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Ok, Boomer

VJLUTZ

VJLUTZ

Desire is the opposite of death.
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charliebrown said:
Since gas taxes are the only current method for generating money for road maintenance, it will continue to increase for those who cherish their ICE vehicles while the electric car drivers are cruising along tax free
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CB, you really don't believe Government will find a way to tax EVs? I hear a mileage tax bandied about. They are looking the other way for now to encourage the technology, but don't be fooled. Once the EV market goes beyond a certain threshold, the taxman will be all over it (like white on rice). LOL.
 
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mikemendez said:
At least she’ll never forget you, lol.
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The odd thing was a lot of customers that went to that place were drunks. Local winos who would wander in there and not leave. Used to hang out there all the time as I was close to the acting manager. What you see behind the scenes really can be amusing. Asian guys calling for 3am appointments and the girls obliging, with me sleeping with the manager in the next room. Customers inviting the girls and whoever else was there to their house for dance and drink parties after work. That place really will hold some good memories for me.
 
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I'll tell you what President Trump should do.
Right after rescindning DACA.
Executive order to end the f*cking Capital Gains tax. Immediately!
Goddamn unconstitutional bullshit tax if there ever was!
End it now President Trump....End it....!
 
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VJLUTZ said:
CB, you really don't believe Government will find a way to tax EVs? I hear a mileage tax bandied about. They are looking the other way for now to encourage the technology, but don't be fooled. Once the EV market goes beyond a certain threshold, the taxman will be all over it (like white on rice). LOL.
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I agree with you VJ, but the I need to ask you this, do you really think they will not tax an ICE driver as much if not more?

There solution will be to tax mileage driven, they will do this across the board and they will continue the sales tax for gas. You will be double taxed!!!! Gotta love it right!
 
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As if taxes aren’t bad enough, on top of the taxes there are all kinds of fees that no one understands. Try asking someone to explain the fees and they have no idea.
 
VJLUTZ

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charliebrown said:
IDo you really think they will not tax an ICE driver as much if not more? There solution will be to tax mileage driven, they will do this across the board and they will continue the sales tax for gas. You will be double taxed!!!! Gotta love it right!
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Yeah, the tax man ripped me a new asshole long ago. Every year I add up all I pay in taxes and weep. However, I spend a very (very) small percentage of my income on gas, so I'm not too worried about that part of my budget. In fact, if it were not for Hobby related trips, my gas budget would be a lot smaller than it already is. If I feel that EVs offer better value for my $$, I will re-evaluate. However, I think we are a ways away from that day.
 
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charliebrown said:
VJ, my wife has been using a battery operated vibrator for years with no issues, Prius batteries are lasting way longer than originally expected. There is a car service out west that has run strictly tesla for over 7 million miles and they are absolutely overjoyed with the TCO.

I get it buddy. Just do me a favor and take a 3 performance for a test drive. they are actually stealing market share form BMW and Audi. It really is an amazing product. It does have some little quality issues, but that product is going to revolutionize the auto industry like the IPhone did the phone industry.

I said this before, if you already have a car, you should run that thing into the ground for the sake of the environment. If you are rich enough to afford a BMW you would be wise to at least shop a Tesla and compare the handling, acceleration, deceleration and ride. You will be shocked like my wife was 10 years ago!!!!

PS, you are not buying economy cars!!!
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I have a nephew that bought a Prius in 2005. He was told to expect the battery to last 5 years or so and then need ot be replaced. now going on 15 years and 250K miles, no battery problems, and still 45-50 MPG. the rest of the car looks pretty beat at this point, but it all still runs as his every day driver. the thing thats also really cool about it is that the engine in it sounds and tests out like it is brand new. not having direct connection to the drive train can really extend the life of an engine. in a prius it just runs to charge the battery.

It's also not a good idea to make decisions about a car, solar power, etc. based on information and technology from 10 years ago. the technology is changing too fast, as innovation is very hot in this sector. Maybe you dont want to be first on your block to jump to the new tech, but people shouldnt ridicule people who do, or pigeon hole them as tree huggers or liberals. My nephew did it for the mileage, more than anything else. I did solar, because I saw a very short payback and a solution for stable power. Not polluting is an added benefit.

As far as the Tesla I've been in one, and the performance is unlike any other car i've ever driven. the things that turn me off about tesla though is that they dont really allow anyone else to service them, and there are virtually no parts or manuals. that bugs me as an amateur mechanic. Not that I'm ready at this point to repair one, but i dont like that kind of business model and wont support it.
 
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Koondog said:
"walking, bike riding, electric bike, public transportation and especially rail is the most efficient method of transportation."

Those options don't help much when you're job is 40 miles away from your suburban home.
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Some countries have high-speed rail at 125 to 160 mph. Should be good for a fast commute.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail
 
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Tyler1 said:
Our efficiency in use of fossil fuels continue to improve.

Most plants produce energy at a range of 40 to 65 percent efficiency (the accepted engineering standard) compared to the theoretical maximum efficiency. Though improvements will likely be minor, it is realistic to seek a goal of 80 percent maximum theoretical long term. I do expect this to also flat line at some point in the future as efficiency nears closer to the maximum theoretical.

My problem with renewable energy production is due to the nature of the energy source (sunlight & wind is not as energy dense as coal) and the way it stores energy, we have already approached the point where improvements will be negligible. At this point it will have to be able to be mass produce and continue servicing these devices. That takes economical and environmental resources that could otherwise be going into expanding and maintaining our current nuclear energy infrastructure which produces more electricity today than all the "renewable" energies put together. Even when we haven't built a new nuclear facility since 1990 and have been heavily subsidizing every "green" program with taxpayer money nuclear is still the only realistic long-term strategy to resolve these issues. Though there will be safety and disposal concerns as well.

See the following page and article:
https://www.energy.gov/ne/articles/5-fast-facts-about-nuclear-energy
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-...the-energy-solution-environmentalists-climate

But people are against nuclear energy so I guess until then I will support fossil fuels.
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The second article is interesting. If the safety and disposal of nuclear waste are concerns, perhaps there should be nuclear reactors to produce fusion energy instead of fission energy.
 
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