Massage only offer turning into all inclusive

[rog314]

Lets hear some thoughts. I have experienced several times that a massage only experience has led to a lot more after the first few visits. Typically this occurs if there is chemistry and I have found this type of experiences much more enjoyable.
I have seen this occur more often with independents or UTRs.

 

[Jnj041]

The power of the almighty dollar

 

[driverseven]

I don't return to a girl if I don't get what I want the first time. It may be a little different because I'm in the NY area and there are so many options.

 

[Cholo54]

I don't return to a girl if I don't get what I want the first time. It may be a little different because I'm in the NY area and there are so many options.

So true..
Even if she gives it up after a few visits.....how much have I spent already by then?

 

[rog314]

I don't return to a girl if I don't get what I want the first time. It may be a little different because I'm in the NY area and there are so many options.

What if she gives you what you discussed (+more) and the deal gets better once you get to know each other. Some work that way..my.02

 

[Mara_massage]

Lets hear some thoughts. I have experienced several times that a massage only experience has led to a lot more after the first few visits. Typically this occurs if there is chemistry and I have found this type of experiences much more enjoyable.
I have seen this occur more often with independents or UTRs.

It is much more enjoyable. Be a magnet, nature abhors a vacuum,exhibit the sort of "enhanced selectivity" that most "normal" women do towards Us men.
Show each other mutual respect,and everything doesn't have to "always" be about penetration. Erotic Edging multiple-ejaculatory hj's are exquisite in their own right,If performed by a sexy,compassionate Gal,Who You have chemistry with !! It is AWESOME to not know before hand what MIGHT happen and then stay safe with it,
Amazing for both You and the Gal,God Bless Ya'll ocean beach in a month !!

 

[mikemendez]

I don't return to a girl if I don't get what I want the first time. It may be a little different because I'm in the NY area and there are so many options.

I agree, yet I’m the complete opposite at times, I may not return if she gives it up to easily, this being a newly discovered R&T girl willing to provide more than standard, with some I enjoy the chase so to speak. Then again there is a particular standard R&T shop, a couple put out just fine, both have since left, the most favorite, hottest one won’t, she’ll come as close to the edge, then she inserts
“I have my bottom line”, I respect that, she asks me via text why I haven’t come to see her, I’ll end up stopping by, just not as much as one’s who accommodate further, she’s GFE except for penetration.

 

[VJLUTZ]

Lets hear some thoughts. I have experienced several times that a massage only experience has led to a lot more after the first few visits. Typically this occurs if there is chemistry and I have found this type of experiences much more enjoyable.
I have seen this occur more often with independents or UTRs.

Even if mildly disappointed, I may return more than once if there is chemistry and potential. I agree with MM, there IS something to be said for a girl not giving it up so easily. I had one provider get completely naked the first time (while giving me a HJ), but would not allow me to touch her. She was the owner and the policy was no FS in the spa. I eventually got her out of the spa and into the sack, but it took a while. Probably was not worth it, but she had me hooked. She was kind of a bitch, but also a smart girl who knew how to leverage her assets.

 

[Mara_massage]

Even if mildly disappointed, I may return more than once if there is chemistry and potential. I agree with MM, there IS something to be said for a girl not giving it up so easily. I had one provider get completely naked the first time (while giving me a HJ), but would not allow me to touch her. She was the owner and the policy was no FS in the spa. I eventually got her out of the spa and into the sack, but it took a while. Probably was not worth it, but she had me hooked. She was kind of a bitch, but also a smart girl who knew how to leverage her assets.

Interesting !

 

[WyndmoorDude]

Please help me understand - per rog314's comment above -"I have seen this occur more often with independents or UTRs. " - What is UTR an acronym for? The only thing I can find is Universal Tennis Rating, and I trust that's not it! Thank you.............

 

[topsin20]

under the radar

 

[didi88]

I agree, yet I’m the complete opposite at times, I may not return if she gives it up to easily, this being a newly discovered R&T girl willing to provide more than standard, with some I enjoy the chase so to speak. Then again there is a particular standard R&T shop, a couple put out just fine, both have since left, the most favorite, hottest one won’t, she’ll come as close to the edge, then she inserts
“I have my bottom line”

I’ve heard that line before. I respect it but it’s frustrating, especially if it’s from a hot girl. I’ve been seeing a sexy Asian girl who does a great FBSM with mutual slippery massage, grinding, FIV, and HE (for both!). But no DFK, BBBJ, or penetration. Drives me crazy and I’ve offered more $$, but she still won’t go there. I keep wondering if more visits will change things..regardless, it’s still fun trying

 

[mikemendez]

I reckon if a R&T provider is that easy or quick to get FS from, how many other guys are tapping her too? Unless she has an incredible body and the naughty is good, I’ll come see her on a frequent basis. Some former FS Spa girls now work in standard R&T shops, probably due to many FS Spas closing, they slowly but surely make some of their regulars aware more can be had.

 

[doofu77]

I reckon if a R&T provider is that easy or quick to get FS from, how many other guys are tapping her too? Unless she has an incredible body and the naughty is good, I’ll come see her on a frequent basis. Some former FS Spa girls now work in standard R&T shops, probably due to many FS Spas closing, they slowly but surely make some of their regulars aware more can be had.

Interesting. Are you saying police are targeting FS places over R&T places? Not like one is more illegal than the other.

 

[mikemendez]

Interesting. Are you saying police are targeting FS places over R&T places? Not like one is more illegal than the other.

Lol, you’ll have to ask LE about that one.

 

[mikemendez]

I don’t recall my mention of Spas closing due to LE, although some have. It’s anyone’s guess why a provider leaves one shop to work in another. Any thoughts as to why?

 

[Waterboy]

I don’t recall my mention of Spas closing due to LE, although some have. It’s anyone’s guess why a provider leaves one shop to work in another. Any thoughts as to why?

2 top providers at one shop and not enough business or a sister shop needs a headliner.
To get away from a harassing or threatening client.
Bad relationship with owner, Mamasan or other girls.

 

[Chiparlor]

"Any thoughts as to why?"
3 things.
Some providers rotate shops to equalize income set by their superiors.
Some providers are feeling the heat from some parlors and relocate to another parlor.
Some providers want more/less income and go to different parlors.

 

[mikemendez]

The number one reason I’ve heard from providers for moving to a different shop is because their former shop doesn’t have enough customers, second reason has been and I just heard this reason two weeks ago, is that their coworker was being a bitch to her, coworker is older, skinny, just okay looking, the girl that left is much younger and hot. Regular customers come in and decline coworker to try the new hot girl, customers are loyal until they see this honey, creates problems first for the coworker in the form of less earnings, so in response she fights with the beauty, it’s to be expected. There is drama, many of us will never be aware of just how much.

 

[Waterboy]

Money is obviously the root cause in both cases. Either not making enough or making too much.