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vman1970

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I disagree. The best experiences I ever had were with indies that were on the cheap side. They tended to be younger (like early to late 20s) or older (45+). All types of ethnicities too. This was a time (2010s) when BP was still up, and girls were flocking to this hotspot (Philly/SJ) from all over the country.
i'm not sure that's still the case, although after we get through this current mess it may be again as SWers look to reestablish their business.
 

TheRiceGuy

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Can’t compare 2010 to 2020. Also I did the research, and I try based on value comparison. For me, NYC Amps and CP is the gold standard for $300 and under. Why would I desire to over pay an indie when I don’t need to. At the end of the day, the value isn’t the same, in general. There are still some indies I’ve yet to see that look really promising
 

vman1970

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Can’t compare 2010 to 2020. Also I did the research, and I try based on value comparison. For me, NYC Amps and CP is the gold standard for $300 and under. Why would I desire to over pay an indie when I don’t need to. At the end of the day, the value isn’t the same, in general. There are still some indies I’ve yet to see that look really promising
Generally a good indie not only satisfys your sexual needs, she can connect with you on a social and emotional level. I've paid upwards of $1000 for a couple hours with some really fine ladies who truly make the experience great and have much more of a connection which can and should make the experience hotter and better. If all you really need is a sexual release that I would pay anything more that a good AMP.
 

TheRiceGuy

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Generally a good indie not only satisfys your sexual needs, she can connect with you on a social and emotional level. I've paid upwards of $1000 for a couple hours with some really fine ladies who truly make the experience great and have much more of a connection which can and should make the experience hotter and better. If all you really need is a sexual release that I would pay anything more that a good AMP.
Yea I heard what you’re saying, I also realize I probably connect better with amp providers than others because I speak the language
 

easy2please

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You can't even compare 2020 to 2020, it's going to be pre and post Covid...the future landscape may look a bit different. Since this is an AMP board and the OP asked about indies, does anyone think some AMP providers may go the apartment route? I'm thinking similar to Candy who set up shop in south philly in 2015-16. Fosta regs already increased the risk for brick & mortar AMPs, with the current pandemic and economic meltdown many of them may disappear completely.

I also hope many Asian providers don't return to their home countries due to this. The couple of providers I keep in touch with are riding this out at home in NYC. Both are concerned about recent attacks on Asians in US, as if the virus wasn't enough they also have to worry about racist thugs.

There may also be an influx of American women providing, between unemployed waitresses and college students with their allowance cut, the SB route may be the way to go. I've never really gone to see American women in the 5-6 years I've been doing this. As others have stated too many skanks and junkies at my price point. I found Asians much more reliable, cleaner and pleasant to spend time with - so I've stuck with what works for me. But if the landscape changes I may have to as well
 

Enorriton

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Ah CL and BP before being overrun with spam and bots. Haven’t come across any quality indies in a while.
Anyone remember that bag full of crazy know as Mercedes?
 

Niceguy0388

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You can't even compare 2020 to 2020, it's going to be pre and post Covid...the future landscape may look a bit different. Since this is an AMP board and the OP asked about indies, does anyone think some AMP providers may go the apartment route? I'm thinking similar to Candy who set up shop in south philly in 2015-16. Fosta regs already increased the risk for brick & mortar AMPs, with the current pandemic and economic meltdown many of them may disappear completely.

I also hope many Asian providers don't return to their home countries due to this. The couple of providers I keep in touch with are riding this out at home in NYC. Both are concerned about recent attacks on Asians in US, as if the virus wasn't enough they also have to worry about racist thugs.

There may also be an influx of American women providing, between unemployed waitresses and college students with their allowance cut, the SB route may be the way to go. I've never really gone to see American women in the 5-6 years I've been doing this. As others have stated too many skanks and junkies at my price point. I found Asians much more reliable, cleaner and pleasant to spend time with - so I've stuck with what works for me. But if the landscape changes I may have to as well
I hope some of these unemployed office girls/watress etc starts providing!! :):)
 

vman1970

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I hope some of these unemployed office girls/watress etc starts providing!! :):)
I know all ladies do this for the money but the good ones make you feel like they aren't. If we come out of this and there are all kinds of ladies doing this because they need the cash your really gonna have to be careful and do your due diligence to find the ones they don't make you feel like a $ as soon as you walk in the door.
 

kantuchdis

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Asian, European and Latin women have economic and security incentives to escort/massage in America. American women not as much. Every foreign country is poorer than America and more difficult to make money. Every reasonably decent looking woman from a foreign country can figure out a temp visa, how to book a hotel room in a major city, how to post an ad on CityX, EROS, etc. America is the safest country in the world, and she is unlikely to bump into her uncle or brother in law.

American women will never ever ever starve. The US government guarantees everyone will get a pay check, healthcare, food. This is a disincentive to resort to hooking as a way to make ends meet. That said, do some American ladies escort? Yes! For many of the same reasons as the foreign women, just far less of them.

I am amazed how many hotel rooms are booked in CC, Plymouth, KOP with $400/hr women answering texts in bad English. They cash in and travel home to their villages with a suitcase full of $$$$$.
 

Werty11

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Asian, European and Latin women have economic and security incentives to escort/massage in America. American women not as much. Every foreign country is poorer than America and more difficult to make money. Every reasonably decent looking woman from a foreign country can figure out a temp visa, how to book a hotel room in a major city, how to post an ad on CityX, EROS, etc. America is the safest country in the world, and she is unlikely to bump into her uncle or brother in law.

American women will never ever ever starve. The US government guarantees everyone will get a pay check, healthcare, food. This is a disincentive to resort to hooking as a way to make ends meet. That said, do some American ladies escort? Yes! For many of the same reasons as the foreign women, just far less of them.

I am amazed how many hotel rooms are booked in CC, Plymouth, KOP with $400/hr women answering texts in bad English. They cash in and travel home to their villages with a suitcase full of $$$$$.

To be fair... american women escort because money - even in "low price segment" - are about 10x what minimum wage is, work is not as hard as cleaning/restocking shelves- and its tax free.

Min wage=15$/hour.

Escorting =160$/hour for lowest segment.

And let's be honest a lot of american providers at lower segment are not even trying to service.

5 min hand/blowjpb to get you hard and 5-10 min fuck. Beat the hell working at Walmart for 10 hours.

What we need it legalization of prostitution in this country...... but than again, 30% of American ladies(obese population) would never find a husband.
 

vman1970

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To be fair... american women escort because money - even in "low price segment" - are about 10x what minimum wage is, work is not as hard as cleaning/restocking shelves- and its tax free.

Min wage=15$/hour.

Escorting =160$/hour for lowest segment.

And let's be honest a lot of american providers at lower segment are not even trying to service.

5 min hand/blowjpb to get you hard and 5-10 min fuck. Beat the hell working at Walmart for 10 hours.

What we need it legalization of prostitution in this country...... but than again, 30% of American ladies(obese population) would never find a husband.
Wait TaxFree?? They don't report taxes? No way!
If prostitution became legal my concern would be that prices would increase.
 

Werty11

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Wait TaxFree?? They don't report taxes? No way!
If prostitution became legal my concern would be that prices would increase.

They may. Or they might be cheaper - look at Germany or Canada. Average there about 200/hour andnotfor bottom of the barrel.

More competition is good.
 

findinit

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A lot of it comes back to what poverty means in the US vs poverty in a country like Canada. In the US, an American FS provider in the 160-250 range is very likely to be dealing with literacy issues, stints of homelessness, debt, substance abuse, poor nutrition, incarceration, sexual/domestic abuse. All of those issues are on top of needing cash. And we're not even talking about the regulatory environment around sex work, and all the risks that come with operating an illegal business. In Canada, a provider in the same price tier just needs or wants some cash. Maybe she's dealing with 1 or 2 of those issues, but not all of them stacked together. That translates to a different service level and experience for them and for us. That's my general observation, and I'm not counting what happens in the sugaring market.
 

69chuck

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My personal experience has been about the Same as an average MLB batting average .a couple hits or so out of ten. the extreme pleasure of the few hits make me take a chance once in awhile. ...,, still remember the young beautiful submissive Mexican girl I saw last year.......GOD she was HOT!!
Hope she was at least 18.......
 

Cassidy69

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I hope some of these unemployed office girls/watress etc starts providing!! :):)
I might know one or two if you don’t mind newbies. Damage for me was 2.5 for about 2 hrs will do Greek for 5. so I hear but can’t vouch for that. Nice pussy but smokes cigs and weed chick was cool but nervous pm me if u want me to see if I can give out her contact I know it was a first time thing with me but she was needing the cash. broke up with bf ir some shit didng really ask didn’t really care I just wanted some clean pussy she smelled amazing Squirter like a motherfucker prob squirted 8-10 times bed soaked my face chest hair it was a good time
I actuallly ate this chicks pussy I’m a hotel to watch her squirt for more than half the session. screamer too.
if she does let me give info I’ll put review up with more details
 
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