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Latina sex worker killed in Soho Hotel

krideynyc

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Because an ID would have prevented this. Logic goes out of the window when your dick is involved.
Logic does go out the window when the small brain is doing the thinking. Asking for ID would not have prevented it. It's merely a level of deterrence. But let's not forget, this is now a murder investigation. Whether the perp used a real or fake ID is pretty much low on the totem pole of evidence. Fingerprints, DNA, cell phone data, and hotel surveillance videos will be more useful evidence during his trial, if/when he is caught.
 

Talo

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i would suggest not making recommendations before examining the facts and and see what could or couldn’t prevent it and based on that making recommendations
If only readers of this article examined the statements made before coming to conclusions. This article is absolutely leading people to get clicks. First off it states that the police are only conducting an investigations. Later in the article, there is circumstantial support provided in that the author states that the victim "stayed for several nights each month at the SoHo 54 Hotel in Lower Manhattan going back about a year" Lets remind everyone that in order to book several nights at a hotel that also means to booker several days. Stating "nights" sets a suggestive tone and setting in the readers mind. What if she was only using the room for the daytime, which by the way is when many providers actual provide. Many just book a hotel for working hours and then go home. How would that change everyone's impression? People are already drifting into a direction with little evidence. This is hardly a smoking gun to accuse her of being is a sex worker. It may sounds like it is to some, but I know from my experience that I use to have consultants living in the outer boroughs booking hotels in Manhattan because they could get away with it. It wasn't against there company policy, and some of these were mom and pop consulting firms looking for anything to pad the bill. Doing this helped the consultants avoid commutes and got them points on a loyalty card. I'm talking hot 20 y/o's, that could easily be mistaken for providers, but they were just looking to rack up travel and hotel points to use for personal trips. I'm not saying that's the case here or the norm but just because a single female is staying in a hotel regularly that doesn't mean she's a sex worker.

"is also believed to have been working for a man in Manhattan who she communicated with on WhatsApp." So what? What proof is this. If they had some hard evidence they would have stated something like, her WhatsApp messages described various appointments and encounter details showing her to be a sex work. They don't state anything like that. Nothing concrete is stated here. A damn cleaning person could get the same sort of text messages from their employer and no one would be able to tell the difference between them being sent to a cleaning appointment or an outcall session. Same could go for people doing makeup, hair, beauty, or therapy services and those hosting in calls. This is totally meant to lead the reader in a direction.

I'm not saying she isn't a provider but I also wouldn't be shocked if we somehow find out she was doing something completely unrelated. I'm also not suggesting she wasn't doing anything illegal. For all we know she could have been a dealer or working with one, but nothing is going to sell as well as Dead hooker found in Soho.

Worst part is I'm already seeing actual providers on twitter posting about this article and no one is suggesting that they even knew who this person was. This is a small community. When something bad happens news travel fast and people who knew the person usually spring up left and right to directly provide condolences and do not just become opportunists saying "this is why we ask for XYZ."
 

Talo

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Logic does go out the window when the small brain is doing the thinking. Asking for ID would not have prevented it. It's merely a level of deterrence. But let's not forget, this is now a murder investigation. Whether the perp used a real or fake ID is pretty much low on the totem pole of evidence. Fingerprints, DNA, cell phone data, and hotel surveillance videos will be more useful evidence during his trial, if/when he is caught.
Asking for and providing ID is not a deterrent. It's just for screeners to have a false sense of comfort. Most screeners even allow people to blur out the personal information on an ID like like the ID #, address and other details maybe other than the name. Of course a truly dedicated loon could always edit that stuff in. In truth that practice assumes reasonable people of sound mind won't want to share their IDs if there intent it to do something nefarious. You're going to have those that will provide their real info regardless and execute on dark intentions. You'll also have those that are dedicated enough and crazy enough to fake it and get in anyway. The ID details just give the provider and her associates some sort of leverage to hopefully keep reasonable clients from acting in the heat of the moment and doing something rash that would not do otherwise with out that one peace of information. The problem is this practice doesn't protect anyone from the most heinous actions.
 

krideynyc

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Asking for and providing ID is not a deterrent.
The ID details just give the provider and her associates some sort of leverage to hopefully keep reasonable clients from acting in the heat of the moment and doing something rash that would not do otherwise with out that one peace of information.
Sounds like it's being used as some level of deterrence.
The problem is this practice doesn't protect anyone from the most heinous actions.
Nothing can truly prevent this from happening. It's the rarity of something like this happening that makes everyone question all the components of this hobby.
 

krideynyc

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Yeah but not for when it really matters. There are always ladies putting guys IDs up on Twitter or in private chats. Putting them on blast for doing something. It didn't stop those guys from doing what they did.
That's more about how effective it is, not if it is a deterrence. You're not the only one to confuse the two arguments in this discussion. Same as those that argue it wouldn't have prevented this. The irony is, those that argue they won't see a provider that screens with ID, actually confirms it works as a deterrence. They will never meet, and nothing would ever happen between them.
 

Elmhurst9

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We have no idea why he killed her could be personal or sometimes a monger pays good money for mechanical service and feels ripped off and wanted his cash back.
 

Dawgs730

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For all we know, he was a longtime customer of hers. She felt comfortable. They were talking and he got jealous of another monger (or read a review of hers somewhere where it said someone got BBFS From her) and hey got jealous and lost his shit and killed her cause he felt entitled to that service or to her cause he loved her and killer her. Could be any reason. Maybe she uncharged him? Maybe he decided not to pay and she threatened to call his wife. We just need to stop speculating what could have prevented this cause no one knows. Just a sad situation overall.
 

solomon_456

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. There are always ladies putting guys IDs up on Twitter or in private chats. Putting them on blast for doing something.
I’ve seen that with emotionally unstable ladies putting out a guy’s info for totally BS reasons and then they wonder why wouldn’t we trust them with our private info? Mystery…
 

krideynyc

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For all we know, he was a longtime customer of hers. She felt comfortable. They were talking and he got jealous of another monger (or read a review of hers somewhere where it said someone got BBFS From her) and hey got jealous and lost his shit and killed her cause he felt entitled to that service or to her cause he loved her and killer her. Could be any reason. Maybe she uncharged him? Maybe he decided not to pay and she threatened to call his wife. We just need to stop speculating what could have prevented this cause no one knows.
We're not debating why she was killed, or if it could have been prevented. You're right in that there's not enough details to go on. It's just funny how one comment about providers implementing a screening process brings out those who are against that process.
 

solomon_456

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We're not debating why she was killed, or if it could have been prevented. You're right in that there's not enough details to go on. It's just funny how one comment about providers implementing a screening process brings out those who are against that process.
It’s more funny that one uses a tragedy to confirm his predetermined opinion on screening without analyzing if this would have prevented such tragedy
 

krideynyc

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It’s more funny that one uses a tragedy to confirm his predetermined opinion on screening without analyzing if this would have prevented such tragedy
Not really. I read @MongersGonnaMong statement as more about providers wanting to protect themselves, but you shifted the conversation about how that's a useless process. Even though your own priority of not seeing providers, and willingness to pay extra, when they don't ask for ID is proof it does work as a deterrence at some level. It screens out those who don't agree with their security process.
 

Talo

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That's more about how effective it is, not if it is a deterrence. You're not the only one to confuse the two arguments in this discussion. Same as those that argue it wouldn't have prevented this. The irony is, those that argue they won't see a provider that screens with ID, actually confirms it works as a deterrence. They will never meet, and nothing would ever happen between them.
So her goal is to deter legitimate clients from seeing her too?
 
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