but we all keep going back, lol.... i too saw KISS - it was ok for me (BBBJ, DFK, P2P, sitting on sofa RCG, CG in bed, MISH, doggy, CIM) had to change many times due to seeing face and almost loosing wood, but i agree not worth the premium - not sure if age but these days i don't find enjoyment doing this hobby, much better using my right hand and browsing porn. thinking of getting one of those masterbators, input on them from you mongers would be good, not sure which one to get.