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Indie Provider Precautions - Undercover

Unknownuser69

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Where do you think they get the scripts for the movies ?
“And undercover officer can understand the same statute engage in sex if it is in the course of gathering evidence in a continuing investigation.” What do you mean by this? Do u mean that the undercover cop can have sex with a monger to arrest them? :0
 

Alvin Lee

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“And undercover officer can understand the same statute engage in sex if it is in the course of gathering evidence in a continuing investigation.” What do you mean by this? Do u mean that the undercover cop can have sex with a monger to arrest them? :0
I am not personally stating anything - rather reiterating what I know to be true -it is common knowledge that undercover officers will do whatever they must to bring down a group that is engaging in criminal behavior.

I seriously doubt they would spend the time and money to simply sleep with a provider , step up and bust . No .

However if the undercover officer was developing a bond with a particular provider, extracting information along the way , leading to money laundering , tax evasion and human trafficking, yes he would sleep with her to gain her trust and continue to extract intelligence , Make sense?
 

rongetcha

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Exactly correct - they are interested in three things - human trafficking, kidnapping and abuse , and TAX EVASION aka money laundering. Most start with a state task force and feed up to the Feds

You left out protecting minors. If they suspected minors are involved in a particular operation unlimited resources would be used to bust it up .
 

Alvin Lee

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You left out protecting minors. If they suspected minors are involved in a particular operation unlimited resources would be used to bust it up .
Of course.Minors are at the forefront of any human trafficking investigation- it comes with a much stiffer sentence than even kidnapping.
If you are caught trafficking or engaging a minor in any form of pandering albeit voluntary , consensual or otherwise you are going to do serious felony time - Surely you have heard the expression 15 will get you 20!
 

bertie123

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the q&a worked once for me in san francisco.
it was the only time EVER in my whole life that i asked "are you law enforcement". she was nice. she said "yes, move on"

man was i lucky
 

Alvin Lee

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the q&a worked once for me in san francisco.
it was the only time EVER in my whole life that i asked "are you law enforcement". she was nice. she said "yes, move on"

man was i lucky
What were you doing in San Francisco when you asked that question - you neglect to say. Were you actually in an AMP? Hard to believe that an officer - deployed to carry out a buy & bust choose to give you “ a break”

Trust me it was not because you asked if she was a police officer. Please get that out of your head . The biggest falsehood going - and yet you see it posted all the time . Also the disclaimer about their ad being for your time and not for sex- another knee jerk .

You post naked photos and list a price it’s solicitation.
 

Alvin Lee

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There are cops who hobby, some of them are probably regulars on this forum.
I sincerely doubt that a police officer would roll the dice with their job and pension . They wouldn’t risk being recognized, or having their photo taken . You cannot walk anywhere in NYC without being recorded . I just don’t think they would risk going to an AMP. Even an Indy outcall would be too risky .
 

bertie123

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What were you doing in San Francisco when you asked that question - you neglect to say. Were you actually in an AMP? Hard to believe that an officer - deployed to carry out a buy & bust choose to give you “ a break”

Trust me it was not because you asked if she was a police officer. Please get that out of your head . The biggest falsehood going - and yet you see it posted all the time . Also the disclaimer about their ad being for your time and not for sex- another knee jerk .

You post naked photos and list a price it’s solicitation.
it was on the street...geary, 1/2 block from union sq, and this was in the 80s, and yes i asked, and yes that's EXACTLY what she said. she was caucasian, brown skinned though not terribly ethnic looking, like mediterranean/italian looking. black hair worn up.

i have that kind of innocent face i guess
 

Tt30

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I sincerely doubt that a police officer would roll the dice with their job and pension . They wouldn’t risk being recognized, or having their photo taken . You cannot walk anywhere in NYC without being recorded . I just don’t think they would risk going to an AMP. Even an Indy outcall would be too risky .
This is incredibly naive. Cops absolutely monger. Some even bully and shake down indy spots. These dudes aren’t worried about getting in trouble for it.
 

Alvin Lee

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it was on the street...geary, 1/2 block from union sq, and this was in the 80s, and yes i asked, and yes that's EXACTLY what she said. she was caucasian, brown skinned though not terribly ethnic looking, like mediterranean/italian looking. black hair worn up.

i have that kind of innocent face i guess
Did she ever show you a badge ? If not probably messing with it you
 

rongetcha

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I sincerely doubt that a police officer would roll the dice with their job and pension . They wouldn’t risk being recognized, or having their photo taken . You cannot walk anywhere in NYC without being recorded . I just don’t think they would risk going to an AMP. Even an Indy outcall would be too risky .

LE obviously knows about the existence and location of just about all high traffic AMPs in Manhattan.
So why are these places still in business. Is it your opinion they are paying off the cops ?
 

Alvin Lee

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LE obviously knows about the existence and location of just about all high traffic AMPs in Manhattan.
So why are these places still in business. Is it your opinion they are paying off the cops ?
First rule of the jungle - never direct a question to a witness unless you already know the answer

Dies that answer your question ?
 

Free Press

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I sincerely doubt that a police officer would roll the dice with their job and pension . They wouldn’t risk being recognized, or having their photo taken . You cannot walk anywhere in NYC without being recorded . I just don’t think they would risk going to an AMP. Even an Indy outcall would be too risky .

You are dead wrong there. I know a former spa owner and she was shaken down on a periodic basis and a couple of times a year, the Boys in BLue had the house and girls to themselves for an afternoon. House fee, no. Tips yes.
 

Alvin Lee

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You are dead wrong there. I know a former spa owner and she was shaken down on a periodic basis and a couple of times a year, the Boys in BLue had the house and girls to themselves for an afternoon. House fee, no. Tips yes.
Not a matter of right or wrong - there are bad seeds in every profession however it is an aberration certainly not the norm .
 
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