For older guys..

[Srhsrh]

You mean the LP records? Oh, that was the other thread.
I still have problems sometimes with condoms and sensitivity, I just ask to finish in her mouth when that happens

 

[chunfun]

Not If you’re talking about providers and SBs,

Not to get in one of these flame wars...
But I've had providers fly with me (and fly me), to places and fuck me the whole time, for free.
Just last week, a SB gave me a $500 watch for my birthday.
She put it on layaway, so I actually paid for it, but it was HER money after I gave it.

To paraphrase a wise man...
"Women are multipliers.
Give 'em groceries, they'll cook you a meal,
Give 'em seed, they'll make you a family,
Give 'em a house, they'll make you a home!"

Doesn't take much, just a decent attitude. I had 4 older sisters, best education EVER!
Saw what their boyfriends and men did, and did the total fucking opposite...

 

[Koujiao]

I doubt he would, and I wouldn't take it if he offered.

But you distort the comparison. "Would he rotate my tires for free, or give me a free car wash after an oil change?" would be a better comparison.[/QUOTE]

Distortion is the essence of touching and exploring the edges. If it makes you happier, maybe a free rim job? If you have split rims, that is.

 

[Koujiao]

If the mechanic was a woman, she might. Civvie women often trade sex for favors, they just don't advertise it. I had a friend of mine who rented a spare room in his house. When he rented it to a hottie, within 4 months she was fucking him in lieu of paying the rent. I had someone else tell that a RE agent fucked them to help close a sale. The MeToo# movement aside, women routinely fuck their bosses. In the military, apparently there is a LOT of fucking. Some average (6 or below) looking girls go in and, for the first time in their lives, they are in remote, isolated locations surrounded by men who pay them a lot of attention. And they responds accordingly, sometimes in very outrageous ways. I've heard enough stories from vets that its hard to dismiss it as simply BS.

My own personal rule is NEVER to fuck someone in my professional orbit, either at my company or a client. I do get the occasional nibble, but always pass. No good can come of it. I've seen it happen and, before too long, EVERYONE knows and it always ends badly. It's just not worth it.

I love women, but one reason why they're often a step below men professionally is that they often rely on sex or sex appeal to get what they want. I'm convinced that it's so intrinsic to their nature that many may not even realize it when they're doing it.

World popultion is around 7.7 billion and growing at slightly over 1% / 82 million a year. Lots of fucking going on.

In my career and profession, i did not see women 'often' use sex or sexuality as a means to advance, but admit that I don't know your definition of 'often', or what profession you are in. In mine, it was so results oriented, and easily measured, sexual favors didn't improve results, women spent time on the metrics / goals they set, not the men they worked with.

Factor in that most men were similar to me, maybe that is why.....

 

[TGBeldin]

It happens a lot. Especially in areas where the quality of work is very subjective.

Not advocating it or condemning it because too often the people in charge--men and women--make it clear that sexual favors are an expected way to stand out for the plum assignments that can lead to promotion. Not for the promotion directly, but 6 to 18 months prior. That way there is plausible deniability that the promotion was in exchange for sex.

 

[TGBeldin]

Not to get in one of these flame wars...
But I've had providers fly with me (and fly me), to places and fuck me the whole time, for free.
Just last week, a SB gave me a $500 watch for my birthday.
She put it on layaway, so I actually paid for it, but it was HER money after I gave it.

To paraphrase a wise man...
"Women are multipliers.
Give 'em groceries, they'll cook you a meal,
Give 'em seed, they'll make you a family,
Give 'em a house, they'll make you a home!"

Doesn't take much, just a decent attitude. I had 4 older sisters, best education EVER!
Saw what their boyfriends and men did, and did the total fucking opposite...

Be careful. Some on here will get jealous and shout that you are delusional.

 

[Uniquelyme]

Be careful. Some on here will get jealous and shout that you are delusional.

Real Men don't hate they congratulate

 

[Koujiao]

It happens a lot. Especially in areas where the quality of work is very subjective.

Not advocating it or condemning it because too often the people in charge--men and women--make it clear that sexual favors are an expected way to stand out for the plum assignments that can lead to promotion. Not for the promotion directly, but 6 to 18 months prior. That way there is plausible deniability that the promotion was in exchange for sex.

This is an easy one to decide on - using your power over another person to make or break their career, as a means to have having them give you sex is in my book, reprehensible, abusive, repulsive, we can pick the word. It is wrong.

Unless they suggested the idea. Then I would fire the person.

 

[TGBeldin]

This is an easy one to decide on - using your power over another person to make or break their career, as a means to have having them give you sex is in my book, reprehensible, abusive, repulsive, we can pick the word. It is wrong.

Unless they suggested the idea. Then I would fire the person.

I agree. I am not advocating, just saying it happens.

When you look like a bookkeeper, and you are a person who is not part of an organization, but an outsider like a waiter or a gardener, it is amazing how much you see, over hear, or are actually confided in. You are seen as "safe".

 

[KittyHawk]

One thing I wanted to follow up on here, was side effects to viagra. A big reason why I got into shape was being dependent on viagra (which worked), but having terrible side effects. I’d have blurred vision, color perception differences, and ridiculous heartburn and headaches after. Every single time. Known side effects. I tried the other two with similar issues. Does anyone else experience these? Sometimes I wouldn’t even be out of the spa before they started. My doctor always told me, I’d not need viagra if I got into shape. And she was right. But just thinking the way you guys take it recreationally, it must not cause you other issues, right? I guess I’d take it if I needed to for sex, but I’d sure never take it again for fun. The vision loss was particularly scary. Who knows what long term effects it has? I’m not believing our FDA really protects us, given the way they killed off everyone with otc opioids..... No concerns?

I started with 100 and dropped to 50. I get a very minor headache and stuffy nose but I've always had a high tolerance for drugs. I do worry about
the vision side effects since I'm already 20/70 in one eye, thanks to glaucoma. The only thing I can think of that's worse than blindness is drooping
in the middle of a session.

 

[Baiter]

I've got to agree with both TGBeldin amd didi88some are really about their money while others respond better to good treatment. I have the unicorn who everyone on 40th road recognized as my girl or as me being her man,client or property. She would be walking with a client and give him to another girl to take me. I pay for an 1/2 hour but sometimes the monster is hungry and takes an hour. She doesn't charge me extra, But, if I decide to take someone else ....which is rare I'll let her know and slide her a $20. Respect and a $ go a long way. I like to think it's the respect that drives our Dynamics....but, I could be wrong. lol

 

[chunfun]

I will add that I've met some seriously f'd up SB's. Totally out for a buck, with eternal sad stories about sick moms, kids, etc. Just say no!

 

[driverseven]

One thing I wanted to follow up on here, was side effects to viagra. A big reason why I got into shape was being dependent on viagra (which worked), but having terrible side effects. I’d have blurred vision, color perception differences, and ridiculous heartburn and headaches after. Every single time. Known side effects. I tried the other two with similar issues. Does anyone else experience these? Sometimes I wouldn’t even be out of the spa before they started. My doctor always told me, I’d not need viagra if I got into shape. And she was right. But just thinking the way you guys take it recreationally, it must not cause you other issues, right? I guess I’d take it if I needed to for sex, but I’d sure never take it again for fun. The vision loss was particularly scary. Who knows what long term effects it has? I’m not believing our FDA really protects us, given the way they killed off everyone with otc opioids..... No concerns?

I have had no negative side effects. I am taking the smallest dose possible of Sildenafil which is 20 mg. I know it comes in 20, 50 and 100 mg. If you have a larger dose, maybe you could try cutting it in half or quarters -- that is, if you are up for giving it another try.

When I first started, I got a minor stuffy nose but I started to make sure I was drinking enough water and that disappeared. Like many over 60 guys, I would normally be cutting back on the water intake before a visit to avoid excessive bathroom trips, but with the Sildenafil, I had to find a new balance around the water intake.

I'm sure I'd be worried if I had vision problems and I doubt it is anything permanent. The way the drug works is to open up blood vessels and it is out of your system after around 12 hours. So nothing should be permanent. If you are taking other medications, maybe there is an interaction? I am not taking any other pills other than vitamins.

 

[Srhsrh]

Well I don’t take viagra right now, but when I did, smaller doses weren’t working as well. Water was the first thing I tried, and it helped with heartburn some but not the vision.
I was taking a cornucopia of pills back then, as a diabetic, with high blood pressure. She worked out schedules for me for adjusting dosage and times around taking viagra, which helped some with lower dosages working, but not the main complaints. She told me the vision damage thing could become permanent, they really haven’t studied it enough.

 

[driverseven]

Well I don’t take viagra right now, but when I did, smaller doses weren’t working as well. Water was the first thing I tried, and it helped with heartburn some but not the vision.
I was taking a cornucopia of pills back then, as a diabetic, with high blood pressure. She worked out schedules for me for adjusting dosage and times around taking viagra, which helped some with lower dosages working, but not the main complaints. She told me the vision damage thing could become permanent, they really haven’t studied it enough.

Oh yeah, if you were taking diabetes meds then that's a different story. Diabetes can damage your eyesight too so you don't need to add Viagra or sildenafil to the mix. I have a tendency toward diabetes so I am definitely sensitive to the issue.

 

[Srhsrh]

It’s bad stuff, diabetes. Do whatever you can to avoid it. I’m not diabetic now, but was for 20 years. Insulin is a real disaster, and it’s very hard to get out of it, once you get to taking it. I have to strictly watch every single thing I eat, every day. But I’m a lot better off now. Still, I don’t know what I’d do if I couldn’t get erect. Pretty sure I’d be back taking viagra again. But I’m surprised nobody has seen the side effects I had. It was direct relationship to taking V, and would start 2 hours after taking it.

 

[Baiter]

For all my E.D people and guys with weak erections.

I say try to avoid the medicines and go natural. The side effects are terrible as well as the damage to the organs from usage of these products.
Erections depend on
1) testosterone levels which can be heightened through exercise
2) good blood flow. clogged veins come from cholesterol blockages in the veins. The human body is not designed to digest fats from meats. they get in the veins and cloog up you blood flow. you can use Omega 3s which act as vasodialators and a mix of 3 common spices. ( 2ts cinnamon, 1ts ginger,1ts and 1ts cayanne pepper boil as a tea.) drink this 2x - 3x daily.) with in 3 days you'll start seeing that morning erection come back stronger. Avoid meats, fatty and fried foods.
3) Blood oxygen which is kidney and liver related. Iron supplements and a green clean diet help with increasing oxygen levels to the blood.
My 70 year old friend used the herbs alone and saw rapid results. but I recommend all 3 methods for best results. Good luck. Happy and safe mongering!

 

[Baiter]

Hit me back after a week of trying the herb tea mix and let me know how effective it was for you.

 

[haaretz]

For all my E.D people and guys with weak erections.

I say try to avoid the medicines and go natural. The side effects are terrible as well as the damage to the organs from usage of these products.
Erections depend on
1) testosterone levels which can be heightened through exercise
2) good blood flow. clogged veins come from cholesterol blockages in the veins. The human body is not designed to digest fats from meats. they get in the veins and cloog up you blood flow. you can use Omega 3s which act as vasodialators and a mix of 3 common spices. ( 2ts cinnamon, 1ts ginger,1ts and 1ts cayanne pepper boil as a tea.) drink this 2x - 3x daily.) with in 3 days you'll start seeing that morning erection come back stronger. Avoid meats, fatty and fried foods.
3) Blood oxygen which is kidney and liver related. Iron supplements and a green clean diet help with increasing oxygen levels to the blood.
My 70 year old friend used the herbs alone and saw rapid results. but I recommend all 3 methods for best results. Good luck. Happy and safe mongering!

Lifelong issue. I did/do a lot of those supplements and lifestyle changes.

Before viagra I would take yohimbe and DHEA. Very strong, but the side effects were not worth it.
Viagra has side effects but overall much milder. $5 copay from my HMO for 3 month supply---far cheaper.

But I do understand and appreciate the advice, I found a way to beat my limp dick.