"Raw/BB Sex with Provider"

[Schecter42]

Clarify that 5% statistic. Studies have shown less than a 5% transmission rate among married couples with one seropositive and the other negative after one year.
The CDC puts a 1/2500 risk of transmission female to male in a single act, which if translated to spa girls and thier customers, would be the % of working girls who are infected times 1/2500. Even if the % was as high as 10%, that translates to a 1/25,000 risk per event for all males having unprotected sex. But that risk factor of 1/2500 is global. Individual factors could make the risk substantially higher or lower.

Are HIV transmission rates for spa girls similar to those in the general population. I wouldn't think so. Don't spa girls have more vaginal tears due to all the pounding they take?

 

[Koondog]

I don't buy into what people say about AMPs requiring girls to get tested. It makes no sense and judging from what Ive seen after guys start reporting in that so and so gave me X, there is little consiquence if something happens. At worst the girl is fired and finds another place to work at. More often though nothing happens, or sometimes she will take a break from her main place and continue elswhere only to come back to her main place a few months later after everyone forgets. There really is no consequence for the house. What is guy going to do? Write bad reviews? Call the cops? These places are in constant danger of stings and random visits from health or other departments. They are prepared. As far as word getting out to the community, this has happend before and guess what those places are still alive and well with the same chicks working there.

Even when trusted members try to be helpful and give warnings about girls they know to have caught something they are ridiculed and mocked and told stop spreading bullshit.

 

[TGBeldin]

It is essentially the same with both the women and the clients--except there is even less accountability among the clients. It is one of the dangers out there, and because some percentage of AMP workers and customers are irresponsible, it sadly always will be.

 

[Rombulous]

This thread is pretty long and not sure if you guys may have touched on another point of discussion. I was part of a few different SugarDaddy private groups, were guys would exchange tips and leeds on SBs (Googlegroup, discord, etc.). One thing that came up in every one of those groups multiple times was guys catching something from there SB. It was much rarer to get a pregnancy scare but not unheard of. Back to the STDs, just from those groups it seems like STDs happened all the damn time in the SB world. If there was a group of a dozen guys at least 3-4 would at some point be warning the others about a chick he got sores from or something. The obvious difference is how prevalent BBFS is in the SB world, but just bringing it up in case others may have noticed the same thing.

I'd be more concerned about pregnancy with a SB. She knows your stomping grounds or with enough persuasion she can solicit your information from the Hotel. In order to file for child support she needs your name and address at minimum to my knowledge.

If you go raw in a barely English competent AMP provider the worst outcome is antibiotic resistant bacteria. She generally is not going to have a baby by a random no name monger, they care too much about losing face...

(But if you move her in your home and she's alienated from family and friends that's a completely different story)

There are about 5 Women in the "scene " I'd go raw in but that's because they are very low risk.

1) They are legit only. They barely would give HE. Only I can get FS because it's through word of mouth from another provider

2) I have known each for about 3-5 years

3) They are either now a manager or don't do massage currently anymore (but I can meet them in their friends spa)

4) They are over age 45 and unlikely to get pregnant, if they do they will terminate it.

5) They know very little English and won't be able to communicate the information required to get me subpoenaed

6) They would not think of doing so regardless because they would never be able to explain to their other children and family why they are giving birth to a half Black baby at the age of 45.

 

[hikeupskirts]

Be aware how it's easy to be contaminated... you won't feel happy with any unpleasant itch around your crotch.

 

[headsup]

Oldie but goodie

 

[jfox987]

This thread is pretty long and not sure if you guys may have touched on another point of discussion. I was part of a few different SugarDaddy private groups, were guys would exchange tips and leeds on SBs (Googlegroup, discord, etc.). One thing that came up in every one of those groups multiple times was guys catching something from there SB. It was much rarer to get a pregnancy scare but not unheard of. Back to the STDs, just from those groups it seems like STDs happened all the damn time in the SB world. If there was a group of a dozen guys at least 3-4 would at some point be warning the others about a chick he got sores from or something. The obvious difference is how prevalent BBFS is in the SB world, but just bringing it up in case others may have noticed the same thing.

what have people caught?

 

[Rombulous]

what have people caught?

Japanese encephalitis

 

[cheezewhiz]

Japanese encephalitis

Some have caught that but seems all on this site have caught............Yellow Fever

 

[Talo]

what have people caught?

Nothing detrimental. Most of it could clear up on It's own or with some antibiotics. More than one had symptoms (sores or red patches) in very visable places, so embarrassment was a factor. At least one of those guys lost an SO because of it.

 

[Bricktop]

Be aware how it's easy to be contaminated... you won't feel happy with any unpleasant itch around your crotch.

Shave your pubes

 

[Already21]

Why would they require regular testing? Like the owners care? By the time the results come in 1/2 would have moved on to another joint And how to enforce it There's a general culture supporting safe practices. My policy on going bare is if she offers it, I refuse. and only one has offered. She insisted she was "good" and in fact had test results with her that she handed to me to examine and the HIV test was negative I read through the entire report and I looked up at her and said, "You have tested positive for herpes simplex 1 & 2"

 

[Joban101]

Who was this?

Why would they require regular testing? Like the owners care? By the time the results come in 1/2 would have moved on to another joint And how to enforce it There's a general culture supporting safe practices. My policy on going bare is if she offers it, I refuse. and only one has offered. She insisted she was "good" and in fact had test results with her that she handed to me to examine and the HIV test was negative I read through the entire report and I looked up at her and said, "You have tested positive for herpes simplex 1 & 2"

 

[Koondog]

Why would they require regular testing? Like the owners care? By the time the results come in 1/2 would have moved on to another joint And how to enforce it There's a general culture supporting safe practices. My policy on going bare is if she offers it, I refuse. and only one has offered. She insisted she was "good" and in fact had test results with her that she handed to me to examine and the HIV test was negative I read through the entire report and I looked up at her and said, "You have tested positive for herpes simplex 1 & 2"

You looked at SOMEONE'S test results. Not necessarily hers. We have no idea what these girl's real names are. Any of her friends could have been tested and gave that paper to her in order to convince someone that she's clean.

Unless I knew the girl quite intimately and for sure knew her actual name and went with her for testing no way I am taking their word for it about ANYTHING.

 

[Already21]

I related that story for its comic value. But they were her results.

 

[Joban101]

Curious as to who this provider is?

I related that story for its comic value. But they were her results.

 

[findinit]

Why would they require regular testing? Like the owners care? By the time the results come in 1/2 would have moved on to another joint And how to enforce it There's a general culture supporting safe practices. My policy on going bare is if she offers it, I refuse. and only one has offered. She insisted she was "good" and in fact had test results with her that she handed to me to examine and the HIV test was negative I read through the entire report and I looked up at her and said, "You have tested positive for herpes simplex 1 & 2"

This doesn't surprise me in the least. It should be a sticky post that we can link to every time the STD denial conversation comes up.

 

[findinit]

You looked at SOMEONE'S test results. Not necessarily hers. We have no idea what these girl's real names are. Any of her friends could have been tested and gave that paper to her in order to convince someone that she's clean.

Unless I knew the girl quite intimately and for sure knew her actual name and went with her for testing no way I am taking their word for it about ANYTHING.

Wouldn't that would make it even worse?