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BIGBOB62

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I think you both have not found the right girl from the beginning. I see my favorite girls often and always tip the same amount. I don't play mind game with them, and each encounter gets more passionate than the previous session. One has to treat each session with the same vigor as you expect from them. The more you satisfy them the better they will return the favor. Keep experimenting with new ways of pleasing them and they will do the same. I can't wait for my next visit.
I used to play it like you with all girls, but I evolved. ;)
1. Some girls are into playing it like a relationship. Other girls are much more interested in getting the most money each time. For these girls, knowing what things they can do to get more of your money, gives me better sex. period. I've seen it over and over. If she knows that she's going to get an extra 20 or 40 and all she has to do a little extra rimming, or make sure you blow on her face, she'll deliver every time. if you havent communicated that its much more what shes in the mood to do. SHe's not my girlfriend, I'm paying.
2. There are other girls that take a long term view, and really enjoy your company, and those girls are certainly keepers. I have a couple of them where the relationship is still going on and is over 5 years long, one about 10. Those are different.
3. I do a lot of 4 hands. like 1-2 a week. that's an exponential increase in the factors you have to consider in motivation, tipping and outcomes. I bring this up because thats where i first started having to do this experimentation with differentiating tips, and delivering direct messages about my happiness with her performance.
 

Wayne1250

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Big Bob, I failed to mention that my same tip everytime Is an up grade over their standard tip. This is for the upgrade service they give me. And actually great sex, that I cannot even publish on this review site.

This method of becoming an upgraded repeat customer has worked over and over for the past 7 years.
 

BIGBOB62

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Big Bob, I failed to mention that my same tip everytime Is an up grade over their standard tip. This is for the upgrade service they give me. And actually great sex, that I cannot even publish on this review site.

This method of becoming an upgraded repeat customer has worked over and over for the past 7 years.
the lowest possible tip I give is standard rates, and I haven’t done that in 5 years. I’m talking about tipping 40 over standard up to up 140 over standard usually. And then fluctuating in there as the services rendered fluctuate. It’s worked for me for 10 years or so now. There’s other guys here who say they never tip more than standard. And one guy who’s claimed he never tips and gets great service.
Whatever works for you is what you should do.
I’m pretty convinced my way works for keeping girls focused on good service
 

Wayne1250

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We are talking about the same approach, but I just don't change the upgraded tip, unless I up it again and then keep it at that level. But the service does get better the longer you are a repeat customer.

I think we are splitting hairs, the important thing is, the better you treat them (money and respect), the better they will treat you.
 

Doubleyellow

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In 39 short posts you have enough juice here to field a PhD thesis on the mindset of the working KGirl.
I agree most don’t have time for mind fuckery, unless they’re the fucker and you’re the fuckee. I don’t make many different mistakes. My Aspergers demands repetition so in my several trials at relationships in this environment I’ve found that they hold the vast majority of us in contempt, at the very least.
It is moreso fodder for a thesis into the mindset of guys who are trying to guess what the mindset is of a masseuse they pay to do things to them. The bias in knowing what is really true about her preferences is the money.

If you really want her specific opinion of you, or how much she likes seeing naked guys day in and day out, ask her if she wouldn't mind moving to free sessions. I'm pretty sure she will be fairly decisive in her response.
 

x174

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If you really want her specific opinion of you, or how much she likes seeing naked guys day in and day out, ask her if she wouldn't mind moving to free sessions. I'm pretty sure she will be fairly decisive in her response.
Maybe, but you have to remember that they can't work for free in the spa, and that even if they wanted to meet you for free outside, a lot of them don't have the freedom.
My ATF might well go out with me and might do it for free, but in the spa she has to work. And spa and home are the only places she goes.
And it wouldn't be fair of me to expect her to be with me without getting a tip since she could be working with another customer who WOULD tip her.
That's actually making HER pay to be with ME, and that's never going to happen.
 

BIGBOB62

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Maybe, but you have to remember that they can't work for free in the spa, and that even if they wanted to meet you for free outside, a lot of them don't have the freedom.
My ATF might well go out with me and might do it for free, but in the spa she has to work. And spa and home are the only places she goes.
And it wouldn't be fair of me to expect her to be with me without getting a tip since she could be working with another customer who WOULD tip her.
That's actually making HER pay to be with ME, and that's never going to happen.
A lot of them can’t meet you outside, but some of them do. And for the most part the sex has been free outside the spa with a couple notable shopping trips and a multi-girl casino trip being outliers.

It’s an off topic discussion, but my key to getting girls out of the shop has always been smoozing the mms, and getting her on your side.
 

oldhorndog53

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Has anyone else noticed that the OP seems to be MIA from his own thread. Clicked twice on his avatar and got the message, “This user’s profile is not available.” Banned?
 

oldhorndog53

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I think the OP has some privacy settings on so you can't see his profile, old reviews and posts, or send him private messages.
You’re partially correct - you can’t send him PMs. But if you enter his handle into the member field of “Search”, you’ll be able to read all his reviews and posts. It even works with the permanently banned WaterXxx’s reviews and posts.
 

Doubleyellow

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Maybe, but you have to remember that they can't work for free in the spa, and that even if they wanted to meet you for free outside, a lot of them don't have the freedom.
My ATF might well go out with me and might do it for free, but in the spa she has to work. And spa and home are the only places she goes.
And it wouldn't be fair of me to expect her to be with me without getting a tip since she could be working with another customer who WOULD tip her.
That's actually making HER pay to be with ME, and that's never going to happen.

You missed my point, but everything you say is typically true.

I take it you have never visited a place where the house fee was waived and the masseuse gave back your tip?
 

x174

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You missed my point, but everything you say is typically true.

I take it you have never visited a place where the house fee was waived and the masseuse gave back your tip?
Nope, but I'm sure it happens. Out here in the Philly burbs I usually only see the masseuse, so there's nobody to waive fees.
I got your point, but just because they don't do it for free doesn't necessarily mean they wouldn't in other circumstances. That's all I'm saying.
 
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