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Nancy's in Elmhurst, would you recommend?

TGBeldin

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Rombulous, nice post. I don't agree 100% but you make some good/important points.

First, all places, even the best ones, vairy significantly with the individual person you see, and even day to day with what else is going on in her world (and your frame of mind going in).

Second, most reviews are hyperbolic. Reviews and comments are usually either glowing/fantastic/awesome, or trash/horrible. Very few reviews ay "this was average. A solid "C" experience." And if they do, people interpret that as one step above being ripped off.

I also agree that the LE situation at the fed level (which does trickle down) has reduced all of supply, demand, and most of all, information flow/advertising. In addition, the economic things you mention are also true.

The one place I disagree with you is the extent of the deflation. What I see more traveling around is we are going back to the '60s. It is going out of the public eye more, and more WOM. More slipping a $20 to a concierge/bell hop for info on where to go. More being aware of one's surroundings and looking/listening for hints. This absolutely increases risk substantially, and reduces a guy's options substantially--not good for the clients or the providers.

I've been at this well over 40 years now. The cities I spend a lot of time in are not a problem for me--I built up my little black book, have enough regulars to see when I am there, and they pass me info on new women they know. But for cities I have not built a history, things are getting much tougher to break into. Even month old info from a reference is out of date--the place has closed, that woman isn't there any more, etc.

The way the business operates will change, but I do not think it will go away. It will not likely improve, unfortunately.
 

Levin79

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Similar to DH, this place is over-hyped. I am seeing places that would be considered run of the mill, mediocre, dime o dozen, garden variety in 2010 now be praised as the promised holy land.

Any monger that only speaks highly of one place is not a true discerning Senior monger. And by the laws of supply and demand and human nature, there is no way one single place provides good consistent quality and service indefinitely unless adequate competitive pressures are present in the market.

What we are dealing with here gentlemen is a deflationary situation where demand has dropped along with supply and it's a race to the bottom. A combination of higher wages for Women in mainstream employment, a tougher regulatory environment and the ability also for Women to make money off the internet by broadcasting themselves gaming and appealing to reclusive Men's fetishes has led us to this pitiful dilapidated state of affairs of the hobby.

Yes there are new places popping up but they are just spontaneous embers that don't last long. I am not sure what lies ahead but the world's oldest profession is not doing well in the US of A.
I agree with some of your points but I’m seeing more and more supply on the market.
 

Levin79

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Rombulous, nice post. I don't agree 100% but you make some good/important points.

First, all places, even the best ones, vairy significantly with the individual person you see, and even day to day with what else is going on in her world (and your frame of mind going in).

Second, most reviews are hyperbolic. Reviews and comments are usually either glowing/fantastic/awesome, or trash/horrible. Very few reviews ay "this was average. A solid "C" experience." And if they do, people interpret that as one step above being ripped off.

I also agree that the LE situation at the fed level (which does trickle down) has reduced all of supply, demand, and most of all, information flow/advertising. In addition, the economic things you mention are also true.

The one place I disagree with you is the extent of the deflation. What I see more traveling around is we are going back to the '60s. It is going out of the public eye more, and more WOM. More slipping a $20 to a concierge/bell hop for info on where to go. More being aware of one's surroundings and looking/listening for hints. This absolutely increases risk substantially, and reduces a guy's options substantially--not good for the clients or the providers.

I've been at this well over 40 years now. The cities I spend a lot of time in are not a problem for me--I built up my little black book, have enough regulars to see when I am there, and they pass me info on new women they know. But for cities I have not built a history, things are getting much tougher to break into. Even month old info from a reference is out of date--the place has closed, that woman isn't there any more, etc.

The way the business operates will change, but I do not think it will go away. It will not likely improve, unfortunately.
The problem with reviews is we have no each other looks like.What I mean by this statement is a guy decent looking, good body, hygiene etc.I have providers tell me over and over how disgusting looking some of the customers are in regards to looks and hygiene.Some providers have told me if they don’t like the looks of a monger will state,”busy”.
 

TGBeldin

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The problem with reviews is we have no each other looks like.What I mean by this statement is a guy decent looking, good body, hygiene etc.I have providers tell me over and over how disgusting looking some of the customers are in regards to looks and hygiene.Some providers have told me if they don’t like the looks of a monger will state,”busy”.
Completely agree on hygiene. The same with manners--treat her nicely (and that is independent of the amount of the tip) and she will treat you better. As far as looks, don't be a slob, have clean clothes; if I had to be model materiel I would get shoved out the door every time.
 

Levin79

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Completely agree on hygiene. The same with manners--treat her nicely (and that is independent of the amount of the tip) and she will treat you better. As far as looks, don't be a slob, have clean clothes; if I had to be model materiel I would get shoved out the door every time.
This why reviews mean little to me because I have been with providers that were reviewed poorly and had a great time.However, bottom line is a provider is in the game to get paid but a good looking or clean dude makes her job a lot better.Look at Doll House and Nancy’s reviews are all over the place in my opinion because of a how a monger is looking.I have seen some mongers that were decent looking and many that were fat or rotten teeth.
 

Rombulous

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Honestly, however how old or young a monger if he stays in shape and clean looking much better chance of feeling some chemistry with a provider.
It also depends on race. I take poor reviews more seriously since providers in general do not want to see Black Men. For various reasons however, it is perceived we are bigger, are too rough and also don't take bullshit (this is true). If they are treating the average hobbyist poorly (who is White) they will probably treat me either the same at best, or worst. Because an unhygienic White Man and a clean well groomed Black Man are on the same level in some of their eyes. Now this is changing over time. A few of my favorites tell me the managers are finally recognize that judging based on appearance/skin tone is a waste of time and if they learn more English they can ask the appropriate questions (aside from "Have you been here before" BS) to understand if the guy is "trouble" or not. Most robberies and problems these days are caused by recent immigrants and children of immigrants, and of no particular race. But crime rates among Arab and Hispanic youth have skyrocketed in the NYC area they are now responsible probably for 50% of AMP robberies. I see their picture posted by the Precinct on the entry door in Spas in Elmhurst.
 

Levin79

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It also depends on race. I take poor reviews more seriously since providers in general do not want to see Black Men. For various reasons however, it is perceived we are bigger, are too rough and also don't take bullshit (this is true). If they are treating the average hobbyist poorly (who is White) they will probably treat me either the same at best, or worst. Because an unhygienic White Man and a clean well groomed Black Man are on the same level in some of their eyes. Now this is changing over time. A few of my favorites tell me the managers are finally recognize that judging based on appearance/skin tone is a waste of time and if they learn more English they can ask the appropriate questions (aside from "Have you been here before" BS) to understand if the guy is "trouble" or not. Most robberies and problems these days are caused by recent immigrants and children of immigrants, and of no particular race. But crime rates among Arab and Hispanic youth have skyrocketed in the NYC area they are now responsible probably for 50% of AMP robberies. I see their picture posted by the Precinct on the entry door in Spas in Elmhurst.
Yes, some providers prefer older white dudes they can trick into falling in love with them.They’re thieves and lowlifes in every race.I grew up in a mixed neighborhood (Bushwick) and treat everyone the same.However, it’s true most people think many black men not dressed in a suit or a polo shirt can be a robber(sad).I ‘m not a woman so I can’t tell if a woman can handle an 8 inch penis or greater-lol.However, most hand jobs amps size shouldn’t matter.Many of the providers that rank out a monger complain of hygiene and weight.
 

SmoothSilk007

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This is so very true a lot of quality places here in the big apple have gone deeper under ground and the mediocre places are on top of this pool so it is way more difficult to find those awesome spots since now is so much more difficult than when CL and BP where unregulated. however there is always a light at the end of the tunnel and from my experience if you can do it go for it and you will experience heaven. The place is surrounded by Caribbean warm waters and all the services are legal. This place airport code is CUR and the spot is called Rancho Alegre a 15 min car Ryde from the airport to a place I call the wonderland of mongers. The girls are all Early 20’s and the cost for each Ryde is 40 US that’s right just two bills pays for a fun time with a otherwise back in the states provider that would charge triple digits. I been to this place a few times and is worth the cost of airplane fair hotel and car rental. It operates 24hr / 7 and the talents runs on day and night shift. The place has over 100 providers. I did the math and the talent is worth it. Other two airports are POP and AUA
 
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