or concepts, which if you don't understand or have experience with probably won't get. But I admit, skeetmuffin is better.

Your long winded reaction is a "tell" that you don't understand why your fun to read reviews for most readers are fairly useless for real mongers to avoid dissapointment, for them to judge for themselves rather than you judge for them.
 

Skeetmuffin

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To be clear, I went into my session blind as there were no reviews then. Had I read the above review based on FB I Probly would have had more confidence to toftt, and been very disappointed. Also pretty telling that no one else has since chimed in that Love is a looker

Couple new girls started at BGC this week with nice pictures but having just been burned I’m staying far away unless multiple good trusted reviews come thru. This is what what happens when u are deceptive, real smart BGC. I’m sure I’m not alone in this sentiment
 

kjc

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To be clear, I went into my session blind as there were no reviews then. Had I read the above review based on FB I Probly would have had more confidence to toftt, and been very disappointed. Also pretty telling that no one else has since chimed in that Love is a looker

Couple new girls started at BGC this week with nice pictures but having just been burned I’m staying far away unless multiple good trusted reviews come thru. This is what what happens when u are deceptive, real smart BGC. I’m sure I’m not alone in this sentiment
FYI neither girl that started w/ BG are new. Yuki's been here w/ BG earlier this yr., mult reviews on TER. Kimmy aka Bree, also mult reviews.
 

Pecker_wood

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To be clear, I went into my session blind as there were no reviews then. Had I read the above review based on FB I Probly would have had more confidence to toftt, and been very disappointed. Also pretty telling that no one else has since chimed in that Love is a looker

Couple new girls started at BGC this week with nice pictures but having just been burned I’m staying far away unless multiple good trusted reviews come thru. This is what what happens when u are deceptive, real smart BGC. I’m sure I’m not alone in this sentiment
I was aware that you probably hadn't seen the positive review. But I realized that not being disappointed in provider's looks is a common thread. It's at the basis of complaints about fake and inaccurate, non current photos.

I realize that it's probably a lost cause getting accurate physical descriptions. Part of the problem is the very wide range of monger response, perception, etc. Some, I think don't get dissapointed, partly even if her looks initially are disappointing, they don't in the end feel disappointed if the service and attitude are good. Reading Yuffie's reviews you can't tell her body is in the 5 range since her service and attitude are 9-10. In fact, service, attitude seems more important than looks.

Which is why orgs are deceptive on pics to get the monger in the door. LSC is famous that all their providers rate high on service and attitude. Only Cora ymmv, but that's apparent in the reviews and she is good looking.

Although good service and attitude are I think recent developments driven by review sites and competitive internet porno. In the past, guys just wanted to screw or get bjs from a hot looking girl, and didn't care about service, attitude, connection, whether she came, etc.

To be fair, about half of all reviews, don't mention specifics plus or minus about looks or body. Or, "hot body" qualifies as specifics rather than "curvy, but not fat, MM C cone shaped tits balanced by moderate hip width". However, if a bunch of reviews say "hot body", then it's not just an in individual reviewer opinion, but likely to be true for the reader.

I find taut skin, muscle tone, more youthful and more appealing, some guys care about that while others don't care about that type of feel, sometimes only whether skin is smooth, or only looks.

In the - see women, but no touch - world, it's difficult to explore touch sexuality, awareness.

I suspect a lot of mongers are are rarely disappointed in a providers looks or skin feel if they get good service, and consequently don't get the point of warning other's about that.

If a monger doesn't observe a body fault, or consider it a fault, then why report it?, unless from reading other reviews, they get some guys have issue with it. Also, if you personally think it's a fault, others may consider it a virtue. I hate big booties, but others love them. I report that I don't like them if the provider has one, so the reader knows I probably won't do a good job on elaborating, just like I'm not into bjs, so don't ask me about the provider's bj technique.

One of the common defaults of newbies is that all mongers like the same thing. I get pm's from newbie's asking me who I reccomend at LSC as if, if I like them, they will like them. If I asked them what they liked, they wouldn't be able to tell me, type of tits, ass, toas, curvy, etc. all the stuff the provider doesn't have control over, vs service, attitude, connection which are learned responsiveness of the provider.

I'm amazed that since tits are such big sexual attractors, there is less description of tit shape than for booties, yet if you google tit shapes, you will get a dozen shapes, while only about 4-5 butt shapes. Only tit size, A-DD is typically mentioned and if MM or not.

There is this common logic that natural like organic is better than MM, but guys forget that the whole point of MM boobs is to make them look bigger and better than natural. They are also mistaken in thinking that only natural boobs are soft, partly because saline boobs put in through armpit holes are softer than natural (BGC Jamie has these). Guys think that because they can't see the under boob scars, the boobs are natural. Real young boobs have some firmness, the most natural are silicone with correct viscosity.

Lots of misinformed judgements which are meaningless, but are passed off incorrectly as detailed description. FBSA ratings are not detailed descriptions. I find FBSA ratings are only meaningful averaged over a dozen reviews and then in comparison to other providers (TER ratings do work). Even FBSA from same reviewer relative to different providers doesn't work and is too dependent on monger's biases.
 

Skeetmuffin

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I find least useful the reviews that don’t give FB scores and barely comment on looks other than a quick general comment. And yet the review is multiple paragraphs long. Second worse are reviews that do give FB scores but there is no further detail comments to support. I feel like the two types above account for like 40-50% of reviews. Right or wrong, I just ignore them as fake or shills
 

Pecker_wood

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I find least useful the reviews that don’t give FB scores and barely comment on looks other than a quick general comment. And yet the review is multiple paragraphs long. Second worse are reviews that do give FB scores but there is no further detail comments to support. I feel like the two types above account for like 40-50% of reviews. Right or wrong, I just ignore them as fake or shills
Good observation. I have a hard time doing the FBSA scores, absent defined definitions for the levels.

But even the reviews missing ratings or detail can be useful. Usually, the number of reviews in a month for a new provider is good indicator of overall quality. The new provider with most reviews in a month is certainly good with high level of satisfaction, because the better the experience with a new provider, the more likely the monger is to write a review. I'm always wary if the number of new reviews is down.

Asking a reviewer in the comment section about detail can work. If you ask right after posting, and you are most likely to get a response from guys like you who don't normally write reviews but will usefully comment. This also by example helps inform the reviewer, so next time, hopefully he includes more detail.

I think a useful comment strategy is to ask how the reviewed provider compares to other providers they have seen. Usually limited to 1 or 2 of the FBSA in terms of better, worse, and why. The process of explaining why one provider has a better body for example compared with another produces a lot of useful info.

For example, I like LSC Hera's firmer MM cone tits better than BGC Jamie's which were too soft, and they went flat on her back, but looked great standing. Ideally, I would like Hera's tits to be a bit bigger, like C or C+. The remainder of Jamie's body edged out Hera's body which had no slight belly bulge like Hera.

I think reviewers are reluctant to compare, because social norms discourage comparing looks, etc. But, if in comments, you ask for comparison it makes it ok to respond.
 
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